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Kuo: Apple to Launch 'iPhone SE 2' in Early 2020 With Similar Design as iPhone 8, A13 Chip, and 3GB RAM
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If it has a camera bump it's not an SE
the reason is that the demand is almost certainly not there to justify the requisite r&d for such a form factor. miniaturizing an iPhone x is much more of a taxing issue than making a max model, with a smaller interested user base to boot. the notch simply wouldn’t fit in the width of that 4 inch design and i imagine a lot of custom work would need to be done to get anywhere near a feature to feature match for this compact form factor. This budget strategy is the best we’re gonna get
The rumored 5.4” model will be the closest thing to a full-screen SE we’re going to get. If you want that, this budget SE2 is not for you. Hold out til next fall.
It wouldn't make sense for people who are using iPhone 8 and want to buy a smaller phone to buy a new SE if the form factor of new SE is using iPhone 8.
keep same size as iphone se and get rid off the bezels ... best phone
whole front glass bezel free
whole front glass bezel free
Um ya, because it isn't replacing the small size of the SE. Which kinda seems like the whole point of the SE? You know being a small phone?
Complaining about people voicing legit complaints, seems worse than people voicing legit complaints IMO.
Does anyone even make 32GB storage any more? 64GB probably only still exists because of demand from Apple. So Apple will just reuse those parts. Maybe cheaper to use a 64GB chip that's been firmware locked to only use 32GB.
Maybe because they want an upgraded SE and not an iPhone 8.
A “small and premium iPhone” (which is not what the SE was) would be such a niche product that Apple would need to be very stupid to make one.
If my SE breaks and this will be cheap enough, it might be an option. Otherwise I'll rather wait for 11 to come down in price (hopefully to somewhere around current 8 price). They're both large so not much reason to get this, unless I will really need to. I don't really like the design of 8 and I would love to have that 11's night mode and wide camera. Night camera performance is actually the only complaint I have with SE.
The iPhone SE launched six months after the iPhone 6S and shared its internal hardware.
The 6S was the flagship phone at the time.
Tell me again why "Small and Premium" is stupid when Apple has done it once before?
I can see why people wanting a smaller device are frustrated, the iPhone 11 is quite bulky compared to the iPhone 7/8. The iPhone 11 Pro is only slightly larger than the iPhone 7/8, but it costs $1100 for one with a decent amount of storage. My strategy is to keep a year behind the curve (just picked up an iPhone XS for $600, sold my iPhone X for $625 
), but for folks walking into an Apple store looking for a phone, there’s definitely a hole in the lineup.
), but for folks walking into an Apple store looking for a phone, there’s definitely a hole in the lineup.
The new iPhone SE form factor needs to remains the same but the screen size can be bigger by extending edge to edge without the home button.
It was the size of the SE that made it popular.
Some changes in the iPhone 8 and rebranding it to the SE2 doesn't excite me.
Give me a smaller phone then the SE2 with no screen bezels and I'll be excited
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It's the same issue in the States with people looking for a car with a standard transmission. If it's offered at all, it is almost always only an option in the Spartan Special trim. "Yeah, you can have a manual, but you can't have that and CarPlay, or a backup camera, or seat belts." Oh. Cool. Thanks.
At least Apple sort of gets at this by making the smallest form factor iPhone one of the Pro's. I for one am excited to get my hands on mine and ditch the behemoth Xs Max I have been regretting for the last year without having to give up the Pro feature set.
They’d have to engineer a totally new case, and go with FaceID, so it would be expensive. The notch would look huge on such a small screen. It would a really cool product, but an expensive niche one. They more immediately need to offer a smaller more affordable product in their lineup.
It was marketed by Apple as a low cost phone but I believe that most of the demand was fueled by its small size.
I am not saying whether is right or not (i.e, moral or possible) but that's what Apple reports in their financial statement - 62.8% for services and 37%-38% for hardware
Apple can decide to accept a 5%-15% margin on this phone but that's not something they do very often - I don't know of any hardware they sell at a lost or at cost.
Apple reports 62.8 percent margin in services business as it discloses the unit's profit for first time
Apple's earnings report revealed the company has a 62.8 percent profit margin from its growing services business, which includes Apple Pay.
The SE launched 3 years ago when the flagship iPhone was 4.7” and the largest phone available was 5.5” - it was neither small nor premium, it was cheap (being small was a collateral). Plus it was half the price of the 6S.
Now the flagship iPhone is 5.8” or 6.1” (depending on who you ask) and larger phones are the norm.
Apple would simply replicate the formula - phone from 2.5 years ago + updated internals = iPhone SE. As a collateral, 4.7 is the new “small”.
I love the design of the SE. The bezel size does make it look outdated. Give me edge to edge screen, head phone jack and a better camera and I’ll gladly upgrade from my iPhone 7.
Micron for example, still makes 2GB MLC NAND. There are plenty of embedded applications like Apple Watch or vehicle entertainment that don't need much storage.