iPhone XS iPhone XS - momentary stuttering after inactivity

[Robertoxxxl]

That is a very serious accusation of unethical behavior on the part of Apple. Do have proof of this or is this just your personal conjecture? Show documented evidence that this occurs.

Do not pretend to be surprised, that's how everyone works and everywhere, by the way, it's no discovery that certain groups of people are treated as a priority. In Saudi Arabia they get Iphones from gold. Start using the brain yourself by analyzing what is happening in the media vs. what other normal people experience. It's the best proof.

 

[sparksd]

Do not pretend to be surprised, that's how everyone works and everywhere, by the way, it's no discovery that certain groups of people are treated as a priority. In Saudi Arabia they get Iphones from gold. Start using the brain yourself by analyzing what is happening in the media vs. what other normal people experience. It's the best proof.

No, it is not how everyone works and I speak from 45+ years experience in s/w & h/w development. prove your contention, don't just provide "everybody does it" statements. That is flat out untrue.
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it means that you are an ordinary ignorant with a 45-year-old man in this field, with a syndrome of the nasal nose. And you prove that I'm wrong. Post materials showing the perfect work of your device and that you are not connected to the groups of people in which it is in the best interest to care for the good name of a given brand at the expense of all other users.

No. I'm done with you as you've sunk to the level of unsubstantiated accusations of unethical behavior by Apple and personal insults. Good bye.

 

[Robertoxxxl]

No, it is not how everyone works and I speak from 45+ years experience in s/w & h/w development. prove your contention, don't just provide "everybody does it" statements. That is flat out untrue.
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No. I'm done with you as you've sunk to the level of unsubstantiated accusations of unethical behavior by Apple and personal insults. Good bye.

Goodbye.

 

[calibru_2good_4u]

It seems that are some “Isheeps” on this tread , Xs max is literally rubish with IOS 12 , lte and 4g are not working , is lagging a lot , lots of frame drops , is freezing In apps .
Take a look here :

And please do not comment anymore !

 

[sparksd]

It seems that are some “Isheeps” on this tread , Xs max is literally rubish with IOS 12 , lte and 4g are not working , is lagging a lot , lots of frame drops , is freezing In apps .
Take a look here :

And please do not comment anymore !

Sounds like the message is steer clear of the Beta.

 

[calibru_2good_4u]

Sounds like the message is steer clear of the Beta.

It sounds like Xs max it’s full of bugs ... event zollotech it’s experiencing scrolling stutters , lags and app crashes... anyway .. I’m using mac of for foto editing cause is outstanding! I ‘m using iPhone because of iOS by this year was a black one for me .. I’m having lots of problems with my Xs max .. I hope that apple will solve this in a quick and elegant way . If not . I will look forward to huaweii P30 witch is amazing

 

[sparksd]

It sounds like Xs max it’s full of bugs ... event zollotech it’s experiencing scrolling stutters , lags and app crashes... anyway .. I’m using mac of for foto editing cause is outstanding! I ‘m using iPhone because of iOS by this year was a black one for me .. I’m having lots of problems with my Xs max .. I hope that apple will solve this in a quick and elegant way . If not . I will look forward to huaweii P30 witch is amazing

That hasn't been my experience with my XS Max - it's been running well. I've stopped using Beta's because of previous issues with unstable releases. I don't doubt your issue and by no means am I an Apple fanboy, the XS Max being my first iPhone - I've been an Android user since it's introduction.

 

[Abu668]

On videos, the gestures/animations look very fluid. But in reality it looks very different. My Xr is not running so smoothly. Am I the only one who sees this?

And..i see shuttering when I quickly swipe in the App Switcher and then again between the home pages I see shuttering. Is it the same with you?

 

[Robertoxxxl]

On videos, the gestures/animations look very fluid. But in reality it looks very different. My Xr is not running so smoothly. Am I the only one who sees this?

And..i see shuttering when I quickly swipe in the App Switcher and then again between the home pages I see shuttering. Is it the same with you?

Not only you.

 

[Christo128]

Still getting the jittering when scrolling slowly whilst keeping finger on screen. Does not happen all the time but is annoying when it does. The UI is improved but still jitters on app closures and moving around the home screen. Maybe less jitters but for me the UI is still not as fluid as older phones. I can confirm that gaming still has frame rate drops when panning and navigating around landscape games, it does not do this on my IPad Air 2 so I guess the developers are bashing their heads on a way to try and make their games compatible to this substandard new phones with crappy UI.

I firmly believe all new phones are effected and only the motivated highly acute responsible adult with high standards will not accept this.

My XR had it and now my third replacement XS still has the stutters. Let’s not forget the growing apple thread that got taken down with thousands of un happy people saying they have the issue. Apple still need to fix this. If they don’t then they will loose customers.

 

[jfim88]

I’m not experiencing any stuttering issues on my Max. All animations and transitions are really smooth.

I had a Max that had calls issues and Apple give me a new one. Never experienced this issue in neither of the two.

Installed 12.2 from scratch with iTunes and no backup.

 

[Robertoxxxl]

lucky man, celebrity or another Apple employee?

 

[sparksd]

I’m not experiencing any stuttering issues on my Max. All animations and transitions are really smooth.

I had a Max that had calls issues and Apple give me a new one. Never experienced this issue in neither of the two.

Installed 12.2 from scratch with iTunes and no backup.

Be prepared to be insulted.

 

[Christo128]

I’m not experiencing any stuttering issues on my Max. All animations and transitions are really smooth.

I had a Max that had calls issues and Apple give me a new one. Never experienced this issue in neither of the two.

Installed 12.2 from scratch with iTunes and no backup.

So please explain to me why 1x XR followed by three replacement XS phones and I still have the issue. It’s easy to replace them as you go in the shop and show them and they agree there is an issue. The shop manager even confirmed she had the issue as well and we both reported it to the technical team but no replies as of yet.

Even all the developers are struggling to perfect their apps because of the issue so not sure what else to say.

Also, can replicate the issue on all my friends phones and all devices on A12 chip even the new IPad Mini. Although there is an improvement of stutters across the UI with this new beta, the issue for me still exists.

 

[Robertoxxxl]

Be prepared to be insulted.

Do not be so nervous, you have not known any pictures yet. Your level of sensitivity is as large as mine for the Stuttering phenomenon.

 

[sparksd]

So please explain to me why 1x XR followed by three replacement XS phones and I still have the issue. It’s easy to replace them as you go in the shop and show them and they agree there is an issue. The shop manager even confirmed she had the issue as well and we both reported it to the technical team but no replies as of yet.

Even all the developers are struggling to perfect their apps because of the issue so not sure what else to say.

Also, can replicate the issue on all my friends phones and all devices on A12 chip even the new IPad Mini. Although there is an improvement of stutters across the UI with this new beta, the issue for me still exists.

I think that there is a realistic probability that some/many users - including myself - may actually have the stutter issue but can't perceive it. I've seen a number of posts from people who do not perceive any effects of ProMotion on the iPad Pro's. I can imagine that you and I could look at the same device at the same time and I would not perceive what you are seeing. I don't deny that many people are seeing it but nor do I deny that many people are not (though it may be there).

 

[jfim88]

lucky man, celebrity or another Apple employee?

Neither of two. You’re free to believe or not.

Be prepared to be insulted.

So please explain to me why 1x XR followed by three replacement XS phones and I still have the issue. It’s easy to replace them as you go in the shop and show them and they agree there is an issue. The shop manager even confirmed she had the issue as well and we both reported it to the technical team but no replies as of yet.

Even all the developers are struggling to perfect their apps because of the issue so not sure what else to say.

Also, can replicate the issue on all my friends phones and all devices on A12 chip even the new IPad Mini. Although there is an improvement of stutters across the UI with this new beta, the issue for me still exists.

I can’t explain why this issue exists or why some are suffering it. I believe you’re experiencing it. I can only say my Max is smooth.

 

[Christo128]

Neither of two. You’re free to believe or not.







I can’t explain why this issue exists or why some are suffering it. I believe you’re experiencing it. I can only say my Max is smooth.

I just want the same UI that I had with my 6s and all 5 older models before that. I suppose coming from an older device that’s perfect to a new one was my mistake as the stuttering is expected in new devices ?
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I just want the same UI that I had with my 6s and all 5 older models before that. I suppose coming from an older device that’s perfect to a new one was my mistake as the stuttering is expected in new devices ?

So many replacements and I still have the issue so I am not convinced that there was a faulty batch. Still, I do applaud what ever has been done to the new beta. Does feel so much smoother as supposed to 6 months ago when the UI was jittery as hell. But , the scrolling issue, app closures and opening, gaming jitters are still there and I see them. If someone can tell me that this is normal behaviour, then I can make an informed deduction on wether to change devices.

 

[igroeg]

I think that there is a realistic probability that some/many users - including myself - may actually have the stutter issue but can't perceive it. I've seen a number of posts from people who do not perceive any effects of ProMotion on the iPad Pro's. I can imagine that you and I could look at the same device at the same time and I would not perceive what you are seeing. I don't deny that many people are seeing it but nor do I deny that many people are not (though it may be there).

Not seeing the difference between 60hz and 120hz is hard to believe.

 

[NJHitmen]

I'm probably going to get shouted down, but...

You can claim the stuttering is a global phenomenon present on every XS Max, but that's a really tough sell. There's no way to prove it, and lots of people will argue against it. Of course everyone has the right to his/her opinion. But no one on this forum has access to the kind of information that would allow us to draw any conclusions about the universality of the issue. We're all forming theories based on incomplete data.

So please explain to me why 1x XR followed by three replacement XS phones and I still have the issue.

Simplest answer: that's a spectacularly small sample size. How many millions of XR/XS phones have been sold? I can believe that thousands of them exhibit the stuttering, maybe even tens of thousands more owned by users who can't/don't perceive the issue. But all of them? Perhaps there's a batch of devices in your region which are all impacted. Maybe there's some specific combination of your settings that induces the phenomenon. We just can't say.

Look, I accept that this is a real issue which Apple needs to address. It sucks that you're dealing with the stuttering, and you absolutely deserve a smoothly-operating device. Honestly, I'm glad you guys seem to be making some sort of progress towards a potential resolution. But I'm floored by claims like:

I firmly believe all new phones are effected and only the motivated highly acute responsible adult with high standards will not accept this.

That said, apparently you can safely ignore me. Because I'm just an irresponsible child with low standards.

 

[sparksd]

Not seeing the difference between 60hz and 120hz is hard to believe.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/cant-see-promotion.2054238/

 

[Robertoxxxl]

Not seeing the difference between 60hz and 120hz is hard to believe.

because 120 Hz refers to the touch response itself, not the screen refreshing. To see the differences between 120 and 60 the frame rate must be 120 with the vertical synchronization enabled in a different situation your eye perceives the picture's fluidity worse than the standard 60 Hz. All you need is 1-2 frames of difference and the image becomes temporarily out of sync. If the device is not able to maintain vertical synchronization at the fixed 60 fps level, we can see declines by half 30fps.

 

[Christo128]

I'm probably going to get shouted down, but...

You can claim the stuttering is a global phenomenon present on every XS Max, but that's a really tough sell. There's no way to prove it, and lots of people will argue against it. Of course everyone has the right to his/her opinion. But no one on this forum has access to the kind of information that would allow us to draw any conclusions about the universality of the issue. We're all forming theories based on incomplete data.



Simplest answer: that's a spectacularly small sample size. How many millions of XR/XS phones have been sold? I can believe that thousands of them exhibit the stuttering, maybe even tens of thousands more owned by users who can't/don't perceive the issue. But all of them? Perhaps there's a batch of devices in your region which are all impacted. Maybe there's some specific combination of your settings that induces the phenomenon. We just can't say.

Look, I accept that this is a real issue which Apple needs to address. It sucks that you're dealing with the stuttering, and you absolutely deserve a smoothly-operating device. Honestly, I'm glad you guys seem to be making some sort of progress towards a potential resolution. But I'm floored by claims like:



That said, apparently you can safely ignore me. Because I'm just an irresponsible child with low standards.[/

I'm probably going to get shouted down, but...

You can claim the stuttering is a global phenomenon present on every XS Max, but that's a really tough sell. There's no way to prove it, and lots of people will argue against it. Of course everyone has the right to his/her opinion. But no one on this forum has access to the kind of information that would allow us to draw any conclusions about the universality of the issue. We're all forming theories based on incomplete data.



Simplest answer: that's a spectacularly small sample size. How many millions of XR/XS phones have been sold? I can believe that thousands of them exhibit the stuttering, maybe even tens of thousands more owned by users who can't/don't perceive the issue. But all of them? Perhaps there's a batch of devices in your region which are all impacted. Maybe there's some specific combination of your settings that induces the phenomenon. We just can't say.

Look, I accept that this is a real issue which Apple needs to address. It sucks that you're dealing with the stuttering, and you absolutely deserve a smoothly-operating device. Honestly, I'm glad you guys seem to be making some sort of progress towards a potential resolution. But I'm floored by claims like:



That said, apparently you can safely ignore me. Because I'm just an irresponsible child with low standards.

yup ! Low standards indeed. You nailed it ! I am glad you except it as a real issue. Speculation on regional devices affected? Not sure if this is possible as they all come from the same place with same standards of production.

 

[Vexxx]

Perception...

No one can deny the fact that ALL oled iPhones use PWM which causes flicker. Some perceive the flicker and thus get problems.

You can say that my phone does not flicker, but it does. https://www.google.fi/amp/s/www.oled-info.com/pulse-width-modulation-pwm-oled-displays?amp

Same goes with xs stuttering.

 

[Robertoxxxl]

Perception...

No one can deny the fact that ALL oled iPhones use PWM which causes flicker. Some perceive the flicker and thus get problems.

You can say that my phone does not flicker, but it does. https://www.google.fi/amp/s/www.oled-info.com/pulse-width-modulation-pwm-oled-displays?amp

Same goes with xs stuttering.

That's why Apple should introduce solutions in the software that give the possibility to improve synchronization, Other interface animation under the oled screen account.