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Just wait until Apple has their monopoly and see if they don't start raising their prices.

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If you see a black man and think of him as anything other than an American you are a racist. The colour of your skin and your "ethnicity" are merely traits of your family history. They do not define you as a person.

Do you think of President Obama as an American or an African?

President Obama is....AFRICAN AMERICA! TADA!
 
Now you are just grasping at straws so there's no point in trying to have a logical and reasoned debate with you.

Mark

Not grasping at straws. I genuinely can't think of any revolutionary innovations that Apple have introduced to the iPhone since it was launched 5 years ago. Can you name any?
 
Just wait until Apple has their monopoly and see if they don't start raising their prices.

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If you see a black man and think of him as anything other than an American you are a racist. The colour of your skin and your "ethnicity" are merely traits of your family history. They do not define you as a person.

Do you think of President Obama as an American or an African?

Funny most people think of Obama as a Black president even though he is half Caucasian.
 
Kenyan isn't he?

He was born in Hawaii. I think that makes him American. Unless of course only white people can be American American. Would you refer to someone as German American or Swedish American, etc. Why do only non whites get referred to as African American or Korean American or Chinese American. Surely someone is either American or not. What does their ancestry have to do with anything.
 
So the juror did NOT decided on evidence. It was largely on emails. Especially according to the statements of Manuel Ilagan. What gives? Seems more or less an emotional decision.

Anyways, I wonder what peoples reactions will be if this gets overturned. It'd be some interesting, hypocritical reactions.:cool:

What? How is the email not evidence?
 
I'm hoping this gets over turned. Apple is being a big bully. They want control over the whole smartphone industry. Its kinda scary thinking about it. I love apple products but its not right what they are doing. The iPhone basically looks the same since 2007. So they shouldn't be mad that some have switched to Samsung phones to get something different.
 
He was born in Hawaii. I think that makes him American. Unless of course only white people can be American American. Would you refer to someone as German American or Swedish American, etc. Why do only non whites get referred to as African American or Korean American or Chinese American. Surely someone is either American or not. What does their ancestry have to do with anything.

White power.
 
Well, this pretty much cements the BS "software patent" motif as valid in the U.S. unless someone wants to take it to the corrupt Supreme Court and wager who bribed whom on which direction it goes.
 
You suspect rage where it's simply a mix of passion and frustration. But I am sick and tired of liars and cheats, be they corporations or be they individuals. I'm sick and tired of the lack of personal honor that is so prevalent in this country and around the world. I am living in a society where far too many actually cheer for an individual or corporation that is found to have lied and cheated. There was a day when society would have told liars and cheats to get lost. Today, they are celebrated.

Mark

I'm going with rage. Especially with your posting history just in this thread. Are you just as enraged with Apple when they commit the same acts of lying and cheating? How about when the reports came in from Foxconn - were you morally outraged - or were you silent? Just want to know where you stand on the morality scale. For that matter - are you suggesting you've never lied or cheated? Ever?
 
Because screwing the parts together is totally on the same level as coming up with the product, designing it, programming the software, engineering the hardware, and solving all the technical challenges.

Just saying that any company as large as Apple is international. Hard to find examples that function within a single nation.

BTW, China is further along in research related to Pebble bed reactors than the US. Maybe it's because the US has to pay China back the loan it was given before it can afford to do more research. You'd think the US might want to be a leader in energy research given that it buys a lot of power from Canada. Luckily, Canadians are nice and don't mind getting ripped off by their neighbor to help them out.
 
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Stripes or no stripes doesn't matter. Why would Samsung make their phone icon GREEN, with a white phone glyph in the middle? That's the question. Think about it.

That's not the question. The question is, why did Apple use a white phone on a green background when it had already been done by others?

Answer: Apple chose their icon to look familar to people who were used to green and the phone shape being used since the very first cell phone. Also because it's the best green, white or black color combination for a screen icon.

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BTW, everyone here that doesn't believe Samsung likes to copy Apple's products needs to spend a few minutes looking at the photos at this site:

http://samsungcopiesapple.tumblr.com

If you truly value honor as much as you claim, you should be informed that many of those photos have been debunked.

For example, are you aware that the wall icons belonged to the store in which the Samsung booth was placed, and not to Samsung? And that the microphones predate Apple's use on a smartphone? Also that the iPhone's internal packaging looked like the Prada's internal packaging that came out before it?
 
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Apple has already made financial profits even before launching its flagship product(iPhone 5) n its rumored "iPad mini" :D :)
 
Not grasping at straws. I genuinely can't think of any revolutionary innovations that Apple have introduced to the iPhone since it was launched 5 years ago. Can you name any?

You're dead on. The people in this thread were the same who were mad about the iPhone 4S. Now they expect us to get anything out of Apple when they were beginning to lose their touch. Right now, the SIII is ten times the phone the iPhone 4S is, and Apple will be lucky to make a phone half as good with the next one.
 
I'm a member of this site because my main computer is a MBP. However, I also own a Galaxy S3, which I love. I enjoy a marketplace where companies are constantly tweaking and improving features other companies have tweaked and improved in the past. This is a huge blow to innovation in consumer electronics. Not only do the Android makers have to walk on thin ice, but now Apple does too. This is great for Apple today, but bad for everybody in the long run. :mad:
 
For those not familiar, trade dress is a means of protecting a business's image and overall appearance and how that image is perceived by consumers.

The most common example used to explain trade dress is the shape and design of the Coca-Cola bottle: people recognize the bottle and associate it with Coke.
 
It's my understanding that because Microsoft licensed certain things from Apple, Apple will make a little money on every sale made from that "little company"

I don't think Apple actually gets money via this cross licensing agreement, I think its so Microsoft and Apple can use each others patents without **** going down.

I don't see them becoming enemies.

They have not been in a LONG time, after the meltdown in the mid 90s, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates actually had a friendship going, they were competitive and often dissed each other, but not enemies, Bill Gates actually stayed by Job's bedside when he was dying, talking about the past.

Apple and Microsoft have not been enemies for a LONG time, I don't see that changing for a long time. They help and complement each other.
 
The most common example used to explain trade dress is the shape and design of the Coca-Cola bottle: people recognize the bottle and associate it with Coke.

Two other trade dress examples I've posted here previously:

Prestone Antifreeze vs. a homegrown maker who used the same color and shape containers, but different labeling. Prestone lost because their ads emphasized the liquid properties, instead of ever mentioning that people should look for that particular color jug.

In other words, you're supposed to prove that you heavily advertised whatever it is that you claim as trade dress. Apple never advertised their packaging, nor did they emphasize the device shape, or even really the homescreen. Apple ads mostly show apps instead.

Tylenol PM vs. Excedrin PM. Same suffix. Same box shape. Even same shading. Court ruled that the main brand names were sufficient to tell them apart. In other words, a customer could read the label and thus not be fooled by just the look.
 
Are you serious? The only thing similar is the color..besides that they have completely different designs

My Galaxy S2 looks nothing like an iPhone at all. Icons etc.

The famous call/phone icon with various models listed are entirely different as well as many other applications that shipped on my phone's firmware and I'm still running stock instead cm7 or other custom roms. :apple:
 
Two other trade dress examples I've posted here previously:

Prestone Antifreeze vs. a homegrown maker who used the same color and shape containers, but different labeling. Prestone lost because their ads emphasized the liquid properties, instead of ever mentioning that people should look for that particular color jug.

In other words, you're supposed to prove that you heavily advertised whatever it is that you claim as trade dress. Apple never advertised their packaging, nor did they emphasize the device shape, or even really the homescreen. Apple ads mostly show apps instead.

Tylenol PM vs. Excedrin PM. Same suffix. Same box shape. Even same shading. Court ruled that the main brand names were sufficient to tell them apart. In other words, a customer could read the label and thus not be fooled by just the look.

But where there any corporate memos within the makers of Excedrin PM (or the homegrown anti-freeze company) that discussed how easy it would be to copy Tylenol PM's packaging (or Prestone's bottle design)? And did those copycats get a memo from Google warning them that their products looked a little bit too much like another company's product? No, probably not.

It was the specific evidence, witness testimony, and FACTS that lead the Apple v Samsung jurors to their decision, NOT some generalized half-baked pain medication and anti-freeze stories.

Mark
 
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