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iPhone XS Hands On: XS Max Feels 'Shockingly' Light, Killer Features are Depth of Field Slider in Photos and Dual SIM

ReneR said:
yeah, and did I get this right that China gets real dual SIM, and the rest of the world get's a 1 physical SIM and one eSIM?, … WTF! Now we need to import it form China?
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eSIM is better, China carriers just refuse to allow it. If all carriers supported eSIM Apple might be able to actually roll out their (now old) MVNO system allowing the software to manage the carrier activation on the fly based on location, tower congestion, signal strength, etc.

I'm actually curious if the SIM-Free version will be able to activate service just using the eSIM rather than needing to use a nano-SIM for a "Primary" service. The wording on the site seems to indicate it will but it's not clear.

EDIT: Looks like it will support using just the eSIM for supported carriers once the update for enabling eSIM is live.

One of your cellular plans uses a nano-SIM and the other (or others) uses an eSIM. If you don't have a nano-SIM and your carrier supports it, an eSIM can serve as your only cellular plan. The eSIM provided by your carrier is stored digitally in your iPhone.
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Baymowe335 said:
And the iPhone 4 had a tiny 3.5" screen...

The question is, who cares about ppi? Does the screen look good? iPhone 8 had a 326 ppi and it looked great. At some point, your eyes can't see the difference at a normal distance anyway.

If you want spec bragging rights, get an Android.
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Or get an XS since for some reason Apple is putting 458 PPI displays on them. Is Apple promoting a useless spec bump for bragging rights or could it be that the difference between 326 PPI and 458 PPI is indeed noticeable? I do wish they had at least kept the 401 PPI from the plus models.
 
dan9700 said:
Why not put batt % number on bigger display
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that would make too much sense for apple.

like instead of taking advantage of the bigger display by allowing more icons in a row, they just make the icons even bigger lol.
 
cliffster82 said:
Will the depth of field slider be available on the iPhone X? Anyone figure that out? Does it only work on new A12 phones? I'm thinking about the Xr, but if the original X gets this feature via an update, I can just get the X now. Would prefer a slightly smaller phone anyway.

EDIT: Confirmed on Apple, no depth of field for iPhone X, and no Smart HDR either. Xr has both. Well then...
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Just downloaded the focos app, looks good tbh not sure how different depth of field slider is on the Xs
 
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Peperino said:
It sounds like you are a complete useless that has nothing to do but to criticize people who have a valid point. How is it that an iPhone cost more than a computer and almost twice as an iPad?
Tim Cook greed is to rip of customer to the Max (like the iPhone). If not see the crappy overpriced, underperforming Macbook so called "Pro" which is a complete failure.

Look how many people are complaining about the prices and how many likes I got, and look how many likes you get...I guess more people agree with me than with you...

If someone needs to go back to school and learn how to type and get a life is you.
In the meantime, Cook is laughing all the way to the bank...
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Even thou I can afford to change iPhone each year to new model without a problem (and I did), now I simply refuse to. Xs Max 512GB price is just a test. If customers will pass the test iphone XV most expensive variant will be 1999$.
 
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Peperino said:
Tim Cook lost it way as well as Apple. It truly shows with the current prices, that the only thing he cares is about performing for the investors and charge outrageous prices rather than for users that actually purchase the Apple products. You can see all along the Apple line up with the iMac Pro, and the Macbook Pro both ridiculously expensive.
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Clearly you know nothing about Tim Cook or Apple. Financial success is a side-effect, not a driver of Apple success and has been that way for many years. If you actually do objective analysis you will find that products like the iMac Pro and MacBook Pro as in fact very competitively priced. You do need to pay attention to the details of the technology employed though. Perhaps you missed that bit.
 
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78Bandit said:
Or get an XS since for some reason Apple is putting 458 PPI displays on them. Is Apple promoting a useless spec bump for bragging rights?
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To be honest, I liked the OLED screen (at the time) for the size, blacks and overall color more than the resolution. I probably couldn't tell the difference unless they were side by side, like most people. My other options were the 8 and 8 Plus...no XR.

When I got the X, I wanted the larger screen, FaceID, better cameras, and edge to edge display. If there were another option similar t the X design (no home button, FaceID, etc), I might have actually considered the Xr.

Yes, there are limits to the human eye on a screen that small at a normal distance. I'm not saying it looks no better, I'm just saying the incremental improvement isn't huge and the "lower" version isn't garbage just because it's 326ppi. It's plenty good, even in 2018.
 
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Are those the new Apple Pencils on display? :p
 
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iOS has become so boring i dont see the need to update from my iPhone 7 Plus at all besides maybe the bigger screen. you always end up going to the same apps doing the exact same things you have been doing for the last few years so really what is even the point.

i mean there isnt even anything software wise that makes the Max stand out. no pen support, not even freaking battery percentage in the status bar! thats just lazy
 
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This will sell due to the larger screen alone. Anyone want to start taking bets on next quarter’s sales figures?
 
Here's a quick list of the new features/changes for the iPhone XS:
- Larger Max model
- Dual sim
- Gold color
- 512GB storage

As far as an 'S' version, there doesn't seem to be any particular killer new feature other than the larger Max model. Then again, the iPhone 7 didn't have much over the 6S. However, the 6S did have several new features such as Live Photos, 2nd gen Touch ID, and 3D Touch.

I would say that the iPhone Xr seems more interesting. If I was in the market for a new phone, I'd probably go for the Xr since it adopts the same form factor, has more color options, has the same A12 chip as the XS, and as $250 cheaper than the starting iPhone XS.
 
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Why is no one talking about the second gen Face ID?

Can it not unlock with the phone sideways?

How much faster is it at unlocking the phone?
 
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"Shockingly light"? It's 10.6% heavier than a 7+.

I don't ask much from product upgrades. For every product I care about, there are certain parameters which must not worsen, and at least one must improve. That is an upgrade. It has been YEARS since, by this definition, Apple has upgraded a product I use.

Today's fail: iPhone Xs Max is thicker, heavier, and has less battery than my 7+. The other new iPhones all have narrower screens. WHY??? ‍
 
I love this site.
Killer feature is depth of field slider.
Oh man, I think their idea of a killer feature and mine differ greatly.
 
anubis1980 said:
Just downloaded the focos app, looks good tbh not sure how different depth of field slider is on the Xs
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I see that focos is free. What’s the catch? Ads? Pay for extra features? Also seems like the only real update this year is a processor. The X sure is looking like a good option for the money...
 
It's obvious Apple are tying to hide the notch.
Their soap bubble planet wallpapers they are using in all these shots, just to happen to miss the notch.

Which I'd say is good news, as that mean, they are a bit embarrassed about it, trying to hide it, which must mean, they are focused on reducing it's size in the future. :)
[doublepost=1536790773][/doublepost]I know they would never do it in a million years, but when he was going on and on and ON about the amazing screens.
I was almost wanting him to say:

"And thanks to our great friends at Samsung who have build this amazing screen for us at Apple" ;)
 
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My iPhone 6 feels “shockingly” light compared to my X, too.

iPhones have been gradually bulking up over the past few iterations. Much of the extra weight has gone into the bigger battery and screen, but an aluminium case is much lighter than a glass case.
 
I did the math. I have the iPhone X 256GB. $47.50 a month. 256GB is more than I thought I needed for 4K vlog videos but they’re short videos, say 5 minutes. And they’re deleted locally after posting. The Xs Max is $45 a month for the 64GB. So I’m probably in the minority who could upgrade and not pay more. Just sales tax up front.
[doublepost=1536791984][/doublepost]Something is missing with this S upgrade....

iOS 12.1 will be telling.
 
cliffster82 said:
I see that focos is free. What’s the catch? Ads? Pay for extra features? Also seems like the only real update this year is a processor. The X sure is looking like a good option for the money...
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Yep pay for extra features from what I can see. Works ok for adjusting depth of field though
 
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