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Ive on Apple Watch: One of the Most Difficult Projects I've Ever Worked On

Karma*Police said:
Never say never. In a few years, if Apple a Watch becomes a standalone device, I can easily see it becoming my main device and a small screen or tablet being the companion device. Not unlike my iPhone and iPad combo today. Further out, pico projectors, holographic displays or companion glasses could eliminate the need for a separate display altogether.

Also remember that Siri's capabilities will grow by leaps and bounds, further eliminating the need for a traditional smartphone in many instances.

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Exactly. My Walkman does the same thing as the iPod for a fraction of the price. Besides, who listens to a thousand songs in one sitting anyway? :p
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You're going to be screaming into your watch for siri to do what exactly?

And again, you're making false comparisons. Again, a watch can't do what a smart phone can. They are two different things.

A smart watch is nothing at this moment in time. It is a luxury. Its something to show your friends. That's all. It adds nothing to my experience. I deal with my messages on my phone. I look at my watch for the time. That's it. Most of the time I don't even wear a watch. I just look at my phone. That's my watch.
 
farewelwilliams said:
I still wish the watch is bit more responsive to your location

Example:
You arrive at the mall. You're at the entrance and the moment you raise your watch, the directory of that specific mall launches.

Or you arrive at a popular restaurant, and boom: a deal appears on your watch.

of course there should be a way to disable this feature incase it gets a bit spammy, but still a feature I'd like to see.
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You can do this if they have a iBeacon and you have you phone on you. You probably could get the directory just having your watch if its already on your watch (but, not sure there would be a point to that). I think for iBeacon to function properly, you need to have a communication backend since they don't give you much info. But, I might be wrong.

But, also probably if you only wear your watch and hit a iBeacon.
 
cdmoore74 said:
That’s the issue with this watch. They made it too difficult. Completely opposite from what iPhones/iOS stand for. He needs to head back to the drawing board with this thing before final product is released. If you need to zoom in on a super small screen when you have a phone in your pocket why not just whip out the bigger phone instead of turning a little dial? A watch should be click and scroll for notifications or action items. When you add zoom it’s a fail. And you got 2 buttons on the side to add more confusion.
Never seen a product that hooked me in for the first minute but completely lost me at the end.
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They're out of ideas. All tech companies are. They realized incremental updates of iPhones & iPads wouldn't cut it for shareholders much longer, so they went for the watch idea because everyone else was moving that direction. It's like the TV industry shoving 3-D needlessly at us because they needed a new "gimmick" to move merchandise. It wasn't a good idea, but it was the only one they had.
 
CmdrLaForge said:
Maybe you want to look again at the features.
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The features don't matter.

1) it doesn't really work without being connected to your phone.

2) your phone can do all of that much better.

Now you'll talk about fitness? There are solutions for that for much less.

What else? What's the feature that makes you just HAVE TO HAVE the apple watch.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Hilarious how so many "no talents" here are complaining about Ive's work as if they really understood the constraints he was working under.

How do I know this? Because if they were that talented they'd be working either for Apple or some other company designing rather than mouthing off on an anonymous site OR they'd be renowned enough to write an intellectual critique in a design publication and that critique would not start off @Ive or with some other insidious kiddie slang or photoshop.

Sooo much easier looking in from the outside.
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Wait a sec. Apple is trying to sell these products to us. Thus we are their natural and rightful critics.

Whether it took a lot of work or not is irrelevant from my perspective (as a customer):

Do I like the product or not? Here's why (comparisons, pros, cons, etc).

That's what we're meant to do here, I think: discuss these things. We also vote with our wallets, but that piece defeats the purpose of a forum, no?
 
chupachup said:
The features don't matter.

1) it doesn't really work without being connected to your phone.

2) your phone can do all of that much better.
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It doesn't work without your phone now. But who's to say it will always be that way. It took several generations of iPhone before we got OTA updates where you could really be free from iTunes on your PC.
 
chupachup said:
A smart watch can never be a smartphone. A smartphone basically replaces your laptop in many ways. A smart watch will never be a smartphone.

Are you really going to check all your messages, email, documents, answer and make calls from a watch?

Give me a break.
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No, that's not what I said at all. Although it's certainly possible if the screen is in front of your face (like Google Glass) or embedded in a contact lens or if your watch connects wirelessly to a screen on your desk, in your car, etc. The watch could also replace the phone if it has great voice to text and text to voice performance or if you can just think what you want to send and it types and sends it for you. I could keep going on. 10 years ago, many people thought it was ridiculous to "check email, documents" and so forth from a phone. Even after the iPhone was introduced, many thought that.

Of course smart watches can't do this now but they might in the future. We really can't imagine what technology will be like 25 years down the road (we can make good guesses but things depend on popularity).
 
chupachup said:
The features don't matter.

1) it doesn't really work without being connected to your phone.

2) your phone can do all of that much better.

Now you'll talk about fitness? There are solutions for that for much less.

What else? What's the feature that makes you just HAVE TO HAVE the apple watch.
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If the features don't matter and maybe the design neither then what exactly do we discuss here? To me this conversation doesn't matter anymore.
 
GoPro said:
No wonder the iPhone 6 rear design is bad (despite what many of you say), all his time went on this watch that nobody will buy!
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iPhone 6 rear design look great in person. At the end of the day, who cares about the back of the device since you will never see it anyway.
BTW, I was searching eBay for iPhone 6 case, and interesting, most of Clear case were gone from most sellers. So tell me that people hate the back and want to cover it with cases. I guess not.
 
DudeDad said:
It doubles as a coaster for your drink...
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I remember you guys making fun of the 5+ inch phones a couple of years ago. Now apple makes them so now they're cool. You have to have one. If they made a round watch that looked exactly like the 360 you'd be talking about how awesome round watches are.
 
bpeeps said:
If all his time went to the watch, he failed that more than the iPhone 6 rear.
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He failed so bad on the iPhone 6 rear. That's why only 4 million units were pre-ordered over 24 hrs. Everyone in competitors would love to have 10% of this failure.
 
CmdrLaForge said:
If the features don't matter and maybe the design neither then what exactly do we discuss here? To me this conversation doesn't matter anymore.
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People who want to show off to their friends and have $400 to blow on notifications for their wrists will buy one.
 
fallenjt said:
He failed so bad on the iPhone 6 rear. That's why only 4 million units were pre-ordered over 24 hrs. Everyone in competitors would love to have 10% of this failure.
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Apple people discover big screens.

Also people qualify for an upgrade now.

Doesn't make the iPhone 6 any better than it really is. It is just another iPhone with a bigger screen. Stolen design from the Nokia N9 from 3 years ago and the HTC ONE.
 
kdarling said:
The guy works for a company with essentially unlimited amounts of money, unlimited number of test models allowed, no time limits, and almost nobody to say no to him.

It doesn't get much less constrained than that.
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Except for those pesky laws of science and human factors that have to be solved. And no, not unlimited time limits -- the expectations of a wearable were mounting on Apple. It's why they previewed it before it was ready for sale. Clearly there is still work to do with the OS. Also not unlimited test models -- at some point Apple has to pick something that may not be the most desirable, but is workable, and go to market. Take a look at the original iPad as example. It's a brick by today's standards.

melendezest said:
Wait a sec. Apple is trying to sell these products to us. Thus we are their natural and rightful critics.

Whether it took a lot of work or not is irrelevant from my perspective (as a customer):

Do I like the product or not? Here's why (comparisons, pros, cons, etc).

That's what we're meant to do here, I think: discuss these things. We also vote with our wallets, but that piece defeats the purpose of a forum, no?
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Consumers can and should criticize a finished shipping product based on usability, desirability, etc. But that's not what's going on in this thread.

Much of the Apple Watch's design is based on the reality of current technology. For example, it's thick because it's not possible to jam all the sensors, battery and chip into a thin case. It's easy to criticise that because photoshop can produce beautiful, impossible, fantasies. But it's not fair game for criticism unless one has some expertise in the field. It's just Monday coaching here by people that don't have the chops to be a pro.
 
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