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No, you don't. Here's why:

First of all, this is corporate America at it's finest. It makes sense that Apple would cater to iPhone users a wee bit more than iPod Touch users, because iPhone users generate more revenue for Apple. It's how businesses work. For the record I do not own an iPhone.

Second, Apple's customer service is superior to all others I've ever dealt with, and I'm sure Apple is doing everything they can to make the Touch 2.0 firmware available. Stuff happens, and as has been well documented, I'm sure Apple's servers are completely overloaded right now.

The problem is that they didn't. They obviously didn't test MobileMe and it is largely borked. I put aside time to fix my stuff on MobileMe that I rely on. I wasn't bothered so much that it was late, but got quite cheesed off at its unreliability and bugs. Now I am irritated because I can't update my iPod, and Apple doesn't seem to have told anyone anything.

The present method of downloading and installing updates for iPhones and iPod Touches obviously doesn't work very well. Perhaps it would have been prudent to have thought of another method (using purchased serial numbers and the regular software update app). Apple manages to update millions of Macs without these problems, yet can't do so for a fraction of that number of iPhones.

This just isn't good enough. It's even worse since this is a company who I give large sums of money to precisely to avoid bad customer service and technical snafus.

The least they could do is actually tell people what is happening so we could make other plans.

Patience is a virtue, and you need to learn it.

I'll remember to tell that to the next corporation to which I am late paying a bill. I am sure they will understand...

That rule only works between persons, not between people and corporations.
 
Are you saying that the iPhone 2.0 firmware does work on the iPod Touch? I thought it wasn't supposed to.

There's a glitch that gives you the Touch firmware for free if you install the beta, downgrade to 1.4 then re upgrade.
 
My 2.0 firmware finally finished downloading. I can't update my iPod though. I tried the Option+Update thing. All of the files are faded out so I can't click on anyone them to update with. Am I missing something?

Unzip the firmware file.
 
Tried the beta version on one of my iPods, now suck in recovery mode and will not work. Great!

1.1.4 to beta 2.0 will not flash to the device.

1.1.4 to Beta works my friend tons have done it... I can't imagine how you managed to muck it up but just restore to a backup of your 1.1.4 and try again. if you didn't do a backup shame shame, just find one off bittorrent.

Either way no worries :) just restore and try again. Installing the new firmware does take a while but gotta transfer 200MB and install everything.
 
The problem is that they didn't. They obviously didn't test MobileMe and it is largely borked. I put aside time to fix my stuff on MobileMe that I rely on. I wasn't bothered so much that it was late, but got quite cheesed off at its unreliability and bugs. Now I am irritated because I can't update my iPod, and Apple doesn't seem to have told anyone anything.

The present method of downloading and installing updates for iPhones and iPod Touches obviously doesn't work very well. Perhaps it would have been prudent to have thought of another method (using purchased serial numbers and the regular software update app). Apple manages to update millions of Macs without these problems, yet can't do so for a fraction of that number of iPhones.

This just isn't good enough. It's even worse since this is a company who I give large sums of money to precisely to avoid bad customer service and technical snafus.

The least they could do is actually tell people what is happening so we could make other plans.



I'll remember to tell that to the next corporation to which I am late paying a bill. I am sure they will understand...

That rule only works between persons, not between people and corporations.

I understand your frustration. And I agree that Apple dropped the ball so to speak on informing the public of what the real issue is here.

I also understand that a lot of people rely on MobileMe for a lot of their emails and other information, but again, it wasn't down for very long.

Let us not forget that Vista is STILL having issues.

As far as patience goes, it's our inability to deal with a delay of over an hour that's a big issue. Apple has been pretty consistent with updates and such since the release of OSX. I don't think we all can fully understand what it takes to move your server from .mac to MobileMe, or deal with a release of a new product and new software simultaneously, especially with the incredibly high demand.

Cut them some slack, they're still the best computer company out there.
 
I can understand if Apple's servers have crashed, but from what I've seen, it's almost like they don't even know they've crashed. Nothing has changed. Nothing's been said publicly. Apple needs to do something.

Steve Jobs is on his Gulfstream V, enroute to a secure location. :cool:
 
really? and just what are you going to do? wow stop acting like a child. if you're losing sleep over this im afraid your problem has little to do with apple.
How am I acting like a child in what I said? I am on the same side of you here, I was responding to somebody who was acting like a child. I haven't lost an ounce of sleep here, I hope that it is up by tonight though, because I will be away from my computer for the next week.
Except it's well past the 11th in other parts of the world.
But the company that is released by is based in California, and Apple has always released things on their time zones unless otherwise stated.
 
My 2.0 firmware finally finished downloading. I can't update my iPod though. I tried the Option+Update thing. All of the files are faded out so I can't click on anyone them to update with. Am I missing something?

Um - try option-restore, not update.

It should allow you to update from your ipod backup during installation but you should be prepared to lose everything on it anyway.
 
I think I might have downloaded the wrong thing. The thing I downloaded is a folder called iPod1,1_2, which is full of stuff iTunes can't use to update the iPod.

There's supposed to be a zip file, but I don't see that anywhere in the folder. I'm lost...
 
I think I might have downloaded the wrong thing. The thing I downloaded is a folder called iPod1,1_2, which is full of stuff iTunes can't use to update the iPod.

There's supposed to be a zip file, but I don't see that anywhere in the folder. I'm lost...

Sounds like you downloaded using Safari. Check your Trash.

Meanwhile, Firefox has now eaten my download twice, so I have to start again. This is going to take hours. :(
 
I understand your frustration. And I agree that Apple dropped the ball so to speak on informing the public of what the real issue is here.

I also understand that a lot of people rely on MobileMe for a lot of their emails and other information, but again, it wasn't down for very long.

It's been 36 hours now and it still doesn't stay up. I'm a long term Apple user who buys Apple specifically to avoid these sorts of problems. I made time to sit down and fix up my MobileMe date once it was up. I will still have to do this, since I have given up with all the bugs and the downtime. That's annoying.

But on it's own, I wasn't so bothered. Everyone is allowed a mistake once in a while. But with the other reported problems and the lack of solid information, it just seems to me that Apple really dropped the ball here, and that we have passed over from honest mistake to negligence.

I've had to deal with Apple mistakes before (bad hardware, online purchasing errors) and in each case I was made aware of exactly what I had to do and exactly what Apple was doing so solve the problem. That's not the case here. No one seems to know much.

Let us not forget that Vista is STILL having issues.

I know, but I pay Apple so that I don't have to put up with similar issues. I trust them to anticipate problems and do their homework. I'm not extremely rich, but I spend more to buy Apple stuff because reliability matters to me.

As far as patience goes, it's our inability to deal with a delay of over an hour that's a big issue. Apple has been pretty consistent with updates and such since the release of OSX. I don't think we all can fully understand what it takes to move your server from .mac to MobileMe, or deal with a release of a new product and new software simultaneously, especially with the incredibly high demand.

It's more than an hour. The news on when these updates were supposed to happen has been almost non-existent. The app store has been up for a day now. The logic of posting them just as North Americans are waking up and/or buying new iPhones is bizarre. It would have been so much easier to have started the updates rolling along with the international sales.

I guess I'm willing to cut anyone some slack, but I'm willing to cut Apple a lot less slack than other companies precisely because they have my custom because of their own high standards.

Cut them some slack, they're still the best computer company out there.

That's true, but they will still be the best computer company even if they slip a long way, and I don't want that to happen. I was less than pleased with the state of Leopard when it was released (although it's OK now), and I worry that Apple is spreading itself so thin that it won't be able to keep up standards.
 
did u download it with safari or firefox cuz i heard u need firefox cuz safari gives u some weird files

It doesn't give you weird files, it just automatically appends .zip to the end of the file name. If you remove it before you open it in iTunes it works fine.
 
Same thing, can't click on anything in the folder.

You should not have a folder, you should have a "box" (a zipped file) with a .ipsw extension.

Look in your trash if you downloaded from Safari the zipped file should be there.

If you have emptied your trash, just zip the folder and change the extension from zip to ipsw.
 
Sounds like you downloaded using Safari. Check your Trash.

Meanwhile, Firefox has now eaten my download twice, so I have to start again. This is going to take hours. :(

Found the file in my trash, deleted the .zip from the name, now it's updating my iPod on iTunes. Thanks!
 
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