Jury Finds Largely in Favor of Apple in Apple vs. Samsung Trial, Awards More than $1 Billion in Damages

[KPOM]

The Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted.

Can you grant that in this case, perhaps the jury in California didn't exhaust all the other possibilities first, Winston?

 

[bkushner]

I love how Apple finished up by saying "Stealing isn't right" Like they're innocent of ever stealing ideasImage

If an idea is not patented, it is not stealing. Has Android patented the pull down notification? They have applied for a vague patent which may or may not be approved and may not cover Apple's notification system. Prior art as well.

 

[wikus]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Hooray for monopolies.

 

[Klatti]

I haven't read this entire thread, but did someone actually say this? You are spot on that, without Apple, we would still be stuck with the "choice" of our favourite clunky, keyboard laden phone with miserable internet capabilities and a handful of poorly programmed java apps provided strictly by our cell provider. What a great future we missed out on thanks to Apple.

dunno if you didnt notice but I am supporting apple. That was an actual quote from a engadget user...

 

[subsonix]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Not really. Now there will be more variety, since Samsung will need to come up with something on their own.

 

[KPOM]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Hooray for monopolies.

Hardly. This isn't the end of Android. If anything, Google and others will work even harder to differentiate it from iOS as a result of this.

 

[Gandir]

If an idea is not patented, it is not stealing. Has Android patented the pull down notification? They have applied for a vague patent which may or may not be approved and may not cover Apple's notification system. Prior art as well.

The people that did similar notification systems before apple did not patent them either. That is why they are prior works to Apples patent and that is what makes Apples patents invalid and then Samsung have stolen nothing from Apple.

 

[Melab]

That's what Magistrate Judge Grewal ruled and Judge Koh concluded. However, it's exactly that kind of thing that appellate courts look at. They won't look at whether the Nexus S does or does not have a bounce back feature, or whether the Tab 10.1 violates the iPad's trade dress. They will consider whether the denial of admission of evidence was permissible.

Then would it be sent back for trial?

 

[bkushner]

And your point?

My point is if you are a child then fine, make fun of where someone lives. If you are a mature person, then act like one.

 

[cankster]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Hooray for monopolies.

Another mouth breather. Monopolies. Lmao. Apple sells like 25% or something, perhaps less. Yea. Monopoly.

 

[entatlrg]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Hooray for monopolies.

What's wrong? You mad because other companies can no longer copy Apple and will be forced to innovate?

 

[Death-T]

Jeez, I didn't know you could be a fanboy of a multibillion dollar international corporation until I joined this forum.

 

[KPOM]

Then would it be sent back for trial?

Perhaps, if the appellate court rules that a) the evidence should have been allowed, and b) that it might have reasonably swayed a jury. My guess is that it wouldn't overturn the whole thing, but that it could result in significant portions being reconsidered, if the appellate court overturns the judge. Most of the damages were for smartphones.

 

[435713]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Hooray for monopolies.

I cant grab a winMO phone now because of this?? Weird.

 

[Lindsford]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Hooray for monopolies.

Not really, it's actually the opposite.

http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/14/mobile-phone-q2-2012-market-share-sales/

7%... Market share, hardly a monopoly.

 

[testerdennis]

You condensed 50 years of a man's life into one paragraph. You have such anger I recommend you go to a Windows or Android website where you will probably feel much better and find people who think like you do.

One paragraph would you like me to quote more ??? Like I said I can't believe how you people praise this guy. If you people want to continue thinking this guy was a SAINT then go ahead, but don't tell me this guy is 99% more of a person than me.
I probably own more MAC products than the norm on this site so whatever, you will break out of that bubble one day.

Cheers !!!

 

[Dcuellar]

Congratulations everyone, the real loser in this case is YOU the consumer.

Hooray for monopolies.

This doesn't create a monopoly. If Samsung wants to continue to make sales they are going to have to innovate themselves. That, for the consumer, is ideal and a win-win situation.

 

[cankster]

Jeez, I didn't know you could be a fanboy of a multibillion dollar international corporation until I joined this forum.

I cant speak for you, but Apple saved me from clam shell phones and Blackberries. That is my loyalty to them. I hated my Nokia clam shell!!!

 

[KPOM]

The jury snuck out the back door. I guess they didn't want to talk to the media. I understand completely, but it would have been nice to get their thoughts, particularly given how quickly this case was decided. Something must have seemed pretty clear cut to them.

 

[craig1410]

Apple deserved to win - any reasonable person can see that Samsung copied the iPhone. I'm so glad that legal process didn't get in the way of common sense here as is often the case.

To those complaining about smartphones getting put back 5 years, that sounds about right because that is about as far forward as the iPhone brought us when everyone started copying it! In reality it won't be as bad as that for competitors anyway but maybe they will have to actually put in some work and come up with some original ideas in future.

THAT is what will ultimately benefit consumers.

Great job Tim, rest in peace Steve. Go do something great Samsung...

 

[easy4lif]

Another proxy win in the coldwar between apple vs google


We are far, FAR from even being close to the end of this.

 

[samcraig]

But - let me ask you this - sincerely. Do you believe that Apple is entitled to 100% of Samsung's profits for the phone for a handful of patents? I don't think so. I'm glad Apple didn't get the 2+ billion they were seeking. They didn't deserve that much. They deserved something. Just not everything.


I'm not saying what I think they deserve or don't. I think its good their is competition. I would hate it if there was no comp for Apple. I'm just saying these people and their retarded "big strike against consumers", "Samsung didn't totally reverse engineer and rip off the Iphone" are just so dumb that it hurts.

I just cant believe these android fans don't thank Apple for coming out with the Iphone. The Iphone created the Androids. Just thank Apple for saving us from clam shells and Blackberrys.

I think Apple should get credit where credit is due. But if you think phones weren't already migrating to full touch screen interfaces then you're wrong. Having worked in the industry several years ago - I saw several models in the pipeline before the iPhone was ever announced.

If you're talking about iOS vs Android (leaving out hardware entirely) I will say again that what exists now is a natural progression. Did Apple make it popular - no doubt. Would the industry have something iOS "like" right NOW if it weren't for iOS - no one can speculate. But given that the industry was already moving towards touchscreen phones without keyboards (whether they were released yet or not) the same would apply to the OSes that would utilize them.

Apple, when creating iOS learned from the industry. What worked and what didn't. And improved upon it - made some things "their own." In turn - they still continue to look at what the industry is doing and either adopt it or not. It's technology evolution. We can thank Apple. We can thank Samsung. We can thank Google. We can thank all the players for pushing everything forward. I don't agree that Apple is the only party deserving of thanks.

 

[cankster]

Apple deserved to win - any reasonable person can see that Samsung copied the iPhone. I'm so glad that legal process didn't get in the way of common sense here as is often the case.

To those complaining about smartphones getting put back 5 years, that sounds about right because that is about as far forward as the iPhone brought us when everyone started copying it! In reality it won't be as bad as that for competitors anyway but maybe they will have to actually put in some work and come up with some original ideas in future.

THAT is what will ultimately benefit consumers.

Great job Tim, rest in peace Steve. Go do something great Samsung...

Well said.

 

[Ryan John]

So Samsung didn't copy the iphone huh? Christ where do you people come from? You and your country are the kind that would rather not have the cure for cancer if it meant that the company who invented it made a profit.

All companies are entitled to make a profit of course, but wouldn't you prefer to see Apple focusing it's efforts on bringing out a better, revolutionary iPhone?

Or do you prefer to stick with your tiny incremental updates? Because that's all Apple will give you smartphone wise if the competition is not allowed to compete due to over zealous issuing of patents. After all giving the US citizen more wouldn't make them come back year after year to repurchase essentially the same product would it?

Makes no difference to us in Europe or indeed Asia, South America etc. Courts elsewhere haven't taken such a isolationist view so we can continue getting an excellent selection of phones. It's America's lose not ours.

 

[Nebrie]

US courts and citizens protecting US interests. Samsung was never likely to get a positive outcome in Apples home territory it would seem.

A disastrous day for consumer choice in the US. Makes me thankful that I live in a nation that doesn't have such a protectionist view. I will have a better choice and indeed the right to choose, as a result of living under a court system that doesn't pander to the $ over common sense.

Will obviously go to appeal so we can expect this to run and run.

Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious when you look at all the **** that Samsung pulls in it's own country. It's CEO committed suicide rather than face his corruption trial. They've been caught bribing the government. They continue to use banned toxic chemicals and order the arrests of any Koreans who try to protest. You want to see protectionism, go see Samsung in Korea. They OWN the government there.