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Yes like everyone is rendering videos on there phone everyday.

Rendering video is a commonly used benchmark to test the CPU/GPU capabilities. It pushes the chips. One does not have to literally render video on their phone to acknowledge the results tasks like that give. An iPhone/iPad can render video faster than the vast majority of full on desktops.
 
The s8 has been out for most of the year already so of course it’s available for less than it initially released for. The newer Note 8 when released earlier this fall was just about $1000 also. Google’s next XL size phone is also rumoured to be right by that $1000 too (and not even have any new features to the table and even lacking features others offer)

The difference is, NO ONE should actually be paying $930 for a Note 8. I myself got $200 off for trading in a 5 year old iPhone 5, which is a value you won't come close to ANYWHERE else. That's not to mention the free wireless charger and SD card I got from pre-ordering.

Oh, and honestly, these devices aren't even comparable when it comes to features. There are so many useful features on android like real multitasking with split screen apps (which I'm always using), and not to mention all of the S-pen features that the Note 8 comes with. Basically, the Note 8 is a swiss army knife, and the iPhone X is just a knife with regards to features.

I have both phones, oh, and my Note 8 runs much smoother than my 7+ on iOS 11, which stutters on simple app opening animations.
 
IMHO most won't even bother 'copying' FaceID. Samsung has a sure thing with its Iris scanning, most other Android manufacturers will likely go with developing TouchID that is embedded in the screen. FaceID is also very likely a stopgap for Apple until they figure out screen-embedded Touch ID as the others are.

Lol No.
 
The Note 8 can scan the iris of it's users and use that for recognition...

What exactly does Samsung need to take from Face ID? Maybe Kuo is talking about exact copies of Face ID (facial scanning using IR) but iris scanning is a real thing that works great on the Note 8

I am not trolling, how reliable is Iris Scan ? if it is reliable why is Samsung giving options for Touch ID, Iris ID, Face ID, i think it is redundant to have so many options. Just stick with one.
 
It’s not even close to the same thing. Samsung’s iris scanner is another half assed attempt that gets fooled by something as simple as picture.

Yeah it is not even an actual iris scanner if it can be fooled by a picture. That people are claiming that is the future are silly. This advancement by Apple is far past what the note is doing with their fake scanner.
 
A stupid video opening Apps. Wonder why you ignore tests where actual work is being done. Like rendering video?
You’re honestly rendering your videos on a phone? :rolleyes:
Even 256 gb isn’t much for 4K :D
But hey... I can render videos faster on my iPhone and run everyday programs slower :cool:
 
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The difference is, NO ONE should actually be paying $930 for a Note 8. I myself got $200 off for trading in a 5 year old iPhone 5, which is a value you won't come close to ANYWHERE else. That's not to mention the free wireless charger and SD card I got from pre-ordering.

Oh, and honestly, these devices aren't even comparable when it comes to features. There are so many useful features on android like real multitasking with split screen apps (which I'm always using), and not to mention all of the S-pen features that the Note 8 comes with. Basically, the Note 8 is a swiss army knife, and the iPhone X is just a knife with regards to features.

So essentially you’re saying the Note 8 is a “jack of all trades, master of none” and iphone is “a killing machine with one purpose”

And everything you list are just features you find personally useful. Not everyone does. Not everyone agrees that split screen on such a small screen size is even useful. Most people who have owned Note phones barely use the pen. That is fact and even brought up amongst Android fans themselves. You would see more smartphone manufacturers following suit with their own note/pen line up if it truely was something other than gimmick.
 
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Let’s just admit... the phone wars are over. Apple lost the wars but reaped the most profits, NEXT.
 
I am not trolling, how reliable is Iris Scan ? if it is reliable why is Samsung giving options for Touch ID, Iris ID, Face ID, i think it is redundant to have so many options. Just stick with one.

Iris scan on the s8/note 8 has been fooled. Takes a bit more effort than using just a photo, but it already has been proven to be fooled.
 
So essentially you’re saying the Note 8 is a “jack of all trades, master of none” and iphone is “a killing machine with one purpose”

And everything you list are just features you find personally useful. Not everyone does. Not everyone agrees that split screen on such a small screen size is even useful. Most people who have owned Note phones barely use the pen. That is fact and even brought up amongst Android fans themselves. You would see more smartphone manufacturers following suit with their own note/pen line up if it truely was something other than gimmick.
You forget that the same “small” screen from Samsung comes with super Amoled and has almost double the pixels of an iPhone 8 plus. So it’s much more crisp like the iPhone X. And by that more handful for split screen use. Apple will come with pencil input for their iPhones too. Just a couple of years later like adopting oled.
 
Not sure why he thinks this.

Windows 10 has Windows Hello since it first shipped. You can by a Windows Hello compatible laptops or webcams that have infrared emitters and sensors to prevent spoofing by photographs, etc. Windows Hello has been tested to show that it has an error of 1:10,000 on identical twins. Windows Hello uses Intel's RealSense technology.

So this is well understood technology. He needs to spend some time with AI and Machine Learning people that do not work for Apple.

here is the thing people still don't understand, Apple will use existing technology make it better & use friendly, so that people will actually use it. Apple didn't invent anything, no other manufacturer is inventing anything, all these technologies have been invented long time ago, none of these companies are doing basic research, they are taking existing technology & using in their products, it is all about how the feature is packaged in a product, how reliable & repeatable it is. my ThinkPad T60 had fingerprint reader in 2006, touch ID on an iPhone uses similar technology, but how you use it is different, if T60 had finer print sensor then why did it take Samsung 3 years after iPhone had it ?

Tell me how many people used Windows Hello, Windows has 1 billion users, now wait & see how many people will use Face ID. if Windows/Android is confident that their tech (Windows Hello, Iris Scan) works reliably why are they providing 10 different options, like Samsung providing Iris Scan, Face ID, Touch ID.
 
You forget that the same “small” screen from Samsung comes with super Amoled and has almost double the pixels of an iPhone 8 plus. So it’s much more crisp like the iPhone X. And by that more handful for split screen use.

Resolution has practically zero play in making split screen viable. It doesn’t magically make the screen big enough to offer real benefits to using split screen.
 
The difference is, NO ONE should actually be paying $930 for a Note 8.
You can say that again.:p
Oh, and honestly, these devices aren't even comparable when it comes to features. There are so many useful features on android like real multitasking with split screen apps (which I'm always using), and not to mention all of the S-pen features that the Note 8 comes with. Basically, the Note 8 is a swiss army knife, and the iPhone X is just a knife with regards to features.
Do most people carry Swiss Army Knives?
Might explain why the Note series is not Samsung's most popular model.
People generally appear not to need Swiss Army Knives as an everyday item.
YMMV
 
to bad

to bad samsung makes the cameras as well lol

there are around 10 components in Face ID not just the camera, and Samsung makes A series processor, and A Series processors are better then Exynox. thats why Samsung doesn't use Exynox in US phones.
 
here is the thing people still don't understand, Apple will use existing technology make it better & use friendly, so that people will actually use it. Apple didn't invent anything, no other manufacturer is inventing anything, all these technologies have been invented long time ago, none of these companies are doing basic research, they are taking existing technology & using in their products, it is all about how the feature is packaged in a product, how reliable & repeatable it is. my ThinkPad T60 had fingerprint reader in 2006, touch ID on an iPhone uses similar technology, but how you use it is different, if T60 had finer print sensor then why did it take Samsung 3 years after iPhone had it ?

Tell me how many people used Windows Hello, Windows has 1 billion users, now wait & see how many people will use Face ID. if Windows/Android is confident that their tech (Windows Hello, Iris Scan) works reliably why are they providing 10 different options, like Samsung providing Iris Scan, Face ID, Touch ID.

I use Windows Hello on my laptop all the time. It is very cool to just open it up and have it unlock itself. After a while it is just one of those thing you don't think about.

Sort of like wireless charging with Android phones. You just drop the phone on the charger pad when you sit down and pick it up when you need it. It is always at 100% when you pick it up. I imagine the experience will be the same for iPhone X users.

As far as Samsung providing all those options, that is a Samsung issue. Their DNA is to really push the tech envelope and see what users like.
 
Resolution has practically zero play in making split screen viable. It doesn’t magically make the screen big enough to offer real benefits to using split screen.
You’re right. I need a minimal an iPhone plus for split screen use. Oh wait the Samsung comes with bigger screen than the iPhone 8 plus. The bezels are just gone away and the phone itself has about the same size.
 
Sure, some new things they could, but the basic facial recognition methods they're using have been around for decades.

Heck, Face Id likely got seriously started when Apple bought the company that did Microsoft's Kinect dot projection system, and more recently, a photographic face recognition company. Both from Israel, btw.



There were Windows Mobile phones with retina resolution back when the first iPhone came out.

And the iPhone long used GPUs developed for WinMo and other smartphones.



They're mistaken. Different method entirely.

ARM processors have been in phones for decades, i don't know what is great about A Series processors compared to what Nokia used like 20 years ago in their flip phones, they are basically same processors based on same technology.
 
ARM processors have been in phones for decades, i don't know what is great about A Series processors compared to what Nokia used like 20 years ago in their flip phones, they are basically same processors based on same technology.

A Series chips are customed designed by engineers at Apple that are now beginning to rival intel chips in laptop/desktop computers (A11 benchmarks similar to the intel chip used in the 13” 2017 MacBook Pro.) Nonone else making ARM chips are able to achieve that or are even close.
 
true, if Apple was able to implement the sensor under the screen, FaceID doesn't exist. They'll scrap FaceID once they get it working.
There are a number of advantages to face recognition, including tracking when the user is actually looking at their device to power the display on, which is convenient. TouchID isn't coming back.
 
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