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Kuo: All iPhone Models in 2018 Likely to Abandon Fingerprint Recognition
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The headphone jack is dying. It won't be long before more Android flagship ditch it just as Pixel did. If you wait long enough your only options will be lower tier phones.
Sometimes technology advances because we want to see if we can do it instead of sometimes a better way or the “safer way”.
I remember when Touch ID came out and I thought, “So what..are we getting too lazy to punch in a four code number to unlock? Remember before it was a longer number to punch in, but that was too much to do for most. Plus, now Apple and whomever has your finger prints in exchange for convienence. Yes...they do have it, give me a Break with “just stays on your phone..”
Once the technology was worked out it seems to be a good thing and I actually like now Touch ID.
But...facial ID...then eye ID...no thanks. That is my limit. If that becomes the standard, I might just get rid of my smartphone all together. I cannot believe that thought entered my mind, being a tech enthusiast.
Apple and the rest of the industry is working on making their products a “must have” to live instead of a tool or option to make your live a little better. It is becoming clear their objective. People will say, “then just don’t buy..” but the way the world is going, it is making it difficult “not to have” a smart phone.
It was pretty slick that they had a backup phone there just in case.
It was certainly a demo fail. If the tech isn't ready, we're going to see tens of millions of people having problems in just a few weeks.
I'm not expecting that to happen, because "such a slick organization" wouldn't put tens of millions of its customers in that situation.
I’m not quite sure I buy this rumor, but if it’s true it basically would take the place of an 8S & 8S plus. With FaceID and a notch, and a diagonal of 5”, it would be as narrow as an SE, just taller if the new 19.5:9 aspect ratio.
Seems possible, though I think knocking $300 off the X price (matching pricing on a current iPhone 8) just by using LCD over OLED, and single- vs. dual-lens camera, is pretty optimistic. I guess they could save a little on BOM by using an A11. If they could sell it at $699 I think it would be a home run.
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Exactly! They didn't take anything away and people where crying like babies (I don't want my fingers to be cut, I don't want my girlfriend to unlock my phone with my finger while I am at sleep, I don't want police to unlock my phone with my finger and all sorts of silly comments)
By the way, they are not taking anything away from you or anyone. They create their products (for which you have an option to buy or not to buy) and they decide if a certain technology can be replaced by an improved one time after time. Last time I checked no one is forced to buy anything.
Requiring less precision from the user. I've seen less sophisticated iPhone users, like my mother, make two or three attempts to unlock their phone, and their frustration is palpable. Unlocking by simply looking at the screen is the ultimate "It Just Works" hallmark of Apple affordances.
True. For example, the whole trend toward avoiding physical buttons.
Seriously?
I often challenge what Apple PR says, but there's no reason not to believe their claim that biometric info never leaves the phone.
The SE is the lowest cost phone, and will continue to be around $349 with a small spec refresh expected in spring 2018.
At $699 the new LCD edge to edge would be more like a combined 9/9 Plus—might even be called 9. Not sure if it would be 16:9 or the new, taller 19.5:9 aspect ratio. I’m thinking 16:9, seems like otherwise landscape height would be too short, but I haven’t done the calcs.
It would have FaceID and a notch, dual cameras would be awesome and I’m sure Apple would rather do that, AR and all, but at $699 could they? Maybe at $749. Not sure if A11 or A12 but A11 would make sense for BOM. Ideally RAM would be 3GB.
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They know how well it works; you think they want 80 million pissed off customers this year?
Apple's tech is quite different than Samsung's, so I wouldn't make assumptions based on what Samsung did. In my experience, Samsung rushes technologies to the market, with low regard to details and quality. So, thanks for the advice, but no, I won't be making any judgements of Face ID based on what Samsung did. Just like I didn't presume anything about Touch ID based on fingerprint scanners from other phones at the time.
Correct, I shouldn't bring myself down to your level of name-calling really. But all you're showing is that you're blind to any criticism of your favourite brand, which is a bit sad.
Not only have I got the last useable Macbook pro, with a plethora of different ports, I appear to have also got the last remaining iPhone which a home button and finger print tech exist. The removal of somethings is not progress, its regression.
In such large markets, 'many' are not happy about a lot of things. What most think is what counts and Apple believes most will love the change. And, you know what, I'm inclined to believe they are right.
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History says the opposite.
Good. One less person to have to fight with to get my hands on an already limited supply of iPhones.
This thread is a joke. Apple aren’t idiots yet you all think you know better, despite having never used the technology. Why would Apple push the tech if it was inferior? No company would intentionally drown themselves like that. They know what they’re doing, and you haven’t even tried FaceID. Please, use a bit of common sense.
Not to mention that most scenarios people complain about (eg, flat on table) have been debunked.
And while we’re at it, let’s stop predicting the death of Apple. People do this with every device launch, ever since the first iPhone. “That’s IT! They’ve done it now, RIP iPhone!”. Yet sales increase every year. Haven’t we learned anything?
I’m super excited for FaceID. Having to touch my finger to authenticate feels outdated.
Not to mention that most scenarios people complain about (eg, flat on table) have been debunked.
And while we’re at it, let’s stop predicting the death of Apple. People do this with every device launch, ever since the first iPhone. “That’s IT! They’ve done it now, RIP iPhone!”. Yet sales increase every year. Haven’t we learned anything?
I’m super excited for FaceID. Having to touch my finger to authenticate feels outdated.
Its difficult to not have an ID or a bank account or a computer. For many people their phone is the computer they use the most.
I am amazed how one change that: 1) didn't even happen yet, 2) we didn't get to experience ourselves - brings out such melodramatic responses from people.
A notch or a forehead, take your pick... there are 8 sensors up there, they gotta go somewhere.
There is utility to having status info in the ears, and the notch and rounded corners go away with pillar boxed 16:9 landscape video (unless you double tap to zoom in).
They certainly had pre-production units with and without the notch; Apple has chosen an immediately identifiable, iconic design that will age well, imo. Classic Apple design: functional form.
‘Kuo predicted 2018 iPhones would fully adopt the TrueDepth camera and facial recognition if Face ID was "well received" by customers’
Well received? Many customers might not be receiving anything until 2018!
Well received? Many customers might not be receiving anything until 2018!
I have no problem with criticism. Nonsense though is another thing entirely...and that's what you're spewing.
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It's not the tech. It's the user experience . Even if touchid was 3 times slower it's a great user experience in regards how you interact with the device .
Ummm I'm talking about having to stare at my iPhone now, it's what you do with the Samsung. I unlock my iPhone without looking at it.