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Jobs says Signal Strength a "non issue"

Return your iPhone and wait until you can buy (and return) your iPod Touch.

Unable to make calls while holding your phone? Dropping calls? Try the iPod Touch!

This is how you generate interest for the new iPod Touch! (If the years of expensive contract was not enough). Although, we might have to wait for many of the iPhone 4's feature to appear on the Touch.
 
Alonzo84 said:
How so?
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Like Figbash said... you paid $299 + (monthly fee * number of months in contract).

Yes you also get minutes, texts and data for that amount; but you pay a LOT more than what the minutes, texts and data would cost by themselves, without the iPhone.

It's the same as putting down a deposit on a house or a car and then paying the rest off in instalments. You didn't get the house or the car for the price of the deposit. You pay the whole price!
 
Similar Problems with 3G and 3GS in the Past

According to this article the 3G and 3GS had similar Problems in the beginning.

Can anyone confirm that?

Update: Same Problem with 3G in the beginning - See the Video on the bottom of this article
 
MacJones said:
The iPhone 4 has been a failure from the start. First it was leaked, then it was leaked again in white. Then there was a massive fail with pre-orders between the servers slowing down to a stand still to AT&T having privacy issues. Then the phones gets to people's door up to two days early (not bad if you were one of the those people). Then problems with the screens having yellow spots. And finally this MAJOR problem with the antenna. Oh yeah and that whole issue that we're still stuck with AT&T.
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I wonder if the release was hurried before it was really ready because of the leak.
 
Alonzo84 said:
My bill is the same regardless of the phone I use.
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exactly, Here in the Uk if we buy the phone for £500 we're not ties to a network and can get a sim only plan with unlimted txt's, unlimited data and 600mins for around $35 a month

How much do you pay monthly?
 
swanseamike said:
exactly, Here in the Uk if we buy the phone for £500 we're not ties to a network and can get a sim only plan with unlimted txt's, unlimited data and 600mins for around $35 a month

How much do you pay monthly?
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You can also do this stateside, but then you don't get the lower subsidized price. So you get it for, what? $500, $600...not sure exactly. But some people do that if they want, or if they aren't upgrade eligible.
 
br0adband said:
So you acknowledge there is or could be a potential design flaw with the iPhone 4, and yet you give Apple that pass I've been speaking of in the same sentence. This is entirely the wrong attitude to have.

It's not a non-issue, you're simply choosing to brush it aside and cover it up, literally, even in spite of so many people having this problem and more by the minute discovering they too are experiencing this wonderful new and highly innovative defect.

Why are you and so many others letting Apple get by with this, or planning to just let it slide right on by considering that so far the evidence is quite overwhelming considering (and as I posted a few pages back I've got my own firsthand proof and I live almost within tossing distance of a cell site)? I don't get how people can just say "Oh well, it's not perfect, who cares... I'll just cover it up and be done with it."

The "cover up" then becomes a perfectly formed double entendre and realistically it's just inexcusable defective by design.

Want proof that Apple knew about this and it's a defect in design and application? Go find me a "bump case" by anybody else so far... does anyone else make such a thing, basically a rubber or latex or whatever material "cover up" specifically for the part of the phone that is causing the issue itself? Anybody else out there making a "rubber band" that doesn't actually protect the phone's front or back in any way? I sure as hell haven't been able to find one, that's Apple only from what I can tell.

It's a hardware issue, it's not software, and it sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with the carrier either. Seriously, the only purpose for the "bump case" is to stop the skin-on-metal contact - it does nothing else for the iPhone 4 at all and only serves to address that one now-very-well-known defect.

"It's the phone, stupid..." should now be the rally cry for those of us are experiencing this problem on this grand innovative mistake. Leave it to Apple to discover entirely new ways of doing nothing new at all and selling it precisely as new to those that don't quite get it.

Disclaimer: while I have an iPhone 4 as noted in previous posts, I didn't pay for it out of pocket - it was purchased for me as a gift but, that's not going to stop me from returning it.
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Okay for me it's a non-issue.

Why? Because, regardless of the antenna attenuation defect, if you want to call it that, I am going to cover my phone in a case.

Why do you paint your house? Why do you wear a helmet when riding a motorbike? Why do you use a seatbelt when driving?

Because this protects. I want to protect my valuables. I can't afford to damage or scratch my phone. A co-worker of mine uses an Otter case on his phone because getting it wet is a concern of his.

For me a phone that works its what counts. Cover phone - problem solved.

I saw this coming. Bare metal and body parts have strange effects on signal reception, so I am not surprised. This is a lesson I learned from early childhood. When playing with the TV antenna. Please do not be so naive.

I will agree completely that this is also annoying. However I can not throw in the towel over an annoyance. Heck I still use Windows.

I am happy Apple put the antenna on the "outside" or made it "massive" in comparison to the norm. There is a definite improvement here if the user knows how to use their phone.

I am going to wallow in improved signal strength while covering my phone.

Come on In-Case hurry up.
 
danilko1 said:
I saw this coming. Bare metal and body parts have strange effects on signal reception, so I am not surprised. This is a lesson I learned from early childhood. When playing with the TV antenna. Please do not be so naive.
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Wow I feel stupid for expecting the antenna on my iPhone to work whilst I was holding the device. I feel like such a fool. No wait, you are.
 
swanseamike said:
exactly, Here in the Uk if we buy the phone for £500 we're not ties to a network and can get a sim only plan with unlimted txt's, unlimited data and 600mins for around $35 a month

How much do you pay monthly?
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...And if you don't use many minutes or send many texts you can still get a plan with unlimited data for half that. So for some people it works out cheaper than a contract, and a lot more flexible.
 
danilko1 said:
Okay for me it's a non-issue.

Why? Because, regardless of the antenna attenuation defect, if you want to call it that, I am going to cover my phone in a case.

Why do you paint your house? Why do you wear a helmet when riding a motorbike? Why do you use a seatbelt when driving?

Because this protects. I want to protect my valuables. I can't afford to damage or scratch my phone. A co-worker of mine uses an Otter case on his phone because getting it wet is a concern of his.

For me a phone that works its what counts. Cover phone - problem solved.

I saw this coming. Bare metal and body parts have strange effects on signal reception, so I am not surprised. This is a lesson I learned from early childhood. When playing with the TV antenna. Please do not be so naive.

I will agree completely that this is also annoying. However I can not throw in the towel over an annoyance. Heck I still use Windows.

I am happy Apple put the antenna on the "outside" or made it "massive" in comparison to the norm. There is a definite improvement here if the user knows how to use their phone.

I am going to wallow in improved signal strength while covering my phone.

Come on In-Case hurry up.
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Great example of an Apple fanboi, covering up a faulty phone with some cheap plastic should be everyones approach to fixing this. The phones do not work as intended. As has already been said, if Apple wanted us to have to use the bumper - make it part of the phone.
 
peterjcat said:
Like Figbash said... you paid $299 + (monthly fee * number of months in contract).

Yes you also get minutes, texts and data for that amount; but you pay a LOT more than what the minutes, texts and data would cost by themselves, without the iPhone.

It's the same as putting down a deposit on a house or a car and then paying the rest off in instalments. You didn't get the house or the car for the price of the deposit. You pay the whole price!
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I understand what you're both saying, but it has nothing to do with the iPhone. When I buy any phone, the phone is paid off. My monthly bill just reflects the service, they don't add what I saved by extending my contract to my monthly bill.
 
ReflexReact said:
Great example of an Apple fanboi, covering up a faulty phone with some cheap plastic should be everyones approach to fixing this. The phones do not work as intended. As has already been said, if Apple wanted us to have to use the bumper - make it part of the phone.
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Well said that man.
 
PCWORLD seems to have made the same conclusion as I have (in regards to it not being a "consistent" issue, although it still is a serious flaw).

At one testing location, this seemed to make no difference: I got equal connection speeds when I held the phone in my left hand and when I tested with it sitting on the tabletop.

But in the remaining four locations, I saw dramatic speed decreases. In three of my testing locations, connection speeds dropped to zero or near zero when I had my hand over the lower left edge of the phone. The number of connection bars showing dropped from five out of five to just one or two out of five. I also noticed that the latency numbers—the time it takes the speed test to send data up to a network server and back—shot upwards into thousands of milliseconds. In the remaining location, download speed was cut to a third of that measured when the phone was lying on the table with the antenna untouched, and the upload speed was decreased by half.
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Same exact results I had when I started to test this issue out.
 
swanseamike said:
exactly, Here in the Uk if we buy the phone for £500 we're not ties to a network and can get a sim only plan with unlimted txt's, unlimited data and 600mins for around $35 a month

How much do you pay monthly?
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I pay $139 a month for a family plan with two lines, 750 anytime minutes, unlimited text for both and unlimited data for one. Thats including a 15% discount. Quite ridiculous if you ask me.
 
danilko1 said:
Why do you paint your house? Why do you wear a helmet when riding a motorbike? Why do you use a seatbelt when driving?
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What the hell does any of that have to do with this?

danilko1 said:
I want to protect my valuables. I can't afford to damage or scratch my phone. A co-worker of mine uses an Otter case on his phone because getting it wet is a concern of his.
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Thanks for the anecdote. I can afford to damage or scratch my phone, now what?

danilko1 said:
Please do not be so naive.
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Being naive is not understanding the point.

danilko1 said:
Heck I still use Windows.
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Pointless bashing.

danilko1 said:
if the user knows how to use their phone.
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Patronizing.

All I got from your post was "just buy a case and shutup." That's not how it works bud. I shouldn't have to spend more money to make my phone work the way it's supposed to.
 
Look! No bars!

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Alonzo84 said:
I understand what you're both saying, but it has nothing to do with the iPhone. When I buy any phone, the phone is paid off. My monthly bill just reflects the service, they don't add what I saved by extending my contract to my monthly bill.
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yes they charge you $300 for the fone and say its yours but if you cancled you service the ext day they would do you for a two year service fee and in doing so recoop the cost of the phone they "gave" you for $300

in Australia our iPhone are not locked to a network, and thus to get one we pay over a grand AU

if we want it for free we go to Vodafone and pay 60 70 80 a month and have o pay that for 2 year thus paying for the fone and the service - you never get the fone for free!

In my case i pay voda 100 / m (so 2400 over two year) in return free iphone and unlimited calls and text :) i win coz i call like 24/4 nation and inernational! haha
 
Ow is Apple gonna play it like this!? A Big F Y to Steve. (hope you read it)

ITS A BIG DESIGN FLAW SO FIX IT.

Everybody else bring your Iphone back or sue Apple if they are being an ass because their excuse is unbelievable.

"Hold it in the other hand" how about I smash it to the ground with that other hand :apple:
 
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