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And ladies and gentlemen we have yet another thread to prove why apple fans are not though very highly off.

Regardless if ITV produces good shows are not. They own the trademark, they have been around longer than the i*blank* crazy of apple so no one can say they are did it to make a name slide.

This is a case were apple is SOL and APPLE is in the wrong.
 
I'm pretty sure as far as "brands" go, the Apple brand is much stronger than television station ITV. So to make the comment that they don't want their brand tarnished by be being associated with the best selling and best functioning smartphone of all time is pretty stupid.

That iPhone-4 comment was really lame. I have yet to see a real-world case of the iPhone-4 dropping a call when held over the target spot. But the media loves a failure, in a string of successes, the facts won't ever matter, if they can make their bigger messes. Too bad the media (including ITV) have been unable to make the iPhone-4 a failure despite their constant rant that the phone does not work properly.

It just goes to show that people are not all lemmings that follow what the media says. Despite the caricature of the iPhone user as some mindless zombie who will buy anything that Apple puts out just because it is popular, the iPhone user has by and large ignored the popular media-hyped lie that the iPhone-4 does not work since the phone is still selling like crazy. My bet is that most folks don't even use that free case that Apple gives them -- why? Because you don't need it to make the phone work.
 
60 million people is small?:rolleyes:

Also, it's not just any 60 million. Apple in the US has less revenue per person than in the UK. In a way, 60 million in the UK is closer to 100 million in the US (but no statistics and reference this time).

Besides, we have the two largest Apple Stores in the world! :p
 
Apple using iTV would probably bring more brand recognition and help that ****** TV channel more than anything they could ever come up with. They should be happy people might assume Apple's iTV and their iTV are the same thing or are related.

that channel is responsible for some of americas biggest tv shows.:rolleyes:
 
I dont think any of those shows are being made any more. Why bother spending money on quality drama when millions will tune in to some has-been or never-was eating kangaroo balls in the Australian jungle.

Haha! You've got a good point there! Unfortunately as 90% of people are boring idiots they are pandered to and trite like that is aired to the masses.
 
Oh, ITV network... :rolleyes: Don't get all in a huff just yet. Global bans? Cheap shots at the iPhone antenna? Calm thyselves.

Besides, Apple and England are pretty cozy. Seems like just about all of Apple's in-house designers are Brits. I'm sure this won't come to much.

All Apple would have to do is say, "OK, then we won't offer it in England." Riots in the streets ensue.

lol violently at you.

riots in the streets my ballz, the Apple Tv is one of apples few products thats get raped by the competition.
 
And ladies and gentlemen we have yet another thread to prove why apple fans are not though very highly off.

Regardless if ITV produces good shows are not. They own the trademark, they have been around longer than the i*blank* crazy of apple so no one can say they are did it to make a name slide.

This is a case were apple is SOL and APPLE is in the wrong.

First off -- Apple has yet to name anything iTV -- to say they are in the wrong is just well.... wrong.

Secondly, I think most Apple fans understand trademark law. It all comes down to whether or not the trademarks are in the same area of business. I could sell ball point pens branded as "ITV Pens" without infringing on anybody. Its up to courts to decide if a set-top box and a television station name are in the same area of business -- I could see arguments on both sides of that being valid -- it depends on where you draw the line. That is why "iPhone" was a problem with Cisco, since Cisco actually had a phone called the "iPhone".

In the USA, call letters for TV and Radio stations cannot be trademarks, though I suspect that ITV is a brand and does not represent call letters (like ABC versus KABC in L.A. and WABC in N.Y.).

I'm pretty sure that what Apple fans have a problem with is the off-handed attempt to tarnish Apple's brand by some TV station by perpetuating the iPhone-4 lie that the media is so fond of. Here ITV is saying "we cherish our brand and don't want it tarnished" in the same sentence where they attempt to tarnish Apple's brand with lies. Apple has not even tried to name a product iTV yet and ITV is trying to drum up press for themselves.

So thank you "Rodimus Prime" for showing us once again why Apple Fan haters are about the sorriest group of folks on the planet. Get a clue and go visit androidforums.com if you hate Apple Fans so much -- I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.
 
I have my doubts about this claim and is simple fat news to fill in space for friday

Canada has an iTV news channel and nothing coming outta this?
That means UK should be going after iTV in Canada as well, when iTV in Canada has been around a very, very long time.

Who's infringing who?
Maybe UK should shut the F*%^ up Canada iTV may just come after them for using iTV name after Canada established it loooong ago.

Shuv that up your a** UK

GO CANADA
Tbhat doesn't make sense *at all*.

ITV in the UK operates in the UK. iTV in Canada operates in Canada.

Apple would want to operate in both those territories.

GO COMMON SENSE!
 
Apple won't use the name "iTV" if they have any sense -- not because of ITV, but because TV in the conventional sense is dying. I'm as averse as anyone to the damn kids on my lawn, but I think I've turned my TV on once in the past two months.
 
Let's assume that Apple are planning to rename Apple TV as iTV.

Apple COULD buy ITV with the cash reserves they're sitting on, but that would be stupid, as "iTV" would not be a guaranteed success and ITVs market cap is around 2 Billion GDP I believe.
 
Thank you. The comments for every news story even slightly against Apple get so stupid here, they aren't even worth reading anymore.

ITV SHOULD BE HAPPY THEY ARE EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH APPLE
APPLE SHOULD JUST BUY THEM OUT LULZ!!11

Jesus Christ.


I agree... and again thank you Jonny75. To add to the ridiculousness:

Jeez, the 'gold dust' comment obviously shows these guys are typical anti-everything-Apple zealots.

Geez slffl, the must HATE APPLE because they said not everything they make is great and flawless! OMG... they must be TERRIBLE people.

What the reality is, you just LOVE APPLE to the point of being silly and thinking they are infallible. Well guess what? The iPhone has antenna and proximity sensor issues. And Apple does not have the right to use a name that has already been trademarked, no matter how bad all you fanboys rip on iTV network and blindly back Apple

God forbid it be the other way around, say if the iTV name was already used by Apple and then a network used their name. Everyone here would be like "OMG they can't do that they are just trying to use the popularity from Apple OMG it's SO UNFAIR!" Grow up (fan)boys.
 
I know exactly where you are coming from !

hahahahahahahaha, "We all take our ITV brand very seriously"
This is from the network that makes,
http://www.itv.com/lifestyle/loosewomen/

I know and I agree completely. All I have to add is 'Im a celebrity (almost) get me out of here" I don't know about apple damaging iTVs reeputaTion I would not want to be associated with ITV now that their program schedule has been downgraded to a combination of soaps,reality tv, Saturday night programs and chat shows. I'm not sure apple has the same target ordience in mind.
 
As trades CAN be international under certain fields, this would directly affect this as an infringement (unless agreements were made).

Its not about growing up, im well educated in this area Ive personally dealt with all this before, for the UK company to come out with something as petty as this it could potentially open the doors for Canada's iTV to break agreements and get sole name (International Trade Name).

UK company could be biting into a big area that goes internationally and end up losing their shirts.

Think for a sec, if you owned iTV before another company (internationally) and the younger company opens its brewhaa of lawyers for this wouldn't you want to make sure YOUR trade name is not jeopardized?

UK thinks they own everything and everyone, iTV Canada will sit back and watch then strike just as UK gets deep into this and the costs will mount so high the UK company will have to negotiate.

GOOD LUCK... Lets hope these bastards can swim with the BIG boys.

If you could just let us know more about this Canadian ITV company that would be much more helpful than blowing all this BS-flavoured smoke around. I Googled for 'ITV Canada' and 'iTV Canada' and 'Canadian iTV' etc and all I found were results for the UK's ITV network.

So... yeah, help us out, there's a good pri--- er, chap.
 
Excellent.... Lets lose our Marbles over a Rumor... Hasn't this got us in trouble in past history?
 
I'm pretty sure that what Apple fans have a problem with is the off-handed attempt to tarnish Apple's brand by some TV station by perpetuating the iPhone-4 lie that the media is so fond of. Here ITV is saying "we cherish our brand and don't want it tarnished" in the same sentence where they attempt to tarnish Apple's brand with lies.

Apple has done the exact same thing MANY times. I guess it's only a problem when someone does it to Apple.

So thank you "Rodimus Prime" for showing us once again why Apple Fan haters are about the sorriest group of folks on the planet. Get a clue and go visit androidforums.com if you hate Apple Fans so much -- I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.

:rolleyes:
 
6) This has not been mentioned in the thread, but people are fogetting ITV has been involved in an set top digital content box. This was under the umbrella of ITV Digital, and although it has now folded, they likely hold strong trademarks and conditions on the ITV name attached to digital TV and content provision

Yes it has. Ha ha.
 
ITV is just looking for some cheap publicity for a company that nobody outside the UK has heard of before. The "iTV" name is only a rumor at this point anyway.


Yes, all ITV really wants is for some random on the other side of the world that reads Apple rumour sites to know who they are and what they do, get some free publicity.

BS.

They have every right to be enquiring with lawyers about what this might mean if it comes to bear fruit, and in the meantime the story has been whipped up into a sexy SCANDAL by a tabloid filling it's column inches, and then ****s like you on the internet take it a face value and get even angrier. And then really nice normal people like me get really angry about all the angry ****s.

It's hilarious watching you lot get so ANGRY about someone DARING to (allegedly) protect their assets from Apple, a company that makes nothing but computing products for Christ's sake. And you know what? It probably won't even happen.

In fact I don't think Apple will have even seriously considered iTV because they'll know full well about the UK's ITV. It's not exactly small time, you know. Same thing happened with the iPad, there were all these rumours about the name, and none of them were remotely close.
 
First off -- Apple has yet to name anything iTV -- to say they are in the wrong is just well.... wrong.

Secondly, I think most Apple fans understand trademark law. It all comes down to whether or not the trademarks are in the same area of business. I could sell ball point pens branded as "ITV Pens" without infringing on anybody. Its up to courts to decide if a set-top box and a television station name are in the same area of business -- I could see arguments on both sides of that being valid -- it depends on where you draw the line. That is why "iPhone" was a problem with Cisco, since Cisco actually had a phone called the "iPhone".

In the USA, call letters for TV and Radio stations cannot be trademarks, though I suspect that ITV is a brand and does not represent call letters (like ABC versus KABC in L.A. and WABC in N.Y.).

I'm pretty sure that what Apple fans have a problem with is the off-handed attempt to tarnish Apple's brand by some TV station by perpetuating the iPhone-4 lie that the media is so fond of. Here ITV is saying "we cherish our brand and don't want it tarnished" in the same sentence where they attempt to tarnish Apple's brand with lies. Apple has not even tried to name a product iTV yet and ITV is trying to drum up press for themselves.

So thank you "Rodimus Prime" for showing us once again why Apple Fan haters are about the sorriest group of folks on the planet. Get a clue and go visit androidforums.com if you hate Apple Fans so much -- I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.

Here we go again... OMG you must HATE APPLE for saying that Apple is wrong in this instance. You know what? They ARE.

And I don't HATE Apple, but I think they are getting to big for their britches and have put out some pretty shoddy products. I used to be a blind fanboy, when I was in my teens, but I GREW up, and now I have a fair and balanced view of things. Yes, all my computers and my phone are made by Apple. I find them to be superior to the alternatives for one reason or another. But as I said before, the iP4 has so many issues I'm skipping this revision, and Apple's reaction to the problems have been a major turn off. And I think it's totally backward they won't support Blu-Ray, it's shortsighted an I'm sure it has something to do with not wanting to pay licensing fees then with anything else. But these comments mean I HATE Apple right? Because I didn't just spend nearly 6k of my income as a poor college student in the past 4 years on their products... no, let's ignore that. I just disagree with what's been happening lately.

The fanboyism on these forums drives me mad.
 
First off -- Apple has yet to name anything iTV -- to say they are in the wrong is just well.... wrong.

Secondly, I think most Apple fans understand trademark law. It all comes down to whether or not the trademarks are in the same area of business. I could sell ball point pens branded as "ITV Pens" without infringing on anybody. Its up to courts to decide if a set-top box and a television station name are in the same area of business -- I could see arguments on both sides of that being valid -- it depends on where you draw the line. That is why "iPhone" was a problem with Cisco, since Cisco actually had a phone called the "iPhone".

In the USA, call letters for TV and Radio stations cannot be trademarks, though I suspect that ITV is a brand and does not represent call letters (like ABC versus KABC in L.A. and WABC in N.Y.).

I'm pretty sure that what Apple fans have a problem with is the off-handed attempt to tarnish Apple's brand by some TV station by perpetuating the iPhone-4 lie that the media is so fond of. Here ITV is saying "we cherish our brand and don't want it tarnished" in the same sentence where they attempt to tarnish Apple's brand with lies. Apple has not even tried to name a product iTV yet and ITV is trying to drum up press for themselves.

So thank you "Rodimus Prime" for showing us once again why Apple Fan haters are about the sorriest group of folks on the planet. Get a clue and go visit androidforums.com if you hate Apple Fans so much -- I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.

You might want to go back and look at some older threads and examples from the past. ANYTHING negative or anti-apple it is FANBOYS ATTACK. This just happen to be one of them. It is rather sad.
 
That too! I love my little EyeTV dongle, had it since 2004 which I used to record some ITV shows ;).


True, they have produced some really popular programmes. Nothing I'd watch but I am impressed by their popularity.

They also produce Coronation Street and Emmerdale which are supposed to be very good (doesn't Corrie hold some record for being the longest running soap in the world?).
You are "impressed by their popularity"?

The UK has 4 major terrestrial channels, BBC (1 and 2), ITV, Channel 4, and five. ITV is MASSIVE. We may not like their stuff (their output apes American TV far too much for my liking) but they are undeniably HUGE over here.
 
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