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"We predict all new 2H18F iPhone models will likely abandon fingerprint recognition" - that not a prediction, thats 50\50, basically covering his ass from any direction... everyone can "predict" that.
I don't think you'll find any definition of the word 'likely' that associates a 50/50 chance to it.
 
Oh no how will all the neckbeards in their moms basements with no lighting unlock their phones ?
 
I hope you are right, but even the demo of the iPhone X didn't work as planned. When has that last happened at any Apple demo? I understand the that the problem was actually a security feature, but the whole point of any ID is quick accurate authentication of the user.
You are drawing conclusions based on a sample of one. And stuff has failed in Apple demos before. Remember when Jobs tossed a device that didn't work off stage?
So far as I can tell Apple has discussed the properties of FaceID only with respect to false positives, in effect citing evidence that it is extremely unlikely that somebody other than you will not be able to unlock the phone. That's swell. However, they have not discussed the issue of false negatives, in which the phone doesn't recognise you.
But has Apple ever discussed false negatives with TouchID?
I hope Face ID works, but if it doesn't it makes the price of the iPhone X very high for a phone that you would have to unlock through typing a password.
From what we know, the OLED display is the biggest reason for the price increase, not the FaceID components.
 
I actually gave up explaining people same thing over and over! 3’d of November can’t come soon enough so all this drama comes to an end.

likely will not stop on nov.3rd

there are just people who complain first - rationalize or accept later.. and i don't think that will stop.. once they accept faceID, they'll be complaining about the next thing..

but there are people in this thread, on this exact page, who were saying this just a few years ago regarding touchID:

• Which means that as well as stealing your phone the thieves will now also take your thumbs, probably easier than breaking a pin code after all... I look forward to these good times!

• So what are you gaining in reality from the 5? A fingerprint sensor won't affect me since I don't use a pin

• a Fingerprint sensor isn't as big a deal as the fanboy types are making out - it's a security improvement that limits the need for pin-codes and potentially passwords (not presently though), that's it.
..who are now arguing the superiority and/or ease of use of touchID over faceID.. or who were saying:

•While not innovative I expect many of us simply want a slightly larger screen in a similar-sized package to make reading web text and watching YouTube videos a little easier, 4.3-4.5" max is plenty. That would be enough for many like me to warrant an upgrade

..and they're now arguing the notch on the X is taking up valuable screen space.. :rolleyes:

idk, argue with these people if you find entertainment value in it.. but don't get too worked up or expect to change their views with your points.. it's not going to happen that way... only time will make it happen and they're going to make the realizations on their own.. which is fine.

what's not ok (imo) is.. they're not going to learn from the past regarding this and instead of sitting back and waiting to try the new methods, they'll immediately assume they know all about it and start insulting other people who are genuinely excited to try the upgraded tech.. oh well.
 
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I don't get why both cannot co-exist... Maybe the device's cost skyrockets? But I'd love a setup where both are there
You want a notch at the bottom too? There certainly is the cost aspect if 99% of all users will only use one. The number of people who would want the device to require two different identification markers before it unlocks is fairly small. And then there is the possibility that if FaceID is better than TouchID and everybody will eventually move to it anyway. Offering both methods would then just slow this transition.
 
Me too, when I can't get it anymore, I will be abandoning iPhone, but Ebay should have plenty of new old stock devices with Touch ID for years to come.
No you won't. You'll be on here two years from now talking about how much you love it.
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Amazing how someone can't have a opinion even though it is 100% known how it is going to work. The only remaining question is how well it identifies someone.
You would think, however, half the complainers on here don't seem to understand how it actually works.
 
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@nfl46 you hooked one.:p

Dear cfurlin,
By chance good sir, are you familiar with the "/s"? What about Poe's Law?
Although the Cyber is hard, it is a lot less embarrassing if you know the basics.

I don’t do cyber. I am a human with social skills.

Apparently spelling is hard.
 
It's not the tech. It's the user experience . Even if touchid was 3 times slower it's a great user experience in regards how you interact with the device .

Ummm I'm talking about having to stare at my iPhone now, it's what you do with the Samsung. I unlock my iPhone without looking at it.
You're again assuming that the iPhone X needs the same 'starring' as the Samsung. And you might be able to unlock your phone without looking at it, but you won't be able to use the screen without looking at it. What great things can you do with your iPhone after unlocking it in your pocket?
 
Whether or not the FaceID works well or not, whether or not the notch is good or bad design (it's bad :p) the iPhone X is still too big for me to consider it - it'll be the same for many I expect too.

The 6 was about the limit of what I'd be ok using as someone who always uses a phone one-handed and I changed to a far better SE, in my opinion. The X is larger than the 6, it's pretty much a phablet. I think it should have actually been smaller than the 6/7/8 but with a larger screen - best of all worlds and back to Apples core (ahem) values of user experience and usability. Price doesn't matter and paying more for bigger has never been appealing to me - happy to pay more for a better product regardless.
The iPhone X is virtually the same size as the 6. It's anything but a "phablet".
 
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Never bought into the whole idea of faced id as a single unlocking mechanism. What happens if you're in a meeting and need to respond quickly to a text/email without raising your phone above the table level to look at it for unlock?
If you can read and reply to a message without looking at the screen, kudos to you.
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The notch looks crap in MANY people's opinion - have a look at "the internet". It's a chunk out of a screen, it's not elegant.
There is a difference between looking at pictures of a phone and looking at the actual phone (let alone using the phone). And almost every time the look of something gets changed a substantial portion of people won't like the new look simply because it is different from what they are used to. Almost all will get over that very quickly after having experienced the new look in real life for a short while.
 
The iPhone X is virtually the same size as the 6. It's anything but a "phablet".

The 6 is already pretty big for one-handed use, the X is taller, wider and thicker - and requires pull down menus from the top which will require shuffling in hand to reach unless you're a basketball player, increasing chances of dropping the phone. Going all screen would have been great for a slightly smaller phone - larger phones already have large screens after all.
 
Ok.... how do I make this simpler. By the time I’m ready to look at the phone, it’s already unlocked and at the home screen.
And who says that won't be the case with the iPhone X? You can actually apply the upward sliding motion already while you raise the phone to your face.
 
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There is a difference between looking at pictures of a phone and looking at the actual phone (let alone using the phone). And almost every time the look of something gets changed a substantial portion of people won't like the new look simply because it is different from what they are used to. Almost all will get over that very quickly after having experienced the new look in real life for a short while.

Getting used to it or not, it's still an obstruction... You can't really not see it, like someone tall sitting in the row in front at the cinema.

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Aside from Gal Gadot what catches your eye in that image?
 
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And who says that won't be the case with the iPhone X? You can actually apply the upward sliding motion already while you raise the phone to your face.

huh? You cant swipe up to unlock until you have been authenticated....
 
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Hope Apple keeps the 4" form factor and makes a 1080p screen resolution with at least 400ppi! The X is still to big for me. Do not like the width.
 
I don’t and I won’t. Simple.
I've recently heard a nice five-year-old's example of applying logic: "If there are no monsters in the closet, why am I afraid?". It is your prerogative to not open the closet.
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Getting used to it or not, it's still an obstruction... You can't really not see it, like someone tall sitting in the row in front at the cinema.
I think if somebody tall sits at the periphery such that she or he obscures only the edge of the cinema screen, you will get used to it.
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huh? You cant swipe up to unlock until you have been authenticated....
How do you know? The swipe won't unlock the phone without authentication but nothing says, you cannot start the swipe before authentication has been completed.
 
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huh? You cant swipe up to unlock until you have been authenticated....
Federighi:

"The swipe and scan are simultaneous with no real waiting period or delay."
..in the same way, i'm assuming, the button press and scan are simultaneous with no real waiting period or delay.. regarding touchID.

further:

If you lift your phone and swipe up immediately, there’s a good chance that the Face ID system will have performed its authentication fast enough to have unlocked your device by the time you finish your swipe. That’s how fast it is.
 
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Aside from Gal Gadot what catches your eye in that image?

subjectively speaking..
to me, most cinema movies are going to look a lot better on iPhone X, even with the notches, than they will on the screens of 6/7/8 Plus models..

this includes the Gal Gadot movie which was shot 2.39:1

as an example:

iPhone Plus on top.. X on bottom.

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..again.. just my personal preference.. but if i had to choose between watching Pulp Fiction (or just about any movie), i think i'd prefer to watch it on the X as opposed to any previous iPhone.
 
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