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iPhone XS Max and Apple Watch Series 4 Shipping Estimates Begin Slipping

OldSchoolMacGuy said:
This will be a crazy quarter for Apple. The demand for these two phones has been huge and they're not even the big sellers. When the XR goes on sale, that'll be the big one.

We also need to remember that most of their sales do NOT come on release day. They happen in the coming months from people that wander into an Apple Store or other outlet and buy them. Most don't line up to buy on release day like many of us did last night.
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I totally agree that the XR is the phone. I'm getting the XS, but I'm in a very good financial position right now (and I can hand down my X to a family member). But the XR will outsell both the XS combined.

But launch day is a huge sale day. I think when Apple used to release the sales numbers over the launch weekend, it was something like the equivalent of more than two normal months of sales.
 
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I was sitting on the Apple Store app the second it went live. Finished my order within 1 minute and got an October 5th through 12th delivery window. It could not accept me picking it up with a scheduled time at my local Apple store for some reason. Does this seem normal? Could it be because I went with the Max 512gb? That's the only reason I can think of. That maybe there will be fewer of those at launch so they went instantly. Pretty ticked off about the 3 week wait when I know I was through the whole process quick. FYI: Boss woke up an hour after the pre-order started and ordered the 256gb Max and was given September 29 ... I'm just really confused and to I know the 512gb is overkill but for the very first time in my life I'm able to say the heck with it and decided to go all out for once and also preorder for the first time.

Any insight by pre-order pros would be appreciated.
 
recoil80 said:
Xs is 40€ cheaper in Germany than in Italy, but it doesn't really make a difference when you're spending more than 1000€
I think people from the US don't know how cheaper the iPhone is for them, we're talking about $300 (and even more if you live in a state with low taxes) for the Xs and $400 for the Max.
And I guess our average income is lower too. Good for you guys from the US, and Apple is doing great so doesn't need to cut prices on the EU, but they can't expect to sell as many iPhones as they did 4 years ago with iPhone 6 here, they're really too expensive. I guess it is the same in other countries in the world.
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You have to look at the bigger picture. Sure, goods in the US may cost less than the same goods in Europe/elsewhere, but we pay for other things that you may not have to. For instance, healthcare is not cheap in the US. Going to University costs a ton in the US. Overall, I would imagine that the standard of living in the US is similar to the other European countries.

You can't just do a currency conversion and compare. Too many other factors.
 
[Happily sporting my EOL'ed SE, but curious nevertheless on a $999 "upgrade" to Xs 64GB, unlocked, either white or space grey, cash-and-carry.]

So checked Apple "neighborhood" stores for constrained deliveries at 0845 EST on this Friday:
Ample stock on every store in the National Capital Region.
Slipping deliveries? No slipping whatsoever.
Pickup on Sept. 21.

[Will keep sporting my EOL'ed SE and will ride the greed wave until my SE calls it "No Mas!".]
 
CounterSocial said:
I was sitting on the Apple Store app the second it went live. Finished my order within 1 minute and got an October 5th through 12th delivery window. It could not accept me picking it up with a scheduled time at my local Apple store for some reason. Does this seem normal? Could it be because I went with the Max 512gb? That's the only reason I can think of. That maybe there will be fewer of those at launch so they went instantly. Pretty ticked off about the 3 week wait when I know I was through the whole process quick. FYI: Boss woke up an hour after the pre-order started and ordered the 256gb Max and was given September 29 ... I'm just really confused and to I know the 512gb is overkill but for the very first time in my life I'm able to say the heck with it and decided to go all out for once and also preorder for the first time.

Any insight by pre-order pros would be appreciated.
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I also had an Oct ship date after just a few minutes. But I picked in store pickup for the 21st and that worked fine. Perhaps the in store slots filled up in between you seeing the options and finalizing the order. On Apple launch days, seconds matter.
 
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ftaok said:
You have to look at the bigger picture. Sure, goods in the US may cost less than the same goods in Europe/elsewhere, but we pay for other things that you may not have to. For instance, healthcare is not cheap in the US. Going to University costs a ton in the US. Overall, I would imagine that the standard of living in the US is similar to the other European countries.

You can't just do a currency conversion and compare. Too many other factors.
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I'm not comparing the cost of living in the US to Europe. But when they tell me Macs are really popular among US college students and iPhones are everywhere I'm not surprised at all.
Maybe I should have written my post in the discussion about Tim Cook talking about the price of iPhone. Prices may be ok for the US but are really nuts in EU, sure we have more taxes but Apple is selling at higher prices to protect from currency fluctuation, I'm ok with that if they keep a reasonable margin but they protect themselves way too much from that risk.
 
Order my wife a gold XS this morning at 7:20 am ET and shipping was the 21st. Ordered my own at 8:20 or so. By then both the white and black had shipping dates pushed back to the 28th-5th. 256 GB models in both cases.
 
I've always been able to understand Apple's pricing policy somewhere and was willing to pay the premium, but this goes too far for me. 1319€ = 1494$ for iPhone Xs 256 GB.
 
Textime said:
I've always been able to understand Apple's pricing policy somewhere and was willing to pay the premium, but this goes too far for me. 1319€ = 1494$ for iPhone Xs 256 GB.
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Thta's messed up. In the US, $1449 gets you a 512GB XS Max.
 
I got my iPhone Xs Max 256gb no problem early in the morning. I'm gonna try it out during the 14 day return period and if it is too massive for me I'll return it and buy a used iPhone X for like $800 instead. I'm coming from an iPhone 6. Have always been jealous of my friends who had the plus sized phones, but I've never used one for an extended period.
 
TallManNY said:
There is no "process" that can get millions of complicated phones built in a shorter amount of time. The available manufacturing lines are what they are and they are sized so they will be busy all year long.

The only "process" that would work is to start final manufacture of phones a month or so earlier, then store larger amounts of phones for longer period of time. Doing that would vastly increase possibility of leaks of working phones. It would also cut a month or so off of an already short development period, taking away a month of time to innovate on that model. Apple doesn't want to do that. They already, obviously, stock several weeks of full scale production. But to really satisfy first day demand, they would have store many more weeks of production.
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You’ve hit the nail on the head. There just isn’t that much time from the yearly upgrade to be able to afford a couple of months stockpiling items. And what if a problem is discovered and Apple already has hundreds of thousands of phones sitting in warehouses that now need to be fixed?
 
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Anyone else waiting until they pay their 12th payment on the X in the upgrade program? Not about to pay $56 just to pre-order a phone a few weeks early that is already going to hurt my wallet enough lol.
 
Rafterman said:
I also had an Oct ship date after just a few minutes. But I picked in store pickup for the 21st and that worked fine. Perhaps the in store slots filled up in between you seeing the options and finalizing the order. On Apple launch days, seconds matter.
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It wouldn’t let me pick the only Apple Store anywhere near me for pickup, that option was ghosted out. For times sake I just selected home delivery. I got a Sept 21 delivery. I don’t know why that option wasn’t available but I work in town and instead of 40 miles from the store I would be only 10. But it might be that I picked a version without a sim that caused a problem as well.
 
Lol, i ordered 2 minutes after the website was online. Both Series 4 and Xs will be delivered between Oct 8-10.
Suck my pipi Apple, I will buy them elsewhere for €100 less!
 
CounterSocial said:
I was sitting on the Apple Store app the second it went live. Finished my order within 1 minute and got an October 5th through 12th delivery window. It could not accept me picking it up with a scheduled time at my local Apple store for some reason. Does this seem normal? Could it be because I went with the Max 512gb? That's the only reason I can think of. That maybe there will be fewer of those at launch so they went instantly. Pretty ticked off about the 3 week wait when I know I was through the whole process quick. FYI: Boss woke up an hour after the pre-order started and ordered the 256gb Max and was given September 29 ... I'm just really confused and to I know the 512gb is overkill but for the very first time in my life I'm able to say the heck with it and decided to go all out for once and also preorder for the first time.

Any insight by pre-order pros would be appreciated.
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In past years store pickup has sometimes been limited to allocated store stock, although I thought they changed that, at least for upgrade program members.

I ordered within the first minute of the store opening (which was at most a minute late here) and when I ordered it said Sept. 21 delivery, but my confirmation email (which didn't arrive for several minutes) said Sept. 28 - Oct. 5.
 
I forgot to set an alarm to get up and order so I just did it now from AT&T. I ordered for my wife and I so two orders, a 256gb XS Max Space Gray and a 256gb XS Gold. Both estimate September 21st as delivery date.

Unfortunately I also preordered an Apple Watch from Apple's site. Series 4 GPS + Cellular, 44mm Space Black Stainless Steel Case with Black Sport Band and that has estimated delivery date from October 12th-19th. =[ I want the watch more than the phone too. I bought the first Apple Watch and loved it. Kids destroyed and have put off buying another. Pretty excited to upgrade from Series 1 to 4!
 
Those prices are obscene. Add on another $145 tax for the 512GB in NY and you've just spent $1600 on a bigger iPhone X
 
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