I wonder what the actual numbers are as the 80k on hand was a guess and this doubling that estimate is another guess. Guess we have to wait for the next quarters financials to find out what the revenue was for VP launch to approximate sales?
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Kuo: Apple Has Already Sold Up to 180,000 Vision Pro Headsets
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Commercially? No. But is the AVP really worth 7 times more than the cost of the Quest 3? Maybe to some but I doubt the vast majority would be willing to pay that kind of premium for something that is going to collect dust more than anything else.
As much as I would love to see AVP succeed, it's going to need to come down in price first. It doesn't need the eyesight (or whatever they are calling the front) screen. I don't know how much that would lower the costs but they could start there.
Even if the AVP is somehow a "must have" item. We are all going to have a really hard time convincing friends and family to drop $3500 on one.
This pre-sales of a device no one has used yet, we have no idea how many sales there will be the first year. And I'm not really sure why so many are wishing for it to fail, Apple has made some huge improvements over current headsets in the market.
The funny thing is that most will need that financial incentive/hardship to force themselves to wear them for more than an hour or two. If it's free, you can just shrug, set it aside, and never use it again having lost nothing. But if you spend $4k+ on this thing you're going to force yourself to use it as much as possible.
I think a large portion (not all) of the negativity comes from people that might like it but can't afford it.
1. "we have no idea" is not correct. There are people who literally get paid to know. This is low. Very low.
2. I'm not wishing for it to fail by predicting that it already has. This is an extremely flawed product that never should have been released in the first place, and if Apple's own engineers had their way, it would not have been.
A lot of the cost is coming from all the cameras and sensors. Then you have the better displays, sure they could've made it all in a plastic but that's not the Apple way.
1. We have no idea what Apples sales goals are or what their exceptions are.
2. It is not flawed product and you are basing the engineers feeling you heard on rumors. People that build this kind of stuff take a lot of pride in what they are creating.
I can afford it. I just can't justify buying it at its current price point. I can also happily wait for G2 or G3 before pulling the trigger. I've played the G1 game with Apple enough to know that sometimes it is better to wait before jumping right into something new.
Apple will give me 12 months at ZERO percent interest to pay for this thing with my Apple Card if I choose to buy one. Using credit at ZERO percent interest is ALWAYS a good thing because I get to keep my money working for ME. I have done many such purchases with zero percent financing. Not a problem if you have the money and discipline to pay it back on time.
Since this is an entirely new prodict line with no real comparison and something that has to be experienced on a personal level, I think many people interested in this are waiting for reviews from actual people outside of Apple or an Apple controlled environment, to put them through their paces and demonstrate ‘real world’ usage situations.
Within a month sales should start reflecting that.
It also won’t hurt when Apple is able to make a version of this for 1/2 or 1/3 the price.
Within a month sales should start reflecting that.
It also won’t hurt when Apple is able to make a version of this for 1/2 or 1/3 the price.
I agree but also think this isn't anything new.
I am old enough to remember when video games first became available for home and portable use. So I could sit in front of the TV playing for hours on end, or take my Tomy electronic games where ever I went.
I watch educational films made in the 50s where kids were outside playing or working on stuff (model planes, wood projects, social get togethers, etc.) all the time. Times they have a changed.
I would like the Vision Pro for watching movies on an airplane with noise cancelling audio. Block out everything else for a few hours.
You still have to pay $3500 back - as well as $25 for apple care and shell out at least another $100 for a case and $200 for a spare battery. And another $150 if you need prescription lens.
And then you need to subscribe to whatever apps you want ( don’t count on developers just letting you use the existing iOS versions - I’m sure they will take every opportunity to up charge for the Vision version
Interesting! Will be cool to see once they make some prototypes and give the media hands on time. Certainly sounds impressive.
I wonder how those numbers compare to when the analog version was introduced?
AVP is worth 7 times worth more because of the Apple logo.
If the exact same device was made by Xiaomi for $3500, nobody would buy it.
I mean, if there's nothing close to it in terms of screen quality, build quality, sensors and software then it might be for a good chunk of people. Things are all relative. Certainly at this price point it won't be a mass-market appealing device. But I was more so curious about your point specifically about the pricing being indefensible. If the components and package are significantly higher quality than the competition then you can certainly defend the price.
If your point is the price is indefensible for a mass-market VR headset, then I think sure but I don't believe that's what they are going for with this initial release given how few quantities they are producing over the span of an entire year and the price they set.
I just don't believe for a second Apple is expecting this headset to be anything other than a launching point for their AR/VR ecosystem.
This is MacRumors. People obviously have money here if they can afford buying a new iPhone every year.
I'm a buyer at $1499 or even $1999.
But I won't be caught with "1st gen iPad or Apple Watch Series 0 syndrome" on a $3500 device that'll be worth $800 on eBay in 2025 the day Apple ships a $1499 "non pro" option.
If this were $999, F it... I'd have a preorder in right now.
$3500 isn't "F it" money for me. And being someone fairly sensitive to motion sickness, this could also be "I tried it for 5 mins in an Apple Store, got nauseous - done."
But I won't be caught with "1st gen iPad or Apple Watch Series 0 syndrome" on a $3500 device that'll be worth $800 on eBay in 2025 the day Apple ships a $1499 "non pro" option.
If this were $999, F it... I'd have a preorder in right now.
$3500 isn't "F it" money for me. And being someone fairly sensitive to motion sickness, this could also be "I tried it for 5 mins in an Apple Store, got nauseous - done."
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flippity flop. obviously initial wow factor and early adopter/disposable cash consumer plus Apple name will generate some amount of initial interest. But will it sustain?
I don't see it. I think the box on the face jury is still out.
I don't see it. I think the box on the face jury is still out.
Kids will be back to playing outside, working on stuff like model airplanes and wood projects, just virtually! /s Well not really /s, it's going to happen, it's just very sad and all these tech companies, including Apple, are pushing us into this direction. That's why my kids get very little screen time (and why I ditched my Quest headset), but I can only control that for so long.
Herp derp. Of course it will sell out on launch. It’s Apple and a new product. Let’s see that return rate after the 14 day free testing…. 😆