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Apple is going back to Touch ID as soon as automobile drivers go back to riding horses and the airlines go back to prop-driven commercial passenger planes. Jeez. I guess it's a waste of time for Apple to try to move forward if users only want to keep using what they have. That being said, I think Touch ID is absolutely fine, but I have an open mind on moving forward to something new if it's being offered and works just as well.

FaceID, imo, doesn't seem to work 'just as well' because it's slower and also costs more - the research and dev plus hardware to realize FaceID was not free.
 
Makes sense to me. Consider when you interact with another person. To get there attention do you poke em in the face? No, you look at them and make eye contact, then start your interaction. Now you can do that with your iPhone X.
Another good reason to stop interacting with live people and do it over your device. :confused:

Exactly. I watched some more videos (just to stoke the internal fires a bit :) ), and marveling how elegant the new unlock system is. I’ve always wanted to be able to simply interact quickly (in the case swipe up) to open the device while knowing I’M the only person it would allow it to because it knows my face. Now i can with iPhone X.

Typing ina passcode/spending 2 secs to read your fingerprint for identification is so 1980s.
 
Face ID is a dead horse nothing is as easy your finger !!!
God I miss Steve , if He could just show up and BITCH SLAP Tim Cook !!!
 
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so next year we will have faceID into the iPhone Plus, and starting with 2019, we will start to see it into ipads and the macbook redesign
 
For better or worse Kuo's predictions and analysis have prevented to be quite accurate. He was the first person to suggest the iPhone X would eliminate touch id

But I think the majority of what he says is just expected, Apple release new flagship with FaceID rather than TouchID - will they filter it down to future models if it works or leave them looking 5 years out of date with giant bezels and buttons? Tough one. Everyone with supply chain rumours said TouchID wasn't ready behind the glass yet, Apple had bought up facial recognition companies previously, again an easy suggestion.
 
Try telling Siri to open something like Google Maps, or Messages when your phone is locked...smh
i don't have Google Maps installed ;)


it works with Messages.. just say "text so-and-so"
it also works with Maps.

that said, it's looks like Apple is not allowing communicating with certain competitor apps through Siri with the same range of freedom as you can with the native apps..
which, to me, sounds pretty lame.
 
I was thinking kind of the same. In a way Apple is the victim of their own success.

They create a Touch ID system on their devices that works amazingly well. Best around. No one else has one better. Yet they are forced to abandon the tech even though they are the best just because consumers want buttonless screens. And no one can successfully create the tech under the screen.

Qualcomm Has the tech in their latest Chips to implement underscreen finger prnnt sensing and Vivo already launched a phone with the feature, so it is possible. It will be interesting to see the direction the market goes and whether some, e.g. Apple swim against the tide.

I think the perfect solution would be to not even be aware that you have authenticated your phone and just by using it, it knows you.
 
i don't have Google Maps installed ;)


it works with Messages.. just say "text so-and-so"
it also works with Maps.

that said, it's looks like Apple is not allowing communicating with certain competitor apps through Siri with the same range of freedom as you can with the native apps..
which, to me, sounds pretty lame.

I wrote “open Messages” not text somebody. Yes, you need to unlock to do many Siri actions.
 
The point they made was that the one in a million would not hold out for identical twins. Ones derived from same zygote. Sorta being a bit obtuse looking for an actual statistical claim, in my opinion.

What I find interesting is how detractors are so all fired sure of failure for something they have yet to try out and live with. Jumping from 1 in 50,000 to one in 1,000,000 is fairly significant. Twenty fold increase in security. When did people become so picky? In other areas something twice as good would be applauded.

That's exactly the point isn't it? It sounds like for identical twins FaceID has a rate of what sounds like less than 1 in 100? 1 in 10? 1 in 2?

That number is important, if you don't trust your twin. I don't believe that's uncommon, especially if you're an adult with your own private life, and more so if both of you are involved in a dispute.

Don't get me wrong, I think Face ID is a very impressive advancement by Apple, but the whole twin things seems like a gaping security hole that they should resolve.
 
I think the perfect solution would be to not even be aware that you have authenticated your phone and just by using it, it knows you.
it will evolve to that.
i think it won't be any one thing (other than, say, a chip implant.. inside your blood.. that identifies yourself to devices)..

it will probably take a number of different type of sensors such as touch, visual, non-visual light,sound,etc to be on the device at once.. and it will identify you based off a number of factors -or- which factor is suitable to be used in the particular situation you're in.. and will be able to predict if you're wanting to access the device or not..

i.e.- what you're saying.. you do nothing and aren't necessarily aware that you've authenticated.. but you have.
so yeah.. cool stuff imo and i do think we'll see this as a reality within, say, the next decade.
 
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I know this is a rumours site and I know stories like these are how they make money and I know I came here of my own free will but sometimes I think it’s becoming exhausting. People haven’t even received their iPhone 8s yet, let alone an iPhone X which actually uses faceid and already there’s stories about what’s to come next. Could we not just wait for a couple of weeks and take a moment to just enjoy what we have? Ok that’s it, rant over.
 
I still think the "X" should have been a new SE, it makes perfect sense - 10th anniversary, new flagship is a hand-sized phone, the full screen makes it have similar area to the 7 but in a smaller package (big advantage), it can be a little thicker to cram things in because it's a smaller shape for the hand, all the unreachable pull-down gestures are now reachable without doing a hand-shuffle. People would have loved it.

It could even be called the iPhone SE-X. Marketing win.
 
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Sure you can. With the right kind of gloves (capacitance touch). Mine work pretty well, though not as good as an ungloved finger tip.
Pretty convenient to suddenly have the special case that invalidate my point.
 
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Additionally, app devs are still adding TouchID compatibility. Heck, companies like Fidelity just recently updated their 401k app to use TouchID, which I think was only a couple weeks ago (I thought it was rather amusing, and they announced it to much fanfare under the updates description).

Makes me wonder how long companies will take to now incorporate FaceID for their apps. Will iPhone X users be stuck with passcodes for years? People here might laugh, but it's now a real possibility since TouchID is gone.
This won't be an issue, because the apps don't distinguish between Face ID and Touch ID. If your phone has one, it will automatically choose that one.
 
How about click an address in a message? Jesus...

because at that point, you're using the phone.. you're looking at it.. you've veered away from the "touchID is better because" spiel since you're now looking at the phone and clicking on stuff... while your driving.

if you use touchID to unlock your phone then look at the phone, there's hardly any difference than using faceID in which you look at the phone then swipe up.. they're basically the same exact thing.


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also
i'm not sure how it is where you are but if you're ever driving through Manhattan, where people like me are walking five miles a day (for transportation.. not exercise).. and there's a whole slew of them.. and our usable space is shared with automobiles..
how about this-- stay the truck off your phone in your car..

talk to it if you must.. if you need to use certain apps while driving, and Apple doesn't offer the ability to do so, get a phone that does.. or park.. or do it at a red light.. and get honked at.. but at least you're stopped and not crashing into bikes.
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I look forward to it, but it's got to prove itself to me this year.

I'm used to Touch ID; it just works well for my case.

I don't see Apple going back to Touch ID.

I would like to use the term "Go Back"

It's not like going from a 500GB HDD to a 500GB SSD Where the SSD is better in every way.
Or like from a bad scratchy movie to a clean version of the same move.

It's a equally good, but different security method.
Both have their place.
Both will have times/scenarios they are great, and both will have times they are rubbish and a pain to use.

I hope both are available to be used in the future so you can pick which is best for you at any given time
 
Aren’t the designs of the 2018 iPhones locked down now? Apple are not waiting to see how Face ID does and then figure out how to put Touch ID under the display next summer.

At the very least, Apple have under-screen Touch ID ready to go and will decide by the end of this year.
 
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