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Judge Voids Nearly Half of Apple's $1 Billion Judgment Against Samsung, Calls for New Trial to Settle Revised Damages
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Most of the time outsourced corporate law firms work on a fixed price contract. Representing Apple gives more publicity.
She could have awarded $0.
- Jury is tainted.
- Few patents are no longer valid or under review by USPTO.
- Samsung didn't copy intentionally. Based on this 3x was awarded.
$300 Million is reasonable. She did award more than Apple deserves.
I'm supporting apple or samsung in this case.
But basically told me the legal system is just a bunch of whiners. And if you whine enough, apparently people will just budge. Not saying apple is right and Samsung is wrong.
But didn't a group and jury give apple a 1 billion dollar settlement. So basically, that decision (which is the point of a legal system, to take two parties to battle for a X settlement which is based on a panel of people Who don't get a dime of this) is just a waste of time.
I'm just saying if I was jury and I award a person X dollars after months of trials, away form my job, crappy pay and then a year later Judge is like...nope that's blah blah...I"m gonna make it X/4. Wtf?!! Why am did I even waste my time!!? WTF!!!
And for all the people/readers that read all this crap. WTF!!!!???? its like reading a anime saying GOKU has yellow hair and then a year later say. you know what...i change my mind, its blue now.
But basically told me the legal system is just a bunch of whiners. And if you whine enough, apparently people will just budge. Not saying apple is right and Samsung is wrong.
But didn't a group and jury give apple a 1 billion dollar settlement. So basically, that decision (which is the point of a legal system, to take two parties to battle for a X settlement which is based on a panel of people Who don't get a dime of this) is just a waste of time.
I'm just saying if I was jury and I award a person X dollars after months of trials, away form my job, crappy pay and then a year later Judge is like...nope that's blah blah...I"m gonna make it X/4. Wtf?!! Why am did I even waste my time!!? WTF!!!
And for all the people/readers that read all this crap. WTF!!!!???? its like reading a anime saying GOKU has yellow hair and then a year later say. you know what...i change my mind, its blue now.
All things considered, we don't actually know if she's allied with North Korea or South Korea yet. Right now it seems like she's a Samsung sleeper agent, considering all the patent lawsuits and stealing all of Apple's great innovations and crushing their artistic spirit at all.
...but what if it's all just a clever ruse in a much longer game? A smoke screen to throw us all off her scent while she secretly implants Juche ideas into the national psyche through patent lawsuits? What if? WHAT IF?
Either way, we should be suspicious of her. Anyone seen her birth certificate?
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One of the base truisms of the legal system is that the squeaky wheel does tend to get the grease.
It worked for me.
Actually, she didn't overturn the jury's ruling in terms of liability. She said that they erred in how they determined damages. Likely the next jury will award a different number (probably somewhat lower), but they can't rule that Samsung didn't infringe on those patents, because that matter has already been decided and upheld.
At the end of the day, what Apple really wanted was an injunction. Whether they get $600 million, $1 billion, or $1.5 billion doesn't really matter given that both companies make several times that amount in profits every quarter. A sales injunction that sticks would give Apple more leverage in working out a final settlement.
Or she's a triple agent - just like you - and really works for Microsoft and this is her way of weakening the enemy!
I agree to a point. More importantly - they wanted their patents validated in a court case so moving forward there was legal precedent - which is a powerful asset.
If one wants to talk about a real settlement involving real money, it would be something on the order of this one:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/17/business/fi-qualcomm17
A $2.3 billion USD (I think it might have actually been in Euros) one-time payment from Nokia to Qualcomm. Now THAT'S real money. And look at the directions the two companies have gone in since 2008.
As I said after the verdict, what exactly is Apple's goal for victory over Samsung?
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As far as licensing patents goes, Microsoft has been far more successful suing and forcing settlements because they can license a concrete technology, the exFAT filesystem.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/17/business/fi-qualcomm17
A $2.3 billion USD (I think it might have actually been in Euros) one-time payment from Nokia to Qualcomm. Now THAT'S real money. And look at the directions the two companies have gone in since 2008.
As I said after the verdict, what exactly is Apple's goal for victory over Samsung?
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As far as licensing patents goes, Microsoft has been far more successful suing and forcing settlements because they can license a concrete technology, the exFAT filesystem.
Heh.
Don't worry, Judge Lucy Koh will predictably be "hired" by Samsung as a special counsel after this trial is done. Exactly like what happened to that Apple-hating British judge that forced Apple to make a public apology. He works for Samsung now. No surprise that he was a pro-Samsung confederate all along.
chillax everyone~!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
besides this case in the USA, apple didn't see much success elsewhere in the world. and now this is under scrutiny too. so who know how much samsung will end up paying apple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
besides this case in the USA, apple didn't see much success elsewhere in the world. and now this is under scrutiny too. so who know how much samsung will end up paying apple.
At the end of the day....
Apple will impose its own punishment outside the legal system in any entity. How many other Samsung businesses benefited in the Apple supply chain? Many. And they will all be systematically cut off over time. That lost business will cost Samsung much more than any awarded settlement.
Apple will impose its own punishment outside the legal system in any entity. How many other Samsung businesses benefited in the Apple supply chain? Many. And they will all be systematically cut off over time. That lost business will cost Samsung much more than any awarded settlement.
It'll be interesting if after all of this Apple gets more money than the original judgment. Samsung won't be able to mount a better case than before...the bowl of water as design influence will be just as ridiculous as it was before. Windows phones, which have a clearly differentiated UI will be more prevalent and there may be another popular phone design company that decides to think on it's own about how to design their phone.
Heh.
Don't worry, Judge Lucy Koh will predictably be "hired" by Samsung as a special counsel after this trial is done. Exactly like what happened to that Apple-hating British judge that forced Apple to make a public apology. He works for Samsung now. No surprise that he was a pro-Samsung confederate all along.
Right. He's an Apple hater. That must be it. It couldn't possibly be that he (as did others) found Apple to be in contempt of the actual judgement when they first published their ad. No no no.. that can't be it.
And of course - Judge Koh must be on the payroll too. Because clearly every single judge is up for sale.
Are you familiar with Occam's Razor? Go look it up after you've taken off your tin foil hat.
You are wrong, but it's okay because it's simply not common knowledge.
It's like how kids these days mistakenly think Halo pioneered the FPS game genre.
Apple didn't take the UI design from Xerox, only the idea of using a graphical UI. Much of the things we take for granted like direct manipulation of windows, drag & drop, typed-clipboards, and stuff didn't exist in the Xerox Alto. A description of how to move a window on the Xerox is here : http://www.mackido.com/Interface/ui_history.html
Besides, Xerox was paid using pre-IPO Apple stock as part of the agreement. So the Mac UI design was definitely not stolen nor copied.
While most people assume iOS mostly copied Android's notification menu, they don't realize that Android's notifications menu is mostly a copy of the Windows Mobile home screens. These started in about 1999, and were most likely inspired by 3rd party backdrop applications for the Apple Newton from around 1996. If anybody were to get credit for the notifications UI of iOS and Android, it'd be those long forgotten developers.
The underlying architecture of Android's push notification system is actually a ripoff of iOS'. But since most people arn't developers, they wouldn't know that. (in short, c2dm duplicates iOS' push notification system)
Yes all companies draw inspriration. Samsung is a company that literally copies and pastes other company design and uses it as there own. Recently Apple has used the Swiss clock design (not from a software company) got sued and accepted it like men. Samsung really does believe they do no wrong...
A little different.
For one - Apple and the those that own the clock design are not competitors.
Second - The owners were very amicable (even though a suit loomed) about coming to an agreement.
On that second point - it makes all the difference. Apple v Samsung was never really cordial.
Third - the clock case one was specific design. The AvS case was over several patents.
Apples and Oranges.
ETA: I think all companies think they can do no wrong. They roll the dice and take chances. Especially in tech. And you certainly can't blame a company for fighting the fight - whether they are right or wrong. If they feel they have a shot at winning or minimizing the damage.
Translation: "samedung, I'm also for hire, notice what I do for you".
-- judge flips over backward and kicks down an iPad while holding a galaxy ware with toes...
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Copy cat. She wants to be paid by samedung, just as that old uk judge is doing now.
1) Being competitors isn't a big deal. Look at HTC and Apple, they settled.
2) yep. Apple tried to settle with Samsung outside of court too. That didn't work out. (Thinking they can get away with it.. Looks like they actually might)
Second point) Actually Samsung was Apples primary supplier.
3) Not really. Look at the court cases. I remember there being app icons that Samsung clearly copied and pasted.