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Kuo Increases Galaxy S10 Shipment Estimates Due to 'Spec Differentiation From iPhone Models'

I7guy said:
Sure let's measure that against Samsung Mobile division. But let's decide on this in advance, we don't want the goal posts to be moved, they have to be set in cement. I'll start with something related to the ecosystem; ekg.

Because a large majority of the posts, including the one quoted, is either hyperbole, blatantly incorrect or some form of trolling.

Churn is inevitable as well as churn to the iphone. Churn works both ways, it's not a one way street.
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Google "how many iphones were sold in the last three years".
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Still waiting for the source, not gonna let Google slide into this one, if you know what I mean. ;)
Nokia is still the best selling refrigerator. Google it.
 
1050792 said:
When you make a claim, you need a source to back up your arguments, if not, then you better not make trolling and uninformed claims. Yahoo it. ;)
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That guy is not uninformed. You may not like his position, but he is not uninformed. And it is a common internet debating tactic to cherry pick one's authoritative source.
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Bigskydoc said:
It's probably tough to get a real read on these preorder numbers. At one time I had 3 pre-orders active, as new and better deals were revealed over the week. All of these orders were for 2 phones each. So, for a time, I had preorders in for 6 phones. I have to think I'm not the only one.

I've cancelled all but the one from Best Buy. Taking advantage of the Verizon "BOGO" offer (actually a $750 discount that I applied to the S10), the Samsung $550 trade in on my son's S9 ($50 more than I paid for it), Best Buy's $50 per phone discount, free Galaxy buds. I think there is another promo that I'm missing. All told, I think it was around $400ish for the 2 phones after promos and trading in my son's S9.

I posted all of that to say, there are so many deals on this phone right now, that the numbers are hard to interpret, and it wouldn't surprise me if many of the pre-order folks had multiple orders in.

I am leaving the Apple ecosystem for the first time in 23 years. I work in an OR where I always have a mask on, so FaceID doesn't work for me there. In my ideal world, there would be both Apple's FaceID and Samsung's in-screen Touch ID, but I have to have Touch ID and I'm tired of using this POS iPhone 7. The battery life is horrendous, even though it's a brand new phone.
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Why wouldn't you just set up an alternate face with your mask on?
 
I7guy said:
That guy is not uninformed. You may not like his position, but he is not uninformed. And it is a common internet debating tactic to cherry pick one's authoritative source.
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I didn't say he was uninformed, I said you were uninformed. And I asked him a source not to you, you're the one who entered into my quote.
Good job getting the graph from Statista.
 
1050792 said:
I didn't say he was uninformed, I said you were uninformed. And I asked him a source not to you, you're the one who entered into my quote.
Good job getting the graph from Statista.
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Sure. There's an old expression that starts off about not arguing....that comes to mind. As far as me answering, yep this is an internet forum, if you haven't noticed, any post on this site is up for comment.
 
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I7guy said:
Sure. There's an old expression that starts off about not arguing....that comes to mind. As far as me answering, yep this is an internet forum, if you haven't noticed, any post on this site is up for comment.
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Nah, not my point and you know it. I'm talking about the fact that I was discussing something with the other user while you interjected with your trolling.
 
Huawei and Samsung flagship phones have been way ahead of iPhone technology for a considerable time now but, unlike the Chinese, Americans value product status more than quality. Same with cars. German cars aren't what they used to be but who wouldn't prefer a Merc to a Lexus even if the Lexus is technically superior in almost every way?
 
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Benhamdoun said:
Huawei and Samsung flagship phones have been way ahead of iPhone technology for a considerable time now but, unlike the Chinese, Americans value product status more than quality. Same with cars. German cars aren't what they used to be but who wouldn't prefer a Merc to a Lexus even if the Lexus is technically superior in almost every way?
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True, especially now that Merc comes with a Renault engine.
 
HJM.NL said:
Your personal experience is based on one brand. One brand only and claiming that brand is delivering all your needs. I could accept that if you weren’t spreading your tiresome broken mantra of clueless assumptions of other brands you’ve never touched.
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It is.

That I haven’t really tried other devices doesn’t negate this fact - that my Apple products are working great for me.

Why do you think I have no desire to venture outside the Apple ecosystem?

By that logic, should people not be allowed to talk about the galaxy fold until it is released? The product isn’t even out yet, so how are they allowed to talk about how Samsung is so innovative this or that when it’s clear that they cannot possibly have touched or experienced a product which hasn’t been released yet? I am willing to bet that none of you here is actually going to spend $2k to buy said product. Does that automatically disqualify all of us from commenting on that matter?

I can also bet with you that many people commenting here don’t actually own every devices they claim are better than Apple products either. Do you plan on enforcing this uniformly across the board, or is it just targeted at me because I am one of the few here who actually has the temerity to go against the grain and speak out in favour of Apple?

I don’t understand - why are you all so adamant in insisting that Apple is somehow doomed? Is it so hard to acknowledge that Apple continues to innovate in their own ways by offering an integrated experience made possible by their control over hardware, software and services (something no other company can do, much less do as well as Apple), and that Apple doesn’t need to ape gimmicky trends like foldable phones?

Either way, it doesn’t matter. Samsung is facing stiffer competition across the board and the S10 is not going to reverse declining sales trends. Samsung themselves have even admitted as much.

That’s the main limitation I see here. Critics all nitpicking over the merits of 8 gb ram over 4, and completely missing the bigger picture.
 
Abazigal said:
It is.

That I haven’t really tried other devices doesn’t negate this fact - that my Apple products are working great for me.

Why do you think I have no desire to venture outside the Apple ecosystem?

By that logic, should people not be allowed to talk about the galaxy fold until it is released? The product isn’t even out yet, so how are they allowed to talk about how Samsung is so innovative this or that when it’s clear that they cannot possibly have touched or experienced a product which hasn’t been released yet? I am willing to bet that none of you here is actually going to spend $2k to buy said product. Does that automatically disqualify all of us from commenting on that matter?

I can also bet with you that many people commenting here don’t actually own every devices they claim are better than Apple products either. Do you plan on enforcing this uniformly across the board, or is it just targeted at me because I am one of the few here who actually has the temerity to go against the grain and speak out in favour of Apple?

I don’t understand - why are you all so adamant in insisting that Apple is somehow doomed? Is it so hard to acknowledge that Apple continues to innovate in their own ways by offering an integrated experience made possible by their control over hardware, software and services (something no other company can do, much less do as well as Apple), and that Apple doesn’t need to ape gimmicky trends like foldable phones?

Either way, it doesn’t matter. Samsung is facing stiffer competition across the board and the S10 is not going to reverse declining sales trends. Samsung themselves have even admitted as much.

That’s the main limitation I see here. Critics all nitpicking over the merits of 8 gb ram over 4, and completely missing the bigger picture.
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Interesting how others try to tell people their preferences are misplaced or wrong or outdated or...
 
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I7guy said:
As far as saving yourself a cable or two, I travel fully loaded with accessories, dongles and what have you. Save .5 lb and some space in the luggage pales in comparison to wasting time waiting for your personal electronic devices to recharge.
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I am still holding out for AirPower. I think it makes sense as a travel accessory that promises to help handle the charging of your mobile devices without having to deal with a mess of cables and charging hubs.

Because if you are going to be doing this on a regular basis, it makes sense to invest in a dedicated solution. The convenience will pay for itself very quickly.
 
Baymowe335 said:
Sec.gov is not Apple centric.

The SEC regulates all publicly traded companies. Maybe read about the companies you pretend to understand.
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I'm not from the US so I'm not supposed to know anything related to their government. Pretend to understand? Not my type to smell their earnings and throw a party about it. ;)
 
1050792 said:
I'm not from the US so I'm not supposed to know anything related to their government. Pretend to understand? Not my type to smell their earnings and throw a party about it. ;)
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So maybe stop pretending you know what you’re talking about on this subject? You thought I just made up 215M?

Every number I post here about Apple is fact.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
So maybe stop pretending you know what you’re talking about on this subject? You thought I just made up 215M?

Every number I post here about Apple is fact.
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So tell me where in my responses where I claimed you made up 215m. I'll be waiting.
 
I7guy said:
So back to basics. The concepts in the s10, are not innovative and have been done before and the s10 is an iterative design. Like apple some of their hardware comes from other companies. What Samsung did, is to move the needle forward for under the display fingerprint hardware. The camera hardware isn't innovative either, just a better iterative design.

Maybe much of the above can be said about the max, although imo, the neural engine is innovative as well as some of the uses for it such as smart hdr and dynamic video.
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if you want to go back to basics, answer my basic question that you are intentionally ignoring first, is face ID in original iPhone X innovative or not?
 
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