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2007 = iOS is 5 years ahead of the competition

2017 = iOS is 2.5 years ahead in emojis.

Notch it down for the win! (notch not intended)
 
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This is a "why notch has to be there" sort of post. It's almost suggesting to Apple's competitors that "the future is the notch in order to have all the TrueDepth camera technology"
 
I always keep my front camera covered up on my phone because I’m creeped out by the idea that my phone is always looking at my face, not to mention the possibility of camera hacking. Face ID scanning is ten levels above that. I’m going to miss Touch ID.
 
In France, one can get Samsung Galaxy S8 for 585€ (Amazon), while iPhone X starts at 1159€ (Apple). So that X marvel is twice more expensive at the moment.

Same here in the Netherlands. They're both fabricated in china so I don’t understand the steep price hike. But logical thinking... I’m seeing people switching in droves over here. As much as Apple wants to be the Gucci and Prada of tech... it won’t work if you can get better or the same for halve the price.
 
It’s not even close to the same thing. Samsung’s iris scanner is another half assed attempt that gets fooled by something as simple as picture.
Not to mention it hurts my eyes so bad I had to stop using it. It got progressively more painful so I'm wondering if whatever it was doing to cause pain was having a cumulative effect. I've seen others complaining on Reddit thread when I did a web search so I'm not alone, though probably in the minority. It's most likely, safe but pain is pain and I can't ignore that.

I do wish that fingerprint scanning options remain viable in the future.
 
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Great post. I have been fighting this very same argument on the forums for weeks now. Some memebers actually think Apple abandoned Touch ID under the screen just weeks before the iPhone X announcement lol

Touch ID is gone.
So where is 3D Touch on my iPad Pro 10.5? Considering that obviously, according to you, when Apple makes a change on iPhone it instantly becomes the defacto standard.
 
There is no innovation here....
Android already had this...
Blah blah blah...

I don’t care who has it first, I care for which one works best at the most acceptable price. In Europe Apple is getting to expensive compared to the competition which offer the same if not better for half the price.
 
As I’ve shown in my post earlier... they are faster in real life. So their phones are already faster. If iOS 11 is the problem than Apple has a bigger problem because it will take another year for iOS 12.

That doesn’t make any sense. Apple can update iOS11 any time to fix speed issues. They don’t have to wait till iOS12
 
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I don’t care who has it first, I care for which one works best at the most acceptable price. In Europe Apple is getting to expensive compared to the competition which offer the same if not better for half the price.

I'm agree. Apple is getting out of line on pricing.
 
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This technology is in its infancy and it's capabilities will be the future as Apple said it will be. It just needs an adaption phase for those to transition from touch ID to face ID and allow it to see its true potential come November 3. And then you will have those who were doubting it, realize this technology is the next step forward in security.
Still doubting, I don't see how Apple can beat the convenience of Touch ID. To be honest, I feel like these two technologies were developed/introduced in reverse order. Most of the time my phone is unlocked and on the last screen I was on before my eyes ever see the screen. Love Touch ID. Apple Pay, how could it be better than with Touch ID?
 
As I’ve shown in my post earlier... they are faster in real life. So their phones are already faster. If iOS 11 is the problem than Apple has a bigger problem because it will take another year for iOS 12.

Never been a fan of those types of “real world” speed tests because they are often flawed in how they are executed to begin with. You need to have scripted actions to take the human factor out of it, even then there are differences in how both OSs respond to them. Same reason I had issues with the classic PowerPC vs Intel battles back in the Steve Jobs era.

As an aside, it doesn’t take a full year for the applications to start taking advantage of the hardware improvements. Updates for iOS11, and the new hardware extensions tend to become optimized for the new hardware throughout the year.

Even today, many applications aren’t optimized for iOS 11, let alone the new hardware that devs just recently had access to code for.
 
The interesting thing that the general public often doesn’t see about Apple is what goes on behind the scenes.

When an Apple product or concept is leaked then all competitors will want to copy, leading the public to believe that Apple was “second” in some cases.

Also, when Apple does something that seems simple is in reality 100x more complicated than what’s on the surface making the feature seem trivial or like a gimmic.
 
But if its components are being manufactured by Samsung, they will figure it out in 6 months and release their own lol.
 
Agreed. However... good luck explaining that to any Fandroid.

First with multi-touch (just getting it as smooth as the iPhone took a decade)

Then retina
- Touch-ID
- Secure enclaves that doesn’t expose the private key
- 64 Bit
- Swift/APFS
- CPU design
- GPU design
- Camera and haptics(arguable)
- AR
- And now TrueDepth.

Apple is/was years ahead in all these categories. They have set a tremendous foundation.
 
Apple is setting the stage for the next decade of what people expect from smartphones.

Much like the original iPhone launch, it took android years to catch up and make truly competitive products.

Same with Touch ID.

No surprise it is happening again.

I wish that were true. I've been using Android devices for the past few years because iPhones have always been missing features I use daily. iPhoneX is the first phone in a while that i'm sort of interested in. But it's missing T-Mobile's new band and a headphone jack. Would be nice also if that notch wasn't there and it didn't have a tiny battery.
 
Never been a fan of those types of “real world” speed tests because they are often flawed in how they are executed to begin with. You need to have scripted actions to take the human factor out of it, even then there are differences in how both OSs respond to them. Same reason I had issues with the classic PowerPC vs Intel battles back in the Steve Jobs era.

As an aside, it doesn’t take a full year for the applications to start taking advantage of the hardware improvements. Updates for iOS11, and the new hardware extensions tend to become optimized for the new hardware throughout the year.

Even today, many applications aren’t optimized for iOS 11, let alone the new hardware that devs just recently had access to code for.
I remember those intel vs PowerPC ad. Apple used a snail to point at Intel. Until they ran into trouble with the PowerPC and I saw friends of my running circles with their cheap pc's with photoshop compared to my 5x expensive Mac. I even wrote to Steve Jobs about it and the next year we saw an Intel Mac.

I do care for real life tests because that’s how you use your device. I don’t care if it’s tenths of seconds slower. But when it’s slower and more than twice as expensive you must admit there is something wrong.
 
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Never been a fan of those types of “real world” speed tests because they are often flawed in how they are executed to begin with. You need to have scripted actions to take the human factor out of it, even then there are differences in how both OSs respond to them. Same reason I had issues with the classic PowerPC vs Intel battles back in the Steve Jobs era.

As an aside, it doesn’t take a full year for the applications to start taking advantage of the hardware improvements. Updates for iOS11, and the new hardware extensions tend to become optimized for the new hardware throughout the year.

Even today, many applications aren’t optimized for iOS 11, let alone the new hardware that devs just recently had access to code for.
But in the real world, I don't think anyone cares if you can open an app 100ms faster.

Most, if not all, Android mid-range devices will do a very good job at mail/messaging/camera/navigation/banking/etc. Apple has a small advantage at loading time for games.

I'd lose far more time on the iPhone because of the inadequacies of the UI, where the back button is both inconsistent (swipe or top-left) and badly placed (top-left), every app is forced to put settings into the Settings app so you need to quit to change anything etc. Try connecting to Bluetooth or WiFi from an Android and you'll see how quicker it is, since you can long-press the drop-down icons.

Not to mention putting music on my phone, which is a breeze when I can simply copy it across and I don't need any 3rd party application, particularly one with such a horrible, unintuitive user experience (in my opinion) as iTunes.

Being unable to customise my screens with direct dials, calendar widgets, location sharing etc. - not even simply grouping icons, visually, which on iOS you cannot do because it allows no gap in icon placement - makes general use more involved, clunkier and slower.

The examples are endless. The iPhone is like a car that goes slightly faster but only in a straight line. It's still a 2007 device, even with the bells and whistles, while Android moved on.
 
We'll see if iPhone still has this tech in two and a half years. If under-the-screen touch id improves, what would be the use for this? To justify the notch?
 
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