I pre-ordered a new watch but I'm hoping to go to the apple store in town Friday and see if I can snag one. Let's see how high demand is...
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Kuo: Apple Watch Series 4 Pre-Orders Above Expectations, iPhone XS Seeing Lackluster Demand
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Haha people who like Apple products are like a cult. That’s so creative. I wonder why nobody thought of that before.More like Growing Cult Worshipers than Mega Corporation Lovers.
A few people saying they want something on a tech forum is not evidence. I want things too. Is that evidence that Apple should make them?
There is plenty of evidence that not enough people want it. The SE would have sold better when it was released and was spec-equal, more or less, to the 6S. Android phone manufacturers would be producing smaller phones if people wanted them. Apple insisted for a long time that people didn't want bigger phones and stuck to the smaller iPhone form factor while Samsung and other Android manufacturers pushed for larger screen sizes. Apple was wrong. When the larger 6 launched, it blew everything else away.
There's no doubt that some people want a smaller phone, but clearly not enough for ANY phone manufacturer to go after that market. I also think you're right about physical size to some extent. Squeezing the iPhone XS into an SE-sized body would be quite an engineering marvel. I'm not sure they can do it.
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I disagree. There's a lot more to read into it. The goal is a common codebase for apps. Once that happens, it doesn't matter if the target machine runs iOS or MacOS, is powered by an A-series chip or an Intel chip. MacOS will die in the next ten years. iOS with a MacOS UI will replace it.
I got the X last year at a sizeable cost, I as many others have also said can not afford another £1000+ when we still have a serviceable device. Maybe iPhone 11 or 12 in another year and they could get a sale then.
I made it as a neutral comment. A side bar. I'd welcome it, but honestly I don't have no dog in the fight. With 5G coming down the pike, I'd be surprise if I wasn't using a cloud service for iOS development in the next five years.
THANK YOU! It’s amazing reading some of these comments lmao. This forum is notttttt a measure of Apple’s success or lack there of.
Apple knows what they’re doing and this will be another record setting holiday season. They’re gonna sell boatloads.
"MacOS will die in the next ten years. iOS with a MacOS UI will replace it"
For that to happen Pro app developers like Apple, Adobe, Autodesk, etc., will have to port their software over to Marzipan. With the exception of Apple, I am not sure that they will and if they do it will be one hell of a long undertaking.
Going from a 7+ to the Xs, looking forward to one handed use again (without the phone nearly slipping out of my hands). As for notch removal, you may be waiting quite some time. I hope I'm wrong though.
The XR is a fusion of regular/Plus and X features. Apple chose the trade offs it thought would make the model as appealing as possible to the widest number of people. Not everyone will be satisfied with the result; Apple knew this going in.
Those who want dual cameras are in the same situation as you, i.e. having to go to the XS series to get a (formerly) Plus feature. That’s the way Apple decided to segment it, and I’m sure it was a deliberate move to “feature-pull” users to the more expensive XS series.
But they also pushed the large screen and TrueDepth/FaceID of the X down to the $749 XR. So some who might have gone with an XS this year will be content to buy the XR.
You win some, you lose some. For some, the $699 8 Plus is an attractive option. But to address your opening sentence, the XR is the 2018 entry level device, and it is an upgrade (overall) from the 8. There’s no point in continuing to compare the pricing to 2014, especially with the increase in the storage tiers and the high prices of NAND storage. Sure the 6 was $649 but that was for 16GB; the 64GB model was $749—the same price as the XR today.
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They will. Because marzipan doesn’t just give them the mac customer base, but also the iOS customer base, which is, by dollars spent on apps, by far the biggest game in town.
I agree. The fact that the hardware of all three new models is so similar makes me think they've got some special stuff planned on the horizon and they're making sure a large proportion of devices are ready to handle it.
I fully expect to only upgrade my iPhone every 3 years now with the quality of the hardware. My last update was 3 years ago (iPhone 6s) but before that it was always every two years. This will help with their environmental kudos too - only a moron (or an environmental vandal) would upgrade their phone every year.
People said the same about Classic to OS X. Adobe has already embraced iOS. So has Microsoft. There are really only two "Pro" app developers that matter, Adobe and Microsoft. Autodesk isn't really taken seriously on the Mac. Apple will no doubt make all of their own apps Marzipan-compliant.
I think the writing is on the wall for OS X. Once Apple's own chips can deliver the necessary performance and the majority of Mac and iOS apps are Marzipan-compliant, OS X dies.
The Xr is the new mainstream. It is not the new SE. The 7 serves the budget role now.
It's the getting here to there problem though. Currently, those apps have no business on an iOS devise.
I think my point was that the Xr Retina display is “good enough” for most folks. It’s over 300, which was always Apple’s number for phone class retina.
And I think Apple is OK with that. The Xs Max appeals to Plus owners who didn’t bite on the X last year. The Watch is a meaningful upgrade. The Xs is geared to 6s and 7 owners who didn’t upgrade last year. The Xr is geared toward 6s and 7 owners who can’t justifiy a $1000 phone.
If they don’t meet that market need, others will. Affinity, etc. So they have no choice.
I mean, who would have thought in 2007 that Microsoft would offer reasonably full featured versions of office for iOS?
“Apple has already seen stagnating demand. On an annual basis, it's sold about the same number of phones in each of the last four years. In fact, the number of phones it sold in the year-long period that ended in June was 2% fewer than the number it sold in the same period that ended in June 2015.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/app...stream-consumers-2018-9?utm_source=reddit.com
I think it’s clear why Apple is going with higher priced phones, though this phenomenon of slowing smartphone growth is by no means exclusive to Apple. If they want to continue steadily increasing their profits, they also have to increase the price when sales are plateauing. Of course, this has the effect of reinforcing the plateauing sales as consumers seek longevity out of more and more expensive devices.
The standard 6 is for many people because it’s only got a 4.7” screen on it. Try comfortably reaching the opposing top corner of the bezel on a 6 though and you have what it would be like trying do so on a X or Xs. Most people probably can’t do it without shifting their natural grip on the phone.
https://www.businessinsider.com/app...stream-consumers-2018-9?utm_source=reddit.com
I think it’s clear why Apple is going with higher priced phones, though this phenomenon of slowing smartphone growth is by no means exclusive to Apple. If they want to continue steadily increasing their profits, they also have to increase the price when sales are plateauing. Of course, this has the effect of reinforcing the plateauing sales as consumers seek longevity out of more and more expensive devices.
The standard 6 is for many people because it’s only got a 4.7” screen on it. Try comfortably reaching the opposing top corner of the bezel on a 6 though and you have what it would be like trying do so on a X or Xs. Most people probably can’t do it without shifting their natural grip on the phone.
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I have the s3 and think the s4 is a total snooze. If you’re someone who actually needs an EKG or fall detection, then yeah. For the rest of us, it’s the same device with a bigger screen (and jacked up prices). Hugely disappointing.