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Jobs says Signal Strength a "non issue"
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I agree with millsy: slim to none. I'd bet that the design will change for the next iPhone iteration, though. I do think it's an issue, and not a small one, for a company that prides itself on technology that "just works."
True, but for the $700 unsubsidized cost of the phone, it should at least be able to connect to its (only) network flawlessly. After all, without a network the device isn't fully useable.
As for myself, I'm getting the phone because I always get a case anyway, so this problem won't affect me. Even with its flaw it will be a big improvement over my 2nd generation iPhone. But it's such a simple problem to understand, I'm shocked that the iPhone made it into production with it. There must have been enormous pressure to finalize the device. Jobs at least could have said something like "We know there's a problem and we're working on it." But to completely blow it off isn't good PR. For many people, it is an issue. And this is supposed to be the Rolls Royce of phones.
I'm wondering why they didn't just keep the antennae inside the phone. Now that the entire body is glass, signal blockage wouldn't be as serious an issue. Even if there were a thin glass coating around the stainless steel, so the band was visible under the surface, that would have completely eliminated the problem.
iPhone 4 has so many improvements, it sad to see it take such a leap backwards over one (very important) issue.
(And P.S. -- $30 for the bumpers is extortion. Apple should price them at $5 and include a free black one with the phone.)
agreed, if one does not like their iphone 4, just return it. stop whining.
i don't have issues at all with my iphone 4. and as matter of facts, it is far far better than my 3G in every aspect. display is super, battery is super, network response is super.
if ppl want to have non signal issue, please find a POTS phone instead of cell phone or voip phone.
No matter how cool apple gadgets are, if they don't make this right by a recall and redesign. I will never buy another one of their products again. This is a phone! People should be able to hold it in any hand any way and make a phone call.
Outraged by this answer.
Outraged by this answer.
i love steve jobs. i love him even more now i know he is a marxist!
"its better to have loved and lost (an iphone) then to never have loved at all (an iphone)"
This is somewhat of a serious problem. It never happened on my iPhone 3G, but it happened to me several times this morning on my iPhone 4, when using it while sitting on the couch.
For many postures, the most natural position to hold the phone in happens to be the same position that causes the signal to go out. Unnaturally moving ones hand into an awkward position is not really an option.
*cringe*
For many postures, the most natural position to hold the phone in happens to be the same position that causes the signal to go out. Unnaturally moving ones hand into an awkward position is not really an option.
*cringe*
to be honest, you have to give your phone a vice like grip in order for that to happen. im a righty so i hold my phone in my left hand. I havent noticed any drop in reception.
his email response while short and to the point...hehe is so typical steve
his email response while short and to the point...hehe is so typical steve
So now we have to be wary of where we hold the phone, instead of just using the dang thing, we have to carefully place our fingers in just the right spot in order to do so.
Well, to everyone who has an iPhone 4, just use a Sharpie to place to markings showing where you should hold your phone so as not to interfere with reception.
There. Problem solved.
Well, to everyone who has an iPhone 4, just use a Sharpie to place to markings showing where you should hold your phone so as not to interfere with reception.
There. Problem solved.
Cerebal Palsy user
Hey,
I sent the following email to Steve Jobs regarding reception, he needs to understand how some dont have " many other ways to hold it"
Steve,
This reception thing is a HUGE problem. Sure, maybe people can hold the phone in a different way, but the world has lefties too! Some leftys like myself have CP(Cerebral Palsy) on our right side, cannot use right hand to hold the iPhone that I want. Do you expect me to settle for a 3GS? No! I want a 4! And maybe want to show off my phone instead of putting it in a clunky case. I can use a 3GS but not the 4 without problem? I thought accessibility was a huge thing here. Guess not .
Cole.
Hey,
I sent the following email to Steve Jobs regarding reception, he needs to understand how some dont have " many other ways to hold it"
Steve,
This reception thing is a HUGE problem. Sure, maybe people can hold the phone in a different way, but the world has lefties too! Some leftys like myself have CP(Cerebral Palsy) on our right side, cannot use right hand to hold the iPhone that I want. Do you expect me to settle for a 3GS? No! I want a 4! And maybe want to show off my phone instead of putting it in a clunky case. I can use a 3GS but not the 4 without problem? I thought accessibility was a huge thing here. Guess not .
Cole.
Some people on these forums said they were buying a bumper, or that they already did, and it solved the issue, and it wasn't a big deal. Apparently a major design flaw isn't a big deal to the fanboys, and $30 for a 10mm wide piece of
plastic is worth it. With my 3GS on Edge, I can drop the bars down to 2 bars, but still use cellular things. For it to happen and you get no service, its is a issue Steve. I've never owned a phone that can't make calls because you put it in your hand, and put it by your ear, and I never will. Huge fail Apple.Lets hope that a poster was correct, and Apple senior customer rep said the engineering team is furiously fixing the issue and will release an update by Monday.
WOOOOOOW!
"Forget about our SERIOUS design flaw you peon. I can't be bothered with such trite things as usability and real-world functionality."
What an absolute ass, and a TOTAL design failure on Apple's part. What a bunch of clueless narcissists.
Jobs: "Let them eat cake"
Exactly, if mines does that I will return it for a full refund and remind them that its a non-issue.
The issue is already on the front pages of the New York Times and Wall Street Journal. And please remember that Walt Mossberg alluded to it too. It's going to become a huge issue fast. Apple will have to capitulate. You wait and see.
One thing we all can agree on, Apple fanboys are a very loud bunch!
One thing we all can agree on, Apple fanboys are a very loud bunch!
BTW - and yes, I'm being snarky here. And NOT that I really care - because I don't. But I find it interesting that people took potshots at me for posting and cried BS and never bothered to apologize or anything remote. This "community" is lacking is some aspects of community.
If this were a non-issue, then I don't think Apple Senior Customer Service Reps would be giving out free bumper cases like candy when you call them about this. I just called up and requested one and got it no problem.
Agree 100% with SJ, it's a non-issue. I don't have dropped calls, slow data or ANYTHING bad happen when I hold my phone. I guess that might be because I'm not trying to get my signal to drop with a Vulcan death grip.
I was going to buy a bumper anyway so even if there was an issue it's no big deal. Get a life people and chill out. I'll tell you what, I'll trade a 3GS for an iPhone 4. Any takers? I thought so.
I was going to buy a bumper anyway so even if there was an issue it's no big deal. Get a life people and chill out. I'll tell you what, I'll trade a 3GS for an iPhone 4. Any takers? I thought so.