Amazing how someone can't have a opinion even though it is 100% known how it is going to work. The only remaining question is how well it identifies someone.
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Kuo: All iPhone Models in 2018 Likely to Abandon Fingerprint Recognition
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Amazing how someone can't have a opinion even though it is 100% known how it is going to work. The only remaining question is how well it identifies someone.
How long have you been using it for and what problems with it have you had?
Indeed. You would think from the negative comments the world was ending.
People don't like change is what it boils down to. Nobody except the people that attended the event have any experience using face ID. Even then, it wasn't their own, it was an employee unlocking it. So I am not sure how everyone can be so resentful to something they haven't even tried. I could understand if you have it, tried it and don't like it. Boggles my mind how quick people write things off.
Personally I love Touch ID, I’ll be sad to see it go. But as much as I am, I’m also pretty excited for Face ID.
Finally something that I can use when I have wet/grubby fingers, or when I’m wearing gloves. Touch ID is awesome, but like any technology, Face ID included, it has its limitations.
I find it hard to believe Apple hasn’t done the work to ensure those limitations are at least not as annoying as the Touch ID ones. If we’re honest we knew this was going to happen eventually, did we think Apple bought the company just to make a poo talk to us?
I’m sure people who have perpetually clean hands or live anywhere you don’t need gloves may disagree, but I’m for it, or at the very least I’m not going to rule it out before I’ve even tried it.
Finally something that I can use when I have wet/grubby fingers, or when I’m wearing gloves. Touch ID is awesome, but like any technology, Face ID included, it has its limitations.
I find it hard to believe Apple hasn’t done the work to ensure those limitations are at least not as annoying as the Touch ID ones. If we’re honest we knew this was going to happen eventually, did we think Apple bought the company just to make a poo talk to us?
I’m sure people who have perpetually clean hands or live anywhere you don’t need gloves may disagree, but I’m for it, or at the very least I’m not going to rule it out before I’ve even tried it.
It's like the touchID on the back that some providers have introduced - many people before even trying it, didn't like the idea of it - and a lot of them even after trying it, didn't like it. The same may or may not happen with FaceID.
Sure, 'currently' Apple is selling phones ranging between $350 and $1149 (and for all the iPhone lifetime, the cheapest iPhone was available for between $400 and $450). It sells five different phone models (ignoring screen size, capacity and colour): SE, 6s, 7, 8, X.
And in one year from now, the cheapest iPhone will be the current iPhone X (or maybe a 4.x" version of the iPhone X)? Could Apple drop the 6s and 7 next year? Sure. But dropping the SE and 8 as well or updating both with only the face recognition module? I don't think so. Even when the 5C came out, the 4s was still being sold, ie, Apple has always sold at least one older model.
If that's true, it means the old design is gone forever. No SE 2, no 8s and 8s+ but only X models.
It would be feasible to add FaceID on the 8 since there is plenty of space above the display, but I don't see them keeping touchID on the bottom and FaceID on the top.
But if all 2018 models are X, they have to keep current price scheme, so they should release an X model with the same price of iPhone 8. And what could they sell at the higher price point? An X "pro"?
I think they'll move to OLED in 2019 and have another year with current lineup, selling an 8s and 8s+ and the new version of X at an higher price. An SE 2 would be great as well, maybe with the A10 to have more battery life and better perfomance
It would be feasible to add FaceID on the 8 since there is plenty of space above the display, but I don't see them keeping touchID on the bottom and FaceID on the top.
But if all 2018 models are X, they have to keep current price scheme, so they should release an X model with the same price of iPhone 8. And what could they sell at the higher price point? An X "pro"?
I think they'll move to OLED in 2019 and have another year with current lineup, selling an 8s and 8s+ and the new version of X at an higher price. An SE 2 would be great as well, maybe with the A10 to have more battery life and better perfomance
Me too, when I can't get it anymore, I will be abandoning iPhone, but Ebay should have plenty of new old stock devices with Touch ID for years to come.
FaceID as a selling point LOL
I think it is great as an alternative or as a step in 2 or 3 layer authentication.
As the only option for unlocking your phone without manually entering your password.... at least for me it wouldn’t be my first choice.
I would like to see the sensors for FaceID placed on the back of the phone as well as the front. There must be many things that developers could do with something like that.
I think it is great as an alternative or as a step in 2 or 3 layer authentication.
As the only option for unlocking your phone without manually entering your password.... at least for me it wouldn’t be my first choice.
I would like to see the sensors for FaceID placed on the back of the phone as well as the front. There must be many things that developers could do with something like that.
For sure. Full screen with no notch, and under the screen sensing VS a screen with a notch. No contest.
Like all the people praising it, it's bravery and it's "iconic" design... Before it's even available. Works both ways.
I don't have to try it. FaceID could be instant, but it cant unlock the phone as it is leaving my pocket like TouchID can.
Two scenarios of me going to pay for something with Apple Pay, phone starting upside down in my pocket.
Touch ID
I put my hand in my pocket and grab the phone, simultaneously double tapping the home button, as the phone is pulled out my pocket it on authenticated, and read to pay, i then tap it on the reader and I'm done.
FaceID
I put my hand in my pocket and grab the phone, simultaneously double tapping the home button, as the phone is pulled out of my pocket needing to be authenticated. I look at the phone while it scans my face, it then authenticates so is ready to pay. I then tap it on the reader and I'm done.
It is just that extra little step that probably only takes a second or two, but it is an extra step regardless, which is a step backwards in my opinion.
Whether or not the FaceID works well or not, whether or not the notch is good or bad design (it's bad 
) the iPhone X is still too big for me to consider it - it'll be the same for many I expect too.
The 6 was about the limit of what I'd be ok using as someone who always uses a phone one-handed and I changed to a far better SE, in my opinion. The X is larger than the 6, it's pretty much a phablet. I think it should have actually been smaller than the 6/7/8 but with a larger screen - best of all worlds and back to Apples core (ahem) values of user experience and usability. Price doesn't matter and paying more for bigger has never been appealing to me - happy to pay more for a better product regardless.
) the iPhone X is still too big for me to consider it - it'll be the same for many I expect too. The 6 was about the limit of what I'd be ok using as someone who always uses a phone one-handed and I changed to a far better SE, in my opinion. The X is larger than the 6, it's pretty much a phablet. I think it should have actually been smaller than the 6/7/8 but with a larger screen - best of all worlds and back to Apples core (ahem) values of user experience and usability. Price doesn't matter and paying more for bigger has never been appealing to me - happy to pay more for a better product regardless.
Surely they just mean that any NEW model will abandon Touch ID? Which is obvious. iPone 8 is the last TouchID model.
But I am sure they will continue to produce iPhone 6/7/8/SE alongside iPhone X and X+ etc.
Otherwise they'll have to abandon their entire product range, which will mean launching at least 4 new designs. For no reason. Or only supply iPhone X - which I severely doubt.
Moreover, FaceID is a way of up-selling customers from the cheaper models. (Not that I could care less, personally.)
But I am sure they will continue to produce iPhone 6/7/8/SE alongside iPhone X and X+ etc.
Otherwise they'll have to abandon their entire product range, which will mean launching at least 4 new designs. For no reason. Or only supply iPhone X - which I severely doubt.
Moreover, FaceID is a way of up-selling customers from the cheaper models. (Not that I could care less, personally.)
I'm not thrilled by FID, but then I rationalise it's probably inertia as I'm just "used to" TID.
But as for it being a "feature" in my choice of phone, please. It's an authentication system, nothing more nothing less.
Like with all everyday technology, people will either accept and embrace the change or they won't.
Meanwhile the world will still keep turning.
But as for it being a "feature" in my choice of phone, please. It's an authentication system, nothing more nothing less.
Like with all everyday technology, people will either accept and embrace the change or they won't.
Meanwhile the world will still keep turning.
I think you and I have a different opinion on good Hi-Fi gear.
Again it depends on the user, as someone like me, who travels a lot, adapters are the worst. The rMBP had everything I needed built in, SD Card reader, HMDI and USB A.
I charge my iPhone on my computer mostly, especially when I am on some older planes that done have USB ports. Saves me having to carry a battery pack. Space is certainly limited when you're on the road for 8-9 months a year.
I cannot tell you how many times my MBP has been saved by Magsafe, even today it was saved as I tripped over my own cord.
The article states that all new Apple devices will be removing Touch ID, so yes it is going away.
Would have preferred it like this, still using the real estate but less awkward looking -
No Thanx! I will NEVER buy a Face-ID device.
Don't shoe-horn things into consumers faces that they've never asked for and don't take away things they care deeply about. Enjoy the free-slide in sales. It may not be immediate, but it will be profound.
There will be no free-slide in sales. You will get over it eventually just like everybody else. We will all find out that Face ID is way superior over Touch ID just as we experienced with many past (Apple) innovations we were skeptical about at first, but that turned out to be great. You should try to have a little more foresight.
Displacing the display with a notch is the furthest thing from giving the user more usable screen estate. The only info that will be displayed at the top will be battery, wifi signal, etc. When you view videos/pictures, there will be borders on the top and bottom, because of the difference in aspect ratio 16:9 content vs 19.5:9 display. There would still be borders, even without the notch when viewing videos/pictures, BUT it wouldn't have that eyesore when zooming in, or viewing any content in landscape mode. Believe it or not. The iPhone 8 Plus has a larger screen than the iPhone X.
And while you're at it, why don't you go ahead and buy a walkman and a typewriter. Those bastards should never have replaced paper by a screen.
PrimeSense, the technology provider of Microsoft's Xbox Kinect is now owned by Apple. Face ID should be based on a more advanced version of PrimeSense's technology.