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Why shouldn't it happen? As long as the guy is a suspected criminal and there is a court order from a judge.

My estimation, they would have to build stuff into the software that would help the FBI get into EVERYONE's phone, not just crack the phone of the person that is guilty. I don't want EVERYONE's phone to be accessible, just the person with warrant.
 
In the past, Apple has extracted data from iPhones under lawful court orders, but the company stopped storing encryption keys for devices running iOS 8 or later. As a result of this stronger protection, Apple cannot assist the FBI without circumventing iOS security and putting the privacy and safety of its customers at risk.

"in other news, iOS 9 adoption has today hit a record 99%"
 
U know what we should do! We should publish the Terrorist Watch list and stop people on the list from buying cellphones...why not? the right to use an airplane no not guaranteed by the US Constitution, either is buying a Cellphone.

NO MORE CELL PHONES FOR TERRORISTS!*I'm joking, this will never work.
 
Precedent. The most over used word this month and most people seem to not know what it means.

If the police get a search warrant to search a criminal's house, how does that lead to everyone's house being open for the police to look through? Cause Timmy said it would lead to a precedent?
 
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Excuse me? I support every way defeating them and part of that is being able to unlock their phones.

I don't really think it's fair to criticize an opinion here. both groups just have a different idea of what's best for America....don't fight each other.
 
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Well, the first court order said that Apple should help unlocking the phone, charge all the cost, and then destroy everything they did to not let it fall into the wrong hands.

If Apple gives in, then the poor guy given the job will have to do it thirteen times. Write the code, test it very, very carefully to not mess up the phones, unlock one phone, destroy the code, and start all over again.

Seriously, it shows that Tim Cook was absolutely 100% right.

What about the coder mind? They should wipe it off as well! His brain now knows how to make it and has an idea of the keys etc.
 
I don't really think it's fair to criticize an opinion here. both groups just have a different idea of what's best for America....don't fight each other.

It is when the person on the other side of the fence accuses us of supporting terrorism because we don't validate this as being a good idea. Says more about their argument than we ever could, IMHO.
 
Is un-precedented because a company has not been told ever, that they must program software so that the government can search it later if warranted, searching a house w/ a warrant happens all the time, so does government regulation on companies for public health. But people are making a big deal about this because companies, up until now, have never had a case of privacy that FORCES them to program a way that makes a legal search capable.

Example, of Apple has to create a backdoor access many other digital devices may be forced to also...wireless routers, digital hard drives, iCloud storage companies...this is unprecedented because no one has ever had to rule on it before/
 
4 digit passcode is 10,000 combinations. With the artificial delay and the erasure after 10 failed attempts, you could hire an intern to crack such a phone within a day or two. 6 digit passcode takes obviously 100 times longer. Still doable if you really, really want the data. 8 random digits and uppercase / lowercase letter, and it takes about 500,000 years even if they build some hardware that taps the numbers at the maximum rate possible.



There is a minimum time of 0.08 seconds per attempt. That's how long it takes to check any passcode, assuming that it takes zero time to enter a passcode. So you just multiply 0.08 by the number of combinations. My number was 62 (10 digits + 26 lowercase + 26 uppercase) raised to the 8th power (8 letters and digits). Apple says "5 1/2 years for six numbers and digits". 8 would be 62 x 62 times worse.
Note: the backdoor the fbi wants is without the mandatory 80ms delay.

Assuming a 8 character password it would be 218 trillion combinations. With a super computer it wouldn't take that long to try all combinations.
 
Okay so everyone who said this would be a one time deal...it's your turn. I'm grabbing popcorn because this got a whole lot more interesting.

Did you know, once the government made murder illegal, tons of court cases started popping up. I thought it was a one time.deal! No fair.
 
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This pretty much destroys the FBI supporters number 1 argument - that this is just for case and one phone. This in conjunction with the iCloud backup screw up, the FBI and Justice department are really making themselves look like incompetent fools.
I thought if there was anything on the iCloud APPLE had to give it up because apple maintains the iCloud storage server? I'm willing to be wrong about this....
 
I see this morning on CBS that now Bill Gates remember him the Microsoft guy?, he says he agrees with the FBI and Apple should comply with their demands. Yeah Yeah daddy gates today you'r a government lack'y. Oh SHUTUP GATES. Go save some people in Africa maybe teach then command line DOS.
 
Ahh dont worry the Government will get their way. Its just a matter of time. Dont fool yourself that is more mightier then the big boys at the Whitehouse
 
Gotta love the arrogance of saying it's a one time thing and then asking for 12 more today. I saw on the news this morning that people are gathering outside apple stores across the country in support of Tim/Apple's statement. This is great to see. Wanting the backdoor to phones is just another power grab; gov hates that a private corp built something they can't crack. Gov can't solve all your problems, people!
 
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