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Jobs says Signal Strength a "non issue"

Steve Jobs and Tony Hayward go to a bar...

Actually, before writing that email, Steve Jobs had a nice time sailing with his friend, Tony. Then he had a few phone calls cut off, but he was delighted as they were with people whom Jobs didn't like at all. Tony was also thrilled to have his life back.
 
Alonzo84 said:
I understand what you're both saying, but it has nothing to do with the iPhone. When I buy any phone, the phone is paid off. My monthly bill just reflects the service, they don't add what I saved by extending my contract to my monthly bill.
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Yeah but they do, at least internally -- there must be plans available with similar levels of service (minutes, text, data) that have lower monthly fees and are packaged with cheaper phones or no phone at all -- if not from AT&T then from other carriers.

If your current plan really is the cheapest possible way to get exactly the minutes, text and data that you need, with or without a phone, then you're right: there's no additional avoidable cost to you over the $299. But that also represents a massive market failure and a gross economic inefficiency, which of course I'm not for one second ruling out.
 
DaftDrunk said:
What the hell does any of that have to do with this?



Thanks for the anecdote. I can afford to damage or scratch my phone, now what?



Being naive is not understanding the point.



Pointless bashing.



Patronizing.

All I got from your post was "just buy a case and shutup." That's not how it works bud. I shouldn't have to spend more money to make my phone work the way it's supposed to.
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Big-ups, Daft.
 
I found a solution for this so called "non-issue" and contacted Apple, asking if they want to buy my patent technology – I actually filed a patent for this yesterday. No reply yet of course!

Note: I am about to sell 50% of my stock – worth 40 million dollar – and purchase a Greek isle, to turn it into my very own tax free place.
 
ReflexReact said:
Great example of an Apple fanboi, covering up a faulty phone with some cheap plastic should be everyones approach to fixing this. The phones do not work as intended. As has already been said, if Apple wanted us to have to use the bumper - make it part of the phone.
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The user sees things the iPhone offers him that the Android or Blackberry phones don't.

The user is not affected by this issue, considering he's using the case.

As such, he's making the right call. No one should give a damn about hypothetical issues. If the user is going to cover the iPhone in a case, then that problem is solved, and he has all the other remaining features that made him choose Apple over HTC/BB. If this issue isn't going to affect him, why should he not buy the iPhone? Because of how incorrect Apple was? He's buying a Phone and all its possibilities, not moral comforting by a big tech company.

Was it correct by Apple? Not at all. I severely dislike their attitude. Is it a serious issue? Hell yeah. Will I still buy the iPhone? Of course. It doesn't affect me, as I was going to put it in a case before this thing anyway, and I live in a place with great reception anyway (where issues are far lessened).

Every phone has its issues. The Nexus One had a reception issue, the EVO has laughable battery life and "poppable" screens, etc. The iPhone 4's issue is big, no doubt. But more importantly, it was poorly handled by Apple. Still doesn't take all its other advantages away.


Also, if you don't want to find another way of holding the phone, or getting a case (both of which are perfectly understandable; and Apple has no right of telling you to do so), then it's simple. Just don't buy the iPhone. Already got one? Return it. Done, you have no more reception problems and you can hold whichever phone you have now whichever way you like.

See? A complex problem with a simple solution.
 
Blues003 said:
The user sees things the iPhone offers him that the Android or Blackberry phones don't.

The user is not affected by this issue, considering he's using the case.

As such, he's making the right call. No one should give a damn about hypothetical issues. If the user is going to cover the iPhone in a case, then that problem is solved, and he has all the other remaining features that made him choose Apple over HTC/BB. If this issue isn't going to affect him, why should he not buy the iPhone? Because of how incorrect Apple was? He's buying a Phone and all its possibilities, not moral comforting by a big tech company.

Was it correct by Apple? Not at all. I severely dislike their attitude. Is it a serious issue? Hell yeah. Will I still buy the iPhone? Of course. It doesn't affect me, as I was going to put it in a case before this thing anyway, and I live in a place with great reception anyway (where issues are far lessened).

Every phone has its issues. The Nexus One had a reception issue, the EVO has laughable battery life and "poppable" screens, etc. The iPhone 4's issue is big, no doubt. But more importantly, it was poorly handled by Apple. Still doesn't take all its other advantages away.


Also, if you don't want to find another way of holding the phone, or getting a case (both of which are perfectly understandable; and Apple has no right of telling you to do so), then it's simple. Just don't buy the iPhone. Already got one? Return it. Done, you have no more reception problems and you can hold whichever phone you have now whichever way you like.

See? A complex problem with a simple solution.
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How about you go away and come back and comment when you've actually got an iPhone 4. And it doesn't work properly.
 
peterjcat said:
Yeah but they do, at least internally -- there must be plans available with similar levels of service (minutes, text, data) that have lower monthly fees and are packaged with cheaper phones or no phone at all -- if not from AT&T then from other carriers.

If your current plan really is the cheapest possible way to get exactly the minutes, text and data that you need, with or without a phone, then you're right: there's no additional avoidable cost to you over the $299. But that also represents a massive market failure and a gross economic inefficiency, which of course I'm not for one second ruling out.
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I have been with AT&T for four years now and always renew my contract to save on the cost of the phone. I have had the RAZR and two Blackberry phones before I got the 3GS and the service fees have always been the same. I haven't noticed any hidden charges on my bill that could be related to the extra cost of the phone, but they could be very well sneak it in there somewhere.
 
Does this remind anyone of the old joke:

Patient. Doctor when I poke myself just here it hurts!

Doctor. Well don't poke yourself just there.


Hmmm if only everything in life could be this simple.
 
wrkactjob said:
Does this remind anyone of the old joke:

Patient. Doctor when I poke myself just here it hurts!

Doctor. Well don't poke yourself just there.

Hmmm if only everything in life could be this simple.
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Yep. 'cept this anecdote was already mentioned several times this thread. I believe last it was "It hurts when I hit myself with this hammer..."

Do your research, son. :)
 
citrate said:
Wow I feel stupid for expecting the antenna on my iPhone to work whilst I was holding the device. I feel like such a fool. No wait, you are.
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6 of one, half a dozen of another. You were offered a solution you can take it or leave it.

I do agree you expected it to work as shown in the images. I would too. But it's too late for that. This is a real physics issue here and it's not worth making Apple go back and fix it.

It's nit-picking.

Remember the Hubble? They didn't pull it out of the sky or send it back. They just did something different and ended up with something better in the long run.

We are all human and perfection is to be anticipated but when we can't have it, it shouldn't be a deal breaker, which I am hearing so many people cry.
 
danilko1 said:
Regarding this statement, the law is irrelevant. We don't need a law to show that helmets save lives. It just took a law to make sure people followed common sense.
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But it's my life. I wear a helmet everytime I ride. I feel like I would be stupid not to. But it should be my choice. That's what freedom is about. Research also shows that if we all drive 5 mph then deaths would drop 2000%. Let's make that a law too. Less government is good.
 
Robertopod said:
But it's my life. I wear a helmet everytime I ride. I feel like I would be stupid not to. But it should be my choice. That's what freedom is about. Research also shows that if we all drive 5 mph then deaths would drop 2000%. Let's make that a law too. Less government is good.
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Have we really resorted to motorcyclist law on this thread? I mean, c'mon. ;)

(but good point!)
 
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