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surprising interaction
I'm thinking the surprise is in the way the tablet interacts with the iPhone/iPod. Start with the rumor that some app developers are being asked to go full screen. Think about how difficult/dangerous it will be to play some of these games while you're flinging a 10 inch tablet around! So, what you'll want to do is run the game on the tablet but use your iPhone/Pod as the controller. Plus, there's the specter of an Apple TV update. So, if you can run your app on apple TV, same technology will allow you to control games on your big screen.
By the way, this is how Steve will make sure you absolutely NEED an iPhone/Pod in addition to the tablet. And why do you still need a MacBook? Because the tablet will be designed to run App Store apps only. Of course, now that there's a tablet, we ought to have some even more ass-kickier apps.
maybe you control it with your iPhone as a remote input device!
I'm thinking the surprise is in the way the tablet interacts with the iPhone/iPod. Start with the rumor that some app developers are being asked to go full screen. Think about how difficult/dangerous it will be to play some of these games while you're flinging a 10 inch tablet around! So, what you'll want to do is run the game on the tablet but use your iPhone/Pod as the controller. Plus, there's the specter of an Apple TV update. So, if you can run your app on apple TV, same technology will allow you to control games on your big screen.
By the way, this is how Steve will make sure you absolutely NEED an iPhone/Pod in addition to the tablet. And why do you still need a MacBook? Because the tablet will be designed to run App Store apps only. Of course, now that there's a tablet, we ought to have some even more ass-kickier apps.
If there is one thing we all know will be true: it will 100% definitely be tied to the App Store (or some iteration there of). Apple hasn't worked this hard, dedicating as much resources as they have to their ecosystem to release a tablet into the wild independent of said ecosystem. I would not be surprised if it were the most tethered to the iTunes ecosystem than any device to date.
Another thing we can almost be certain of is that there will be some sort of subsidized version tied to some cellular carrier. I suspect AT&T but one never knows. If so, I also suspect there will be an unsubsidized version.
In closing, I'd also like to restate (from earlier posts) that the tablet will represent the evolution of the MacBook Air, and branded accordingly. Tho part of me thinks their portable lineup just might drop the Air entirely and offer MacBooks & MacBook Pros - with the MB being a tablet and the MBP the more traditional laptop. But at most, I see a MacBook, MacBook Air (tab) & MacBook Pro lineup. We'll see.
doubt the last part given the new unibody plastic MacBooks.
I sure hope we aren't locked into the app store with this thing.
I sure hope we aren't locked into the app store with this thing.
To send Intel a message!
It is not simply a case of saving a few watts, because the Intel GPU does use significant power. Beyound that the intel GPU becomes useless as far as watts goes. With the 9400m Apple can make effective use of the chip via OpenCL even if the chip isn't being used for graphics at the moment. Last I knew intel didn't have a viable OpenCL solution for it's integrated GPUs.
In any event I don't believe it is total BS because Apple isn't the only unhappy customer. I've seen hints that a GPUless Arrandale is coming, maybe that is BS, it certainly is nothing more than a rumor. The thing is even PC makers are starting to realize that intel GPUs don't really meet the demands of the latest Windows releases. So yeah I can see Apple and a lot of other companies rejecting Arrandale as it is currently rumored to exist. Arrandale with an integrated intel GPU is in effect a very VERY LOW END solution.
Dave
Sometimes you need to whack your supliers with a hammer when they take a turn that is not compatible with your business plans.
It is not simply a case of saving a few watts, because the Intel GPU does use significant power. Beyound that the intel GPU becomes useless as far as watts goes. With the 9400m Apple can make effective use of the chip via OpenCL even if the chip isn't being used for graphics at the moment. Last I knew intel didn't have a viable OpenCL solution for it's integrated GPUs.
In any event I don't believe it is total BS because Apple isn't the only unhappy customer. I've seen hints that a GPUless Arrandale is coming, maybe that is BS, it certainly is nothing more than a rumor. The thing is even PC makers are starting to realize that intel GPUs don't really meet the demands of the latest Windows releases. So yeah I can see Apple and a lot of other companies rejecting Arrandale as it is currently rumored to exist. Arrandale with an integrated intel GPU is in effect a very VERY LOW END solution.
Dave
I would love for Apple to bring back the Newton name. It's a great one. Far better than the current iGizmo naming convention.
What?
7" does seem less ideal than 10", I mean if you're going to have a tablet, have a tablet for crying out loud. Then again, the iPT is pretty useful, and 7" would be even more portable than a 10". May be two models coming out... I guess we'll see.
7" does seem less ideal than 10", I mean if you're going to have a tablet, have a tablet for crying out loud. Then again, the iPT is pretty useful, and 7" would be even more portable than a 10". May be two models coming out... I guess we'll see.
i hope it has some kind of input other than using your fingers alone. it would be dope to be able to actually use this thing for taking notes. iphone does not cut it for writing anything over a few lines. i wouldn't be upset if there were optional use of a pen-like stylus with awesome handwriting recognition. if it could be like a portable tablet/notebook/diary that you could write in or pull up a keyboard. that would be my request.
Some of us just got new notebooks in June and would much prefer a new innovative device. Not that notebooks have anything at all to do with this discussion. Do you honestly think Apple have shut down development of all their other products because they're making a tablet?
Stylus anyone?
Maybe the thing will come with a stylus that the camera interacts with for gestures?
Maybe the thing will come with a stylus that the camera interacts with for gestures?
That would mean more law suits as HTC and I think also Nokia have patented a stylus that can be used on a capacitive screen.
Plus Microsoft has a ******** of patents about type and speech recognition because of OneNote and MS Speech Recognition Server.
Unlike most people think in my opinion the Apple Tablet will be more a fun device (like some new type of game console) than a real computer.
Eric-PTEK said:
Why not ask MS to make a compatibility mode for Safari that allows you to sell more licenses on a tablet device you can "sell the living crap out of." Generate an app to within the ecosystem specs. It's only a client.
Rocketman
Agreed.
Those hoping to run Creative Suite, or non App Store types of apps, move along. This will be more a consumer/entertainment/light lifting device than not. Web, mail, chat, social, games, a/v, eReader, etc.
I've been in the market for a portable. Holding out to see if this device can fill my needs.
i've got a feeling this thing will make Star Trek look quaint.....
So true. There was a time (in the original Star Trek) when the communicator was so futuristic. Now it looks so clunky compared to iphone, blackberry, bluetooth earpiece etc etc.
Here's how it works: You face Cupertino, hug the tablet, and concentrate your thoughts on what you want. The tablet does the rest.
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When Apple makes its tablet announcement, I think the most interesting part will be learning which companies they have made deals with. Mobile phone providers. Media producers and distributors. App developers. Hardware manufacturers. Retail store chains. Providers of web-based services.
There are lots of possibilities, and we haven't had rumors or leaks to give us any certainty about who Apple is partnering with.
As I said, it may very well be MS's issue but who holds the cards and how seriously does Apple want to be taken?
Look at this from a business standpoint. In the corporate world, IF Apple wants to play then they need to fix it.
Stop looking this from the Apple ra-ra cheerleading outlook. No business person is stupid enough to say "Oh if THEY fixed THEIR problem I could sell X million more units"
A business person will say "We need to fix whatever problem, so I can sell X million more units"
So either Apple doesn't want to play in the field, or there is no business case to pursue fixing it.
I personally think BB's are piles, I cannot stand them, their messaging architecture is ancient, requires insanely high licensing fee's, etc...
But to someone it makes business sense so they do it.
If fixing the asp.net issues will sell Apple more units and generate more revenue then in who's best interest is it to fix the problem, regardless of where the blame may lie?
It may very well be Apple could care less, thats fine, and thats the reason they will not get into the corporate market.
It is that simple.
"Surprised at how you interact with the tablet?"
I apologize if this has already been posted on this thread - but I think I can guess what the 'surprising interaction' will be.
I seem to remember a patent application by apple a while back (sorry I couldn't find it) for rear-touch input. In other words, you hold the screen, and behind the LCD is touch sensitive. (This also leaves the options of two hands on the back, tip of your nose on the front, for input).
In all seriousness, I think this is the most likely scenario. And the more I hold my 7" cardboard cutout in my hands (with hand-drawn apple logo and dot for the camera), the more sense this makes to me. Imagine - playing a game and your thumbs don't get in the way of your viewing!
Of course, typing I think should be in the front still.
Ok - that's all.
I apologize if this has already been posted on this thread - but I think I can guess what the 'surprising interaction' will be.
I seem to remember a patent application by apple a while back (sorry I couldn't find it) for rear-touch input. In other words, you hold the screen, and behind the LCD is touch sensitive. (This also leaves the options of two hands on the back, tip of your nose on the front, for input).
In all seriousness, I think this is the most likely scenario. And the more I hold my 7" cardboard cutout in my hands (with hand-drawn apple logo and dot for the camera), the more sense this makes to me. Imagine - playing a game and your thumbs don't get in the way of your viewing!
Of course, typing I think should be in the front still.
Ok - that's all.
iMac style docking station
I think this tablet will include iMac style docking station to use KB, mouse, external HD etc (wireless or wired).
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/03/apple-creating-imac-like-docking-station/
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/01/apple-patents-idiosyncratic-docking-station.ars
I think this tablet will include iMac style docking station to use KB, mouse, external HD etc (wireless or wired).
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/01/03/apple-creating-imac-like-docking-station/
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/01/apple-patents-idiosyncratic-docking-station.ars
That's the most intelligent post so far. No need to apologize. It's a good possibility. For gaming, the fingers-in-the-way problem of the iPhone kills much enjoyment.
I disagree. Many of those uses cases you named are used by serious computer users, just not graphic designers or film makers. Can it run CS? No, but it could run Acorn or Pixelmator. Can it run Final Cut? No, but it could run iMovie or other iLife apps.
Right now Apple can already throw in a dual core ARM processor running at 1.2GHZ. Five years from it would be far more powerful. I view the tablet as possibly an eventual laptop replacement. This is the reason why I don't want it solely tied to the App Store. It could signal the beginning of the end of open computing at Apple.
As to your earlier post, they'd have to think I'm insane if I'll pay $60/month for 3G. If it is offered I would hope it is at a drastically reduced price.