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I might have to upgrade from my series 5. My battery life is terrible after 2.5 years.
Unless you really just want to upgrade for other reasons, you can replace the battery for $79.
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The Apple Watch is a very slow moving device, two years of pandemic where temperature is an everyday thing for all. You’d think it would be a priority but hey real life is not very profitable.

Well, I'm sure they would have liked to have it ready earlier but some things take time to prove, no matter the priority, and at the end of the day if the temperatures are not reliable then it's half baked.
 
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So we can arbitrarily blame people without evidence of a problem? Can we blame senttoschool for all apple bugs?
The evidence is Apple's constant call to return to office. If they were performing as well or better WFH, they wouldn't try to hard to get people to come back to the office.
 
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Unless you really just want to upgrade for other reasons, you can replace the battery for $79.
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My and my wife's Series 5 Watches are still fine, but I may consider doing this when the time comes. Nothing since Series 5 has been very interesting, aside from maybe the form factor and screen change in Series 7. The service in Canada is $99, which is about US$77, very reasonable.

Just a note though, AFAIK, Apple won't do the battery upgrade (which means just replacing the whole Watch) just because someone wants it. I believe the battery has to have deteriorated to a point which meets their eligibility threshold. If it doesn't, you're SOL.
 
If you don't have a fever and you're not dead then chances are your body temperature is fine. Happy to help.
There's so many other health implications: best time of day to exercise, heat stroke, ovulating period, illness detection, etc.

I want to add that I have been looking for a reason to upgrade from a Series 5, and yet I have not found one. Blood pressure, body temperature and glucose monitoring could be game changers for people to fine-tune their days. It would be especially helpful to athletes.
 
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So the current watch and presumably previous watches have the sensor to read temperature but Apple will only put the software it has yet to fix on newer watches that will use the exact same sensor? Its a software issue not a hardware issue.

The best feature Apple doesn't take advantage of is that they could add new features for the hardware in previously released products just like they add new apps to them. But if they stopped selling it they'll just keep updating it until it feels old and sluggish instead.
 
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I'm holding out for BP monitoring. When that comes out, it'll finally be worth the plunge imo.
I'm currently trialling this:

I'll know more about how good/useful it is in a few days, but it needs an arm cuff (included) in order to calibrate the wrist device, and it has to be recalibrated at least once a month.
 
I have an S5 and before an S2 so technically I would upgrade this year if I keep the same gap. If there is a big battery life jump or some new features I’d possibly bite but I don’t get the same urge to upgrade as I do an iPhone.
 
Absolutely not. It's been shown and proven over and over again that remote/hybrid destroys creativity which is what R&D is about.

For my personal experience, my silicon valley tech company has definitely decreased a notch in creativity and efficiency while WFH/hybrid.
I agree you can't R&D WFH but Hybrid is not a bad idea. There is a good amount of report writing that needs to get done and research that 2 days a week WFH is not bad. Those 2 days get used for review meetings, writing, research/reading etc.
 
Body temperature, blood glucose, blood pressure, and maybe UV exposure monitoring (similar to how environmental sound monitoring works) are pretty much all I can think of right now that Apple could add to the watch.
 
If you don't have a fever and you're not dead then chances are your body temperature is fine. Happy to help.
The reason that the opposite of this being true is going to be a problem is that it’s going to further burden healthcare. People freak out that their O2 dipped down to 92% for a short time during (likely REM) sleep and are otherwise healthy. Humans have never measured their vitals every second of the day. If you are awake and your oxygen is 92%, and that’s far from your baseline, yes there is a problem. But seeing your heart rate at 49 or your oxygen at 94% while sleeping, and now a temp of 101 while raging outside at a music festival is not usually an issue. Our bodies fluctuate. Your temp goes up, you sweat to bring it down. In time people will learn but as all this new tech and 24/7 health monitoring emerges, it causes people to say “omg google says my oxygen should be 96% or above! Why did it go to 92% in my sleep last night!?”

I went off on a general conversation not too specific to your comment. The reason I replied was because the temp may also be elevated in certain situations such as vigorous outdoor activity for a very brief time period until you cool down. In this situation you are also fine.
 
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What are you talking about? I don't sell medical devices. You're confusing me with someone else. I'm just telling you what I think about the lay of the land for Apple Watch features.

As for the oxygen sensor, Apple likely won't get FDA clearance for that anytime soon. In fact, I'm not convinced Apple will even try in the near term.
I apologize for the mix up. Unless you can read an EKG (and i can) it isn not that great. I think somewhere in the literature Apple said that their devices should not take place of seeing a doctor. I was out grilling today. I left my phone on my desk because I didn't want it to get damaged by my cooking skills. The CGM sent a message that it lost signal. Sure did. My arm and sensor were out cooking steaks, but it would have been nice if the device could have connected with the bluetooth on my watch and relayed that to the phone. I have the cell version. IF that technology is available , why not exploit it. The watch will never be that great for health , but it would or might send someone to the hospital if it thought something was wrong. Much like that EKG thing on tv, put your fingers here on the pad, it send the tracing to your phone, you can show it to your doctor who will do a 12 lead anyway. The point being. Yeah, I like the features, I still see my doctor, but to be able to monitor things I know are not that great are worth it. No, I am not getting a new watch unless this one dies or something great comes by.
 
Probably because of WFH employees. Get them back to the office ASAP.

Edit: I'm absolutely not kidding. All the delays and bugs over the last 2.5 years must have a lot to do with employees "working" from home. This is why Cook and other big tech companies are so adamant that employees return to office. They clearly all have strong internal evidence that shows execution has been lacking since COVID.
Been saying the same thing since the beginning, it was also easy to predict that WFH would severely affect software quality. Same as when they migrated to the spaceship, whenever people aren’t in their offices or on the move quality takes a dip, this shouldnt surprise anyone but oh well, looking at the people that dislike your comment…
 
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I would like to see that messages received on the watch and shared on computer or iphone when could be deleted . Or at least deleted option when read on the phone.
 
The Apple Watch is a very slow moving device, two years of pandemic where temperature is an everyday thing for all. You’d think it would be a priority but hey real life is not very profitable.
You better believe that could Apple have had it ready then they would have shipped it, and they definitely missed an opportunity and they know it, but they couldn’t help it.
They would have sold so many Apple Watches to so many insecure people that felt the need to monitor anything including their temperature during the pandemic. They lost money and they are aware of that.
Yours is a strange comment. Saying Apple cares about profits and then talking about how they effectively didn’t care about profits.
 
Body temperature, blood glucose, blood pressure, and maybe UV exposure monitoring (similar to how environmental sound monitoring works) are pretty much all I can think of right now that Apple could add to the watch.
UV exposure monitoring? How would that work? Where would the sensor be? What if your wrist is in a shadow but your face isn’t? Like in a sleeve? How accurate could a sensor be if it’s is moving and UV light gets defused constantly?
 
I can see glucose monitoring eventually becoming available since we know it is possible to monitor blood sugar with a skin patch. But I am highly skeptical if we will see blood pressure monitoring unless their is a major advancement of medical science where a blood pressure cuff is no longer needed.
Could work with smart bands.
 
Unless you stayed at watch OS 2.x, I’m calling you a liar.
For me, 3.x was a performance killer on my S0. Every touch took seconds to react.

There’s no way the watch 6 doesn’t feel faster unless you just use it to tell time.

This. I jumped from s3 to s6 and the improvement was dramatic and stark. My series 3 was usable (unlike my series 0 – how did they think that was a finished product worth releasing??) but there was a clear delay in doing pretty much anything. The smaller bezels and larger s6 screen also felt more natural versus the cramped series 3. Yes, the blood oximeter and EKG were nice (and probably a little gimmicky) but it was the increase in speed that finally made Apple Watch feel natural to use and useful for more than just telling time and seeing notifications.

Having the Watch work reliably when you lift your wrist and report back without having to hold your wrist up waiting, is the baseline for any smart watch and Series 3 was well below that. There's no way anyone can say there isn't a noticeable difference between the experimental series 0 to the series 6. Completely different experiences.
 
The reason that the opposite of this being true is going to be a problem is that it’s going to further burden healthcare. People freak out that their O2 dipped down to 92% for a short time during (likely REM) sleep and are otherwise healthy. Humans have never measured their vitals every second of the day. If you are awake and your oxygen is 92%, and that’s far from your baseline, yes there is a problem. But seeing your heart rate at 49 or your oxygen at 94% while sleeping, and now a temp of 101 while raging outside at a music festival is not usually an issue. Our bodies fluctuate. Your temp goes up, you sweat to bring it down. In time people will learn but as all this new tech and 24/7 health monitoring emerges, it causes people to say “omg google says my oxygen should be 96% or above! Why did it go to 92% in my sleep last night!?”

I went off on a general conversation not too specific to your comment. The reason I replied was because the temp may also be elevated in certain situations such as vigorous outdoor activity for a very brief time period until you cool down. In this situation you are also fine.

Pretty much exactly my outlook on the matter. I'm all for things like ECG monitoring or annual cancer screening and the like, but in more general terms unless you're sick there's no reason to assume the worst. Humans have never needed AI sentinels monitoring our bodies 24/7 and there's no need to start now. But that is only my opinion and if people want temperature monitoring on their Apple Watch then that's their business. I just won't be getting excited about it personally ?
 
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