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Is anyone unhappy with High Sierra?

madrich said:
From some of the problems that I read here on the forums, High Sierra reminds me when I updated my MBP to Mavericks and it bricked my computer with kernel panics, restarts, and freezes. I took my computer into the Apple Store and the Genius ran a few tests and indicated that my MotherBoard was dying and should be replaced. Fortunately, Apple was still supporting my model year. I had my my MotherBoard replaced for a reasonable fee, but I specified that it should be seeded with Snow Leopard; not Maveticks. For me, El Capitan is like Snow Leopard; smooth and trouble free.
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I hear you loud and clear. I didn't upgrade even to Sierra and was super happy with El Capitan until it was absolutely necessary. The only reason I had to go to Sierra (and briefly to High Sierra) was because of my latest Mac's original OS being Sierra.

OS X 10.11.6 was rock solid for years and years, with tons of software added and also removed and never a clean re-install, and even after switching Macs.

Even at 10.12.6, Sierra is no El Cap, but at least it's not like Release Candidate 10.13.3 masquerading as legitimate OS code.
 
Got HS running on both my 2015 MBP and 2013 MBA with no real issues or concerns. Both were upgraded from S as well.
 
I will remain unhappy with Apple's piss poor efforts until they allow 4K @ 60 Hz over HDMI 2.0 and Audio passthrough of DTS-HDMA and ATMOS to my receiver.
 
I purchased a 2015 5K iMac, shipped with El Capitan, wonderful machine.

Upgrading to High Sierra rendered it an unusable hunk of scrap, in addition to that I sorely detest many of the changes made in High Sierra.

Reverting back to El Capitan removed all issues, and the machine is as speedy as the day I took it out of the box. I now will never buy a Mac ever again due to my experience with High Sierra, and will never update the OS on my 5K iMac. El Capitan is the last decent OS that they came out with.
 
varian55zx said:
I purchased a 2015 5K iMac, shipped with El Capitan, wonderful machine.

Upgrading to High Sierra rendered it an unusable hunk of scrap, in addition to that I sorely detest many of the changes made in High Sierra.

Reverting back to El Capitan removed all issues, and the machine is as speedy as the day I took it out of the box. I now will never buy a Mac ever again due to my experience with High Sierra, and will never update the OS on my 5K iMac. El Capitan is the last decent OS that they came out with.
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Um...agreed? Especially with the last sentence. El Cap was the last great OS X that Apple put out.

The High Sierra Apple farted out is a poor effort. I wonder if it's on purpose. There were so many "screw-ups" with iOS 11 too. Suspicious. :D
 
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Yup, it appears that Apple, on purpose, sabotaged some buyers just to drive them away from the Mac into a PC. They supplied these folks with a purposely defective copy of High Sierra. While other more favored customers, like myself, received a non defective copy of the OS that runs just fine.

Seems like a Super Sales Tactic to me!

Lou
 
Crunch said:
Um...agreed? Especially with the last sentence. El Cap was the last great OS X that Apple put out.

The High Sierra Apple farted out is a poor effort. I wonder if it's on purpose. There were so many "screw-ups" with iOS 11 too. Suspicious. :D
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Why do you think it is “on purpose”?
 
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Well, I just discovered the Illustrator CC 2018 / High Sierra graphics problem. . I hadn't used Illustrator on my 2017 13" until a few minutes ago and it's graphic artifacts everywhere. . . The "official solution" Disable GPU acceleration. It has apparently been a problem since CC 2018 was released (last year sept/oct). Apple has yet to fix it, and Illustrator is essentially useless on my machine now. Sad day.
 
^^^^AND - it's Apple's problem, not Adobe's Unknown.jpeg

Lou
 
Running HS on an early 2011 MacBook Pro and really unhappy with it. It is slow to boot, and I quite often get the spinning beach ball in Safari. I had assumed that it was due to the fixes that were included for the Meltdown/Spectre bugs in the cpu, but I am not so sure. I should probably go back to Sierra, but I want to keep this thing running as long as possible.
 
some people like me are suffering from random shut down. it's scary cause it may mislead people thinking that their hardware is broken and will pay $$ to get it fixed by Apple.
 
desertfool said:
Running HS on an early 2011 MacBook Pro and really unhappy with it. It is slow to boot, and I quite often get the spinning beach ball in Safari. I had assumed that it was due to the fixes that were included for the Meltdown/Spectre bugs in the cpu, but I am not so sure. I should probably go back to Sierra, but I want to keep this thing running as long as possible.
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It's not. It's an issue between Trim and APFS on 3rd party SSDs. Apparently installing High Sierra on HFS+ will fix the slow boot (or actually forcing the HFS+ installation).

As for "keeping this thing running as long as possible", why would running Sierra prevent you from keeping it running as long as possible?
 
It's created font issues on my 2015 rMBP where fonts randomly disappear and on occasion all fonts disappear from my screen and I have to force a hard reboot. Some programs also refuse to start and crash instantly.
 
Still on High Sierra for all 5 of my Macs in my sig. I won't be going to back to any earlier OS here.

Morpheo said:
As for "keeping this thing running as long as possible", why would running Sierra prevent you from keeping it running as long as possible?
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Safari and security updates.

That said, right now my usual recommended OS is Sierra. Sierra matured last year of course, and it has less software compatibility issues than High Sierra. It also doesn't suffer from the legacy GeForce video glitch. It's a rare occurrence but it happens. Fortunately, that video glitch is rare enough that most people won't even notice it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...cbook6-1-please-try-this-safari-test.2069901/
 
madrich said:
Sounds like HS is destroying the motherboard.
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maybe. Apple did hide their iOS throttling but I won't speculate. Thank goodness the problem is solved (clean reinstall). But in all seriousness, at first I thought my motherboard or gpu was slowly dying because the symptoms. I take really really good care of my Macs so I couldn't believe it was going to go off like that, so soon. I googled a lot using different keywords and finally I found the solution. It's not a common problem, but man, some people have had their battery replaced, motherboard replaced because of these software issues when the problem wasn't even hardware. Scary
 
Expected it to be more mature. Lots of random bugs affecting users. I also drive older versions and the quality has trended lower since after Mavericks.
 
No issues with HS on my mid 2011 MB Air and expecting no issues with it running on newly purchased 2017 4K iMac 21.5 i7 (it's coming this Thursday :))
 
maplingstorie said:
true that. I feel that 10.6 and 10.9 was the best.. I just don't know why.. these 2 were the best OS experiences for me.. 10.7 was the worst
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10.9 was solid. All it needed was today's hardware support, updated iCloud and Metal. I don't understand this 'rewrite the whole OS' every year. It only worked back when OS X was the OS introducing the new market leading features but we haven't seen macOS introduce anything major...except APFS??
 
What?
SoyCapitanSoyCapitan said:
10.9 was solid. All it needed was today's hardware support, updated iCloud and Metal. I don't understand this 'rewrite the whole OS' every year. It only worked back when OS X was the OS introducing the new market leading features but we haven't seen macOS introduce anything major...except APFS??
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APFS is a HUUUUGE change. And Apple baking in hardware HEVC support throughout its OS and software is also a very big deal. Also, did you forget Metal 2?

IOW, High Sierra is one of the biggest macOS / OS X releases in years.
 
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