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James Cameron's 'Avatar'
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Your response is hilarious.
How dare Cameron, push a pro-environment movie! And worse imagine an evil fictional corporation! That's blasphemy!! We know all ficitonal corporations are wholesome and good and would never displace indigenous people in the pursuit of wealth. And the religious message- an alien humanoid race with a relationship with their planet (the Gaia concept), not an unusual premise in science fiction. The problem is after your kids become witches by watching Harry Potter, they are sure to burn in Hell, when they start worshiping an imaginary tree! Lol.
I think something is wrong with Cameron when he defames an entire group of fictional "Aliens" in a previous movie, and now he is promoting another group. What's his problem?
I just came back from seeing this in a regular movie theater, but in 3D.
I find that the story was fairly predictable, but good nonetheless.
The 3D was fairly decent. Wasn't too over the top, wasn't horrible. Somebody said that the "Holy Tree's" seeds were distracting, and yupp, that definitely distracted me a couple of times. Enough that I missed the subtitles once or twice.
Also, no headaches for me.
I took off my 3D glasses like twice, and both times, I didn't notice distortion.
Overall, a good plot-line, great animation, great movie. Must watch.
P.S. It didn't make the movie any more enjoyable when your parents are calling you every 5 minutes wondering how you're doing. (They're worried because I was with 3 other girls...)
Edit: Forgot to mention. Now that I've seen it in theaters, I want to download it (somehow), just so I can re-watch it to learn the language. I mean, I picked up a few words of the alien language while watching the movie, but the rest of the plot line pushed them out of my head. So, I came out of the theater with no words in my mind.
I find that the story was fairly predictable, but good nonetheless.
The 3D was fairly decent. Wasn't too over the top, wasn't horrible. Somebody said that the "Holy Tree's" seeds were distracting, and yupp, that definitely distracted me a couple of times. Enough that I missed the subtitles once or twice.
Also, no headaches for me.
I took off my 3D glasses like twice, and both times, I didn't notice distortion.
Overall, a good plot-line, great animation, great movie. Must watch.
P.S. It didn't make the movie any more enjoyable when your parents are calling you every 5 minutes wondering how you're doing. (They're worried because I was with 3 other girls...)
Edit: Forgot to mention. Now that I've seen it in theaters, I want to download it (somehow), just so I can re-watch it to learn the language. I mean, I picked up a few words of the alien language while watching the movie, but the rest of the plot line pushed them out of my head. So, I came out of the theater with no words in my mind.
Your response is hilarious.
How dare Cameron, push a pro-environment movie! And worse imagine an evil fictional corporation! That's blasphemy!! We know all ficitonal corporations are wholesome and good and would never displace indigenous people in the pursuit of wealth. And the religious message- an alien humanoid race with a relationship with their planet (the Gaia concept), not an unusual premise in science fiction. The problem is after your kids become witches by watching Harry Potter, they are sure to burn in Hell, when they start worshiping an imaginary tree! Lol.
I think something is wrong with Cameron when he defames an entire group of fictional "Aliens" in a previous movie, and now he is promoting another group. What's his problem?
Well I guess we all can't be naive and utterly ignorant of Camerons overtly portrayed political message and stance in the film... I wish I could live in the same world you're living in.
The plot seemed to be a flimsily constructed device to portray his pro-environmental, anti-oil, anti-military/ anti-war, anti-western message. I mean, I know that Hollywood is pretty liberal but this is something else entirely. It seems the studio would have benefitted more if theyd have just given him $50 million to make a big budgeted documentary.
Oh, wait. Three fourths of the people who went to see 'Avatar' wouldn't have gone to view a documentary on the same subjects because it wouldn't have the fancy visuals or fanciful plot needed to convey the same message to the masses who flocked to 'Avatar'.
The movie was fantastic! Some of you really need to chill out. Whatever your political bent, there is too much destruction in this world.
Frickin amazing film!!
Saw in last week in regular 2D and though it was brill, but then went and some it again yesterday in IMAX 3D in Auckland.
Superb film!!
Saw in last week in regular 2D and though it was brill, but then went and some it again yesterday in IMAX 3D in Auckland.
Superb film!!
^ I guess the commercials are going to have to start adding disclaimers like pharmaceutical advertisements do.
"Some people seeing this film reported .... Please see your physician if these symptoms persist for more than four hours."
"Some people seeing this film reported .... Please see your physician if these symptoms persist for more than four hours."
Have you been reading this persons posts...yes he is serious.
Seriously - What is the youngest age child you would consider appropriate for this film (for those who have seen it and have children)?
I don't have a child...I'm only 15; But, I'd say somewhere around 9ish. There were violent scenes, with gore, and when I was 9, I think I saw stuff like that, and I've turned out fine...(If I may say so myself)
10-12 years old. I believe its rated PG-13 so there is no graphic violence. There is a "love" scene but its more like kissing but thats it.
commonsensemedia.org rates it for age 13.
http://www.commonsensemedia.org/movie-reviews/avatar
People who can't enjoy this kind of movie are too paranoid about subtle or hidden messages designed to subvert their myopic view of the world instead of just enjoying the story. Evil corporation means the movie is anti-business? Come now. Using your logic a movie about a serial killer is anti-human. Saying "I can't see this movie because it is pro-environmental". Just what is that? Your not pro-environment? I mean, it's where you live. I imagine the majority of people can watch Avatar without worrying about imagined messages or labels.
That's right, they went to be entertained not to look for messages.
There are people out there who would try to use this (the individual who said he considered suicide) as a reason to censor, believe it.
That depends on the individual. I have a 9 year old Nephew who ate it up. No adverse effects noted!
Social commentary in a film? Who ever heard of such a thing!?
Yes, I'm sure the studio is crying, "why didn't we just invest $50 million in a documentary that would have appealed to a limited audience!?!??!"
Yeah, making a movie is serious business. Like big business... what's that thing you say this film is against? It's all just money, bro.
Why oh why do these forums attract drones of people who seem to only think things less than a quarter of the way through?
Allow me to take a moment to say how wrong I was about this.
(What was I thinking betting against a James Cameron action flick in IMAX 3D?! It was the huge budget that convinced me it was destined for failure...)
I loved the film.
its basicly about a cripple that turns into the 10 ft tall blue alien cat (american) "indian" jesus that saves the other alien cat "indians" from the big bad humans
its basicly about a cripple that turns into the 10 ft tall blue alien cat (american) "indian" jesus that saves the other alien cat "indians" from the big bad humans
As I've said before, the commentary is done so poorly in this film that it's painful to watch. I'm all for social commentary, but let's dress it up a little better.
Yes, I'm sure the studio is crying, "why didn't we just invest $50 million in a documentary that would have appealed to a limited audience!?!??!"
So I guess having an semblance of morals and a steadfast belief in a(n) ideal(s) is dead then. That's fine, but we could die with a little dignity. On the other hand are you familar with Participant Productions? Perhaps take a page out of their book... Not that their films are documentaries but at least they have a defined, relevant message that is presented with better story telling.
OH NOES, you mean we live in a capitalistic society?!?!
Right, and no one in Hollywood has ever been a hypocrite...Oh why oh why do these forums attract people so willing to buy whatever the flavor of the day /band wagon item/ trend of the day is? Just because all the sheep run off the cliff doesn't mean you have to as well
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I won't argue that the commentary was done poorly, I would agree it was written poorly.
So people aren't allowed to have pro-environmental, anti-oil, anti-military/ anti-war, anti-western ideals without being indignant?
So people can't disagree without parts of our society?OH NOES, you mean we live in a capitalistic society?!?!
Which hunt!Oh why oh why do these forums attract people so willing to buy whatever the flavor of the day /band wagon item/ trend of the day is? Just because all the sheep run off the cliff doesn't mean you have to as well
I was refering to the 'Death' of when film making stood for more than just making a quick profit.
Everyone is welcome to disagree but we could do it intelligently. Not, as I've said before, through a poorly constructed,flimsy plot device that a high schooler on his (or her) first acid trip could think up.
Nathan, this seems to be the crux of you're critique. I think you're letting values and suspicions cause some knee-jerk reactions and get in the way of enjoying a spectacle. You simply can't take a single movie, a single story and categorize it as having all of the anti-messages you listed unless someone is feeding you these ideas.
I'll highlight one example, anti-military: Avatar had mercenaries working for a corporation intent on harvesting a mineral at the expense of the locals. As this ever happened for real? Yes, The Black Hills, S. Dakota. When it comes to colonizing in the history of our world, this is more the standard, then the exception. So was this an message designed to pick on the military? How about The Abyss? It had a special ops soldier suffering from pressurization sickness and went a little psycho, was that anti-military? How about his partners who tried to stop him? And how about the colonial marines in Aliens? That appeared to me to be very pro military. And just what anti-message was buried in Terminator2- anti-nuclear holocaust? You need to relax.
Excuse me? Feeding me ideas? So I take it then you don't view movies and think that they, the film at hand, have social commentary that speak to current events/ issues taking place in the world? Anyone who watches a nightly 30 minute newscast on ABC, CBS or NBC would beg to differ with you. So if 'feeding you ideas' is suppose to mean that I can draw connections with what is presented in a film and what is taking place in the world, then yes, someone is feeding me ideas.
I'll highlight one example, anti-military: Avatar had mercenaries working for a corporation intent on harvesting a mineral at the expense of the locals. As this ever happened for real? Yes, The Black Hills, S. Dakota. When it comes to colonizing in the history of our world, this is more the standard, then the exception. So was this an message designed to pick on the military? How about The Abyss? It had a special ops soldier suffering from pressurization sickness and went a little psycho, was that anti-military? How about his partners who tried to stop him? And how about the colonial marines in Aliens? That appeared to me to be very pro military. And just what anti-message was buried in Terminator2- anti-nuclear holocaust? You need to relax.
So if I told you that the mercenaries represented the US Armed Forces and the mineral represented oil and the fictional planet represented the Middle East (Specfically Iraq if you haven't been keeping up with your nightly newscasts), you still wouldn't be able to think of a situation taking place today that has those elements? That this was still a purely fictional story with no relationship to anything taking place in the world today? Surely you cannot tell me that you don't see that symbolism. Now whether you agree with that symbolism is a different argument/ story but nonetheless Cameron has given us his viewpoint on the matter and he obviously against the Iraq Conflict and has a very low opinion of the Armed Forces serving there and he obviously believes that the US is in the Middle East solely for oil.
Perhaps another thing you have not considered is that some of us believe that we have a right to certian resources at hand so long as fair compensation is given, but that's a conversation better suited for the Politics and Religion forum I think.