He's obviously talking about newer models.![]()
The the Xs or whatever it will be called .... Anything on the X design.
Do you think there will be "other" iPhones introduced other than the existing 5 and 6 designs and the X?
He's obviously talking about newer models.![]()
FaceID did not fail. Samsung's phones have a much larger bezel. Touch ID is not coming back.A full screen without buttons OR an enormous notch cut out of the screen.
The main reason for the notch seems to be cramming tons of cameras in for FaceID, if TouchID worked under the screen the notch could at least be diminished, it's poor design compared to the latest Samsung/LG phones, they managed greatly reduced bezels far more elegantly.
People keep saying "Apple have tested it and think it's far better", well they test lots, the antennas in the iPhone 4 were still a fail, FaceID still failed on its first public demonstration, so people are rightly skeptical not to just believe what they're told. Unless they're rabid fanboys who actually believe everything ever written in marketing.
Oh? So you’ve tried it then.
Along with the rest of the Touch Bar.Glad to know Touch ID is already obsolete on my MacBook Pro. That lasted about a year. lol
This is not good news.![]()
FaceID did not fail. Samsung's phones have a much larger bezel. Touch ID is not coming back.
There's a rumor, confirmed by the Wall St. Journal, that they're going to have 3 phones next year. Two OLED models, one in 5.8" and one in 6.46". Essentially, the iPhone X and a Plus version of it. The 3rd phone is supposed to be a 5" LCD phone using a new type of LCD technology called Full Active LCD by Japan display. Supposedly Full Active LCD uses a tighter weave in the electronics of the LCD screen allowing for a closer to the bezel display than traditional LCD technology. That phone is supposed to be around $700 or so. I'm sure the SE model will still be retained with a minor upgrade, probably just to the processor.The the Xs or whatever it will be called .... Anything on the X design.
Do you think there will be "other" iPhones introduced other than the existing 5 and 6 designs and the X?
... yet Kuo, and others, have run with it, WITHOUT even using it themselves ... what does that tell you ??? ...
Funny, I don't recall asking for fingerprint scanner back in the Nokia days....or for a smarphone back in the days... It is called progress, tech gets pushed and usually it is tech people did not even know they needed / wanted.Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about.
It allows for a (nearly) edge-to-edge display without compromising security or convenience. That means the user gets a larger screen in a smaller package with no drawbacks.
Samsung's non-solution was to stick the fingerprint reader on the back *right by the lens*, truly one of the dumbest tech decisions I've seen in a while.
so either A) Marketing is a lieA full screen without buttons OR an enormous notch cut out of the screen.
The main reason for the notch seems to be cramming tons of cameras in for FaceID, if TouchID worked under the screen the notch could at least be diminished, it's poor design compared to the latest Samsung/LG phones, they managed greatly reduced bezels far more elegantly.
People keep saying "Apple have tested it and think it's far better", well they test lots, the antennas in the iPhone 4 were still a fail, FaceID still failed on its first public demonstration, so people are rightly skeptical not to just believe what they're told. Unless they're rabid fanboys who actually believe everything ever written in marketing.
I did not fail. You obviously don't know what the word "fail" means. It worked exactly as it was supposed to. It didn't allow him to login after there had been previous failed attempts. The phone was set for his face. Assistants were wiping the phones down all while the phones were attempting to log them in. After a few fails it defaults to the pin code. The notch only looks like crap in your opinion.I said they managed it more elegantly, they did, the notch looks crap, they also have wider screens which give more overall usable screen area (notch free).
FaceID DID fail, Craig tried to use it, it didn't work, in front of millions of viewers - that's a fail. Spin it however you like, Apple can spin it however they like, it failed. We don't even know if it was active on his "back up" phone either.
There's a rumor, confirmed by the Wall St. Journal, that they're going to have 3 phones next year. Two OLED models, one in 5.8" and one in 6.46". Essentially, the iPhone X and a Plus version of it. The 3rd phone is supposed to be a 5" LCD phone using a new type of LCD technology called Full Active LCD by Japan display. Supposedly Full Active LCD uses a tighter weave in the electronics of the LCD screen allowing for a closer to the bezel display than traditional LCD technology. That phone is supposed to be around $700 or so. I'm sure the SE model will still be retained with a minor upgrade, probably just to the processor.
No Thanx! I will NEVER buy a Face-ID device.
Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about. Enjoy the free-slide in sales. It may not be immediate, but it will be profound.
I did not fail. You obviously don't know what the word "fail" means. It worked exactly as it was supposed to. It didn't allow him to login after there had been previous failed attempts. The phone was set for his face. Assistants were wiping the phones down all while the phones were attempting to log them in. After a few fails it defaults to the pin code. The notch only looks like crap in your opinion.
so either A) Marketing is a lie
B) anybody who believes marketing believes all marketing.. plus they have rabies.
got it. thx
I believe the phone is unlocked, just not "opened". So if you tap on a notification you can get into the associated app without having to go through a screen like this:Nope, you still need to "place a particular finger in a particular spot at a particular time" because you need to swipe up to unlock the phone. What you DO get is an added step of having to look at the phone as you do that.
Sorry but it seems you didn't try it. For iris scanning you have to place your eyes at very close 15-30cm to the device , dead centre,faceid works even if you look at it from lets say 45 degrees angle. A very massive step forward from user experienceYou can go into a Samsung store and try it, the retina unlock will give you a very strong similar experience to be honest. I've used the S8, did not like haveing to look at the phone to unlock, it's not about how well it unlocks, it's the fundamental user experience that by the time I take my iPhone from my pocket it's unlocked with out having had to stare at it, let alone having to swipe up.
I think everyone needs to try it, and guarantee there will be many shocked people on both sides of the camp - I for one thought I'd really like unlocking by looking (ignoring the hardware) - sold the S8 and went back to iPhone 7 just on the touchid
I think this helps people like me wait for the X.
Couple thoughts:
1) Apple must be very confident in this feature. This could be very damaging if this doesn't catch on.
2) Apple has done this in the past. Removed the floppy disk, removed the CD drive, removed the 3.5mm jack, etc. Some of those have seen history prove Apple was right. Some Apple is still trying to prove was the right move. Touch ID will definitely be added to that list, time will tell which way it is viewed.
SarcasmI'm done with Apple. I'm moving to Samsung. At least they have a headphone jack and fingerprint scanner
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Looks like my iPhone 7 Plus will be the LAST iPhone I ever buy.
Of course. Apple has made it clear this is the way forward. Why would anyone doubt them?