Then why has mobile safari become the most used mobile internet browser even though iphone/ipodtouch only make up a tiny fraction of all pocket internet devices. It's because mobile safari is USEABLE.
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iPod Touch: 'Mainstream Wi-Fi Mobile Platform'
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Then why has mobile safari become the most used mobile internet browser even though iphone/ipodtouch only make up a tiny fraction of all pocket internet devices. It's because mobile safari is USEABLE.
Sure you have.
Surely, you're trolling. I am the unhappy owner of a Windows mobile device (which I received for free, as I would never pay for one). Sure, I can watch TV on my phone in addition to doing most things that the iPhone does, but comparing WinMobile to OS X is like comparing a traction engine to a modern race car. Try Core Animation for a start. The iPhone SDK will result in quality apps that simply put Windows Mobile to shame. All you need to do is compare the mobile version of Windows Media Player with the multitouch iPod.
But the killer is that Windows mobile doesn't have multitouch. End of story. The iPhone has demonstrated that plastic keyboards, single touch screens are hopeless. There is no counterargument. Modern smart devices are too versatile to be limited to a fixed UI and single touch screens do not offer the versatility of multitouch. You probably won't be able to buy a smart device that doesn't have multitouch technology in five years time.
Come back to me when Microsoft has its OS on a device that isn't crippled by 20th century interface conventions.
Now if Apple would only fix the Calendar alarm.
I believe they did this with 1.1.2 update. Haven't missed any alarms since I updated to that.
If we get the iPod touch, all we pay is for the price of the device, there is no monthly charge, thats one big reason why I don't have an iPhone.
Yes, but you are going to need some sort of mobile phone as well, so there is a cost impact there, albeit lower than the astronomical iPhone contract.
Perhaps for the 5.5 billion consumers on the planet who cant buy an iphone as El Jobs refused to release an unlocked phone worldwide. At least the ipod touch is a satisfactory device to tide me over.
Oh and I currently spend about 15 bucks a month on my prepay mobile. works well as unlike some american consumers we aren't stupid enough to pay for incoming calls as well as outgoing.
Okay, I am a happy iPhone owner, but there is a severe amount of misinformation being thrown at windows mobile in here for no good reason.
The greatest strength and weakness of WM6 is that it is what you make of it. the iPhone is a great experience right out of the box, wheras you need to utilize 3rd party software to really make a WM6 device hum.
Here are the following reasons why I will not switch my staff off of WM6:
1) Pocket Informant - this basically craps all over any PIM on any device, iphone easily included. Full exchange integration, excellent contact grouping, easy color markings for events/contacts, syncable notes, and all sorts of great features that my office needs. And an interface closer to a desktop PIM without being unusable on the mobile platform.
2) Powerpoint Mobile - Part of the core software, this tool allows staffers to do full on powerpoint presentations from their phones, with only a cable that hooks directly into the monitor / projector. Talk about packing light for a meeting.
3) Core Player - the ability to play any audio or video format on your mobile device without converting or feeding through itunes is really nice sometimes.
4) ePocrates - Medical software developed for Palm and Windows mobile. Absolutely essential in my office.
5) Opera Mobile - full on opera browser for mobile devices, including flash, java, and AJAX support. A bit slower than safari, but a far more complete rendering of the page. when Opera 9 comes out, the fast zooming of Safari will be incorporated.
There are more reasons, but what it really comes down to is the fact that due to the wide-open nature of windows mobile, it has always been very easy to develop apps for it, which has been a boon for professions such as lawyers, physicians, sales managers, etc.
Really, a great many of these advantages will go away (well, minus the powerpoint thing) if they make the SDK wide open and let anyone develop apps for the device without having to charge money for them or force all updates through the ITMS. Cause I can guarantee Apple won't let people subvert them by making a better mail.app than them and offer it on the marketplace, because they really seem to want to maintain control over the whole process.
If anyone is thinking about buying an iPod touch, waiting a while to make sure they get the new apps on it: Target is selling the models w/o the apps for $280 and $380, 8GB and 16GB respectively, so you can buy it at Target today, pay $20 for the firmware update, you get the same iPod touch and the new apps for the same price you'd pay waiting however long for the new app models to get out to mainstream retail stores.
Yes it can, see [guide]VPN on the iPod Touch[/guide].
FWIW to other posters 802.1X is not 802.11g
.Just like the iPod Touch? I had to add one line of code for my site to look good on the iPod Touch.
Code:
<meta name="viewport" content="width=480" />And no, I'm not using ASP, PHP, or hell even Javascript to do this, just one set of HTML and CSS.
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the only problem i see with using the itunes store is that the store is not there in too many countries, and especially since the iphone is supposed to launch in asia soon and the ipod touch available worldwide, it would be cruel to exclude the many who simply won't be able to access the apps cz of the store's absence. that's the problem with the current 5 apps that apple launched for the touch.
similarly for ipod games that are available. we are simply not able to buy 'em.!! in 2008, thats really sad!!
Interestingly...
...the SDK release does raise some interesting questions about how Apple responds to the emergence of 3rd party apps and hardware add-ons. VOIP, and particularly Skype, solutions appear to be quite high on everyone's wish lists.
If in 12 months time we have a legitimate (i.e. no jailbreak required) software base that includes a whole host of slick VOIP solutions and the hardware attachments to go with them, how does Apple resist the pressure to put an integrated mic into the next generation iPodTouch?
I think the SDK release is going to blur the lines between the iPhone and iPodTouch even further.
We'll see I guess,
Derwood
...the SDK release does raise some interesting questions about how Apple responds to the emergence of 3rd party apps and hardware add-ons. VOIP, and particularly Skype, solutions appear to be quite high on everyone's wish lists.
If in 12 months time we have a legitimate (i.e. no jailbreak required) software base that includes a whole host of slick VOIP solutions and the hardware attachments to go with them, how does Apple resist the pressure to put an integrated mic into the next generation iPodTouch?
I think the SDK release is going to blur the lines between the iPhone and iPodTouch even further.
We'll see I guess,
Derwood
true
I wish for the AppleTV rentals to be international. I'm in Germany, but I wanna get non-dubbed content or choose languages and subtitles. I'd hate to only get otherwise good movies dubbed in german.
What???? iPhone phone access charges (i.e. the AT&T part here in the US) is not bad at all. Only about $20 less than a Blackberry! Yes... $20 LESS when you look at the package you need to get with a Blackberry to have all the features that come with an iPhone. It's a phone and you're paying for internet access.... $60 a month (starting price) is not that bad.
Astronomical is a little overstated and dramatized. Obviously you don't actually own an iphone.
Now back to the discussion at hand...
I see the iPod Touch as the next revolution to the MP3 Player market... and Apple is smart to put it's efforts here and with the iPhone. Let's face it... the regular iPods have competition coming from everywhere. Where most were crap in the past, now most are ok to really comparable in function and features... so there needs to be another revolution to breath life back in the iPod market and making it mobile... truly mobile is (IMHO) the next place to go.
Maybe we could see an iPod Touch with 3G network access for $9.99 a month (through iTunes via AT&T with no contract)... then the Touch would be truly mobile. Hummm... do that with the Air, and the MacBooks... and.... and.... Nice!
I see the iPod Touch as the next revolution to the MP3 Player market... and Apple is smart to put it's efforts here and with the iPhone. Let's face it... the regular iPods have competition coming from everywhere. Where most were crap in the past, now most are ok to really comparable in function and features... so there needs to be another revolution to breath life back in the iPod market and making it mobile... truly mobile is (IMHO) the next place to go.
Maybe we could see an iPod Touch with 3G network access for $9.99 a month (through iTunes via AT&T with no contract)... then the Touch would be truly mobile. Hummm... do that with the Air, and the MacBooks... and.... and.... Nice!
£35 a month in the UK, which is high, especially when we're used to getting handsets free with a contract.
Notes
It may sound senseless but when at work I use my iPod touch to take notes, look at calendar and check mail... everybody just looks at me as I'm just wasting time "playing" with my iPod.
It's hard for people to take it seriously and realize what incredible technology it is...
It may sound senseless but when at work I use my iPod touch to take notes, look at calendar and check mail... everybody just looks at me as I'm just wasting time "playing" with my iPod.
It's hard for people to take it seriously and realize what incredible technology it is...
Yes your are missing something
, in my country ( Spain ) like most of the world besides of 4 countries ( US, F, G & UK) there is NO " official " iphone available .Saludos
That about sums up the situation precisely. If Steve has demonstrated anything over the years it is the ability to react to things that Apple missed.
In the case of the Touch it is simply a pocketable box that many people saw a lot of potential in. Recognizing and then exploiting that potential by the jailbreakers gave Apple a bit of insight into what people need and want. Well that and the ramblings on forums like this. In the case of Touch jsut imagine how much more useful that device would have been to the Jailbreakers if it supported bluetooth.
In any event if this is a sign that Apple is responding to the market then I suspect that we will see some very interesting tablets in the near future. The current Touch for example could easily be tweaked in its current form and other models added rapidly.
Dave
The one that any FUTURE devices from Apple needs to have. Especially if they have recognized the tablet nature of he device and what users want from it.
To you maybe, to the rest of us it is a viable alternative to old technology communications firms.
An Audio input on a multimedia device has no benefit. Cute!
The key here is that Apple already has one alternative available to them in the IPhone connector. Just upgrading to that would be a vast improvement in the Touch. If for compatibility reasons that doesn't fly then a separate input can be done rather cheaply. As to the A/D electronics I wouldn't be surprised it that hardware already exists on the Touch. The cost is so nominal as to not be a concern.
That doesn't even consider the bluetooth alternative. While it certainly adds costs does so by providing much more flexibility.
Nope I don't believe that! I think the Touch was built with this idea that it would be used in a certain way and thus had the option suite adjusted to what they thought the primary usage of the device would be. It is pretty clear that they did not expect the huge demand for the jailbreak to do nothing more that run applications the users wanted.
Actually I have made use of the feed back site that Apple provides and I recommend that anybody reading this thread does so also. It is simple as this if Apple doesn't know what your wants and desires are they can't respond to them. That doesn't mean they will respond to one individuals needs but if the get a sense that the market as a whole needs certain feature they very well may add the to a device. Further Apple does have a history of responding to users issues with its software and hardware.
Dave
Astronomical cost is very much iPhone.
Lets see 60 x 12 = $720! That is 720 dollars a year base to have the pleasure of owning an iPhone. That is Astronomical on a phone you are suppose to own outright. The question you have to ask yourself is why after buying your phone is Apple still taking cash from you every month.
If that isn't an issue consider that a pay as you go phone might cost you $180 bucks a YEAR! So one buys a Touch and has an outlay for the year that is still less than the iPhone Contract costs for all the devices he owns.
I hate to say this but if you look upon the iPhone contracts as being a good value you have your economics all screwed up. In many ways it is a rip off.
Lets see 60 x 12 = $720! That is 720 dollars a year base to have the pleasure of owning an iPhone. That is Astronomical on a phone you are suppose to own outright. The question you have to ask yourself is why after buying your phone is Apple still taking cash from you every month.
If that isn't an issue consider that a pay as you go phone might cost you $180 bucks a YEAR! So one buys a Touch and has an outlay for the year that is still less than the iPhone Contract costs for all the devices he owns.
I hate to say this but if you look upon the iPhone contracts as being a good value you have your economics all screwed up. In many ways it is a rip off.
The iPod Touch is actually turning out to be something that Ive been looking for. Ive been very dissapointed in the offering in Windows Mobile units. I hate the software the OS on those, its like a cluster f#*#