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Kuo: iPhone 12 Lineup Won't Support 120Hz, 5.4-Inch Model Will Have Slightly Narrower Notch

jscipione said:
I had an Android phone with a 120Hz display and even with a 4000mAh battery setting the display to 120Hz would drain the thing in a few hours, so I completely understand why Apple is not going to ship this feature. Anybody who says they want this feature does not understand its impact on battery life and would not want to use this feature if they had it on an iPhone.
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Apple does 120Hz different than Android, they have ProMotion, which uses a variable refresh rate. It can lower the refresh rate to 24Hz when the screen is mostly static, actually giving you better battery life, then increase it up to 120Hz when needed. Look at how the iPad does 120Hz, it didn't loose any battery life and didn't need a bigger battery.
This is probably the reason the feature might be delayed. Apple wants to get the auto refresh rate thing down properly so that the user doesn't have to turn on or off an option in settings.
 
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I don't care. On my Samsung phones - which have had 120Hz for years by the way - I used to turn it off anyway.

The notch is unforgivable. It's crazy that we would still have this ugly thing right there.
Unfortunately Apple is at a point now where the see the notch as an identification mark on the front side.
Lame.

Apple needs to:
1. redesign the notification center. It's ridiculous.
2. add haptic feedback to the keyboard, and make it possible to customize different intensities to your heart's content. It's crazy that you have no feedback whatsoever if you're typing and have the phone on mute.Those who are concerned with battery can just turn it off.
3. make it possible to adjust volume for independent apps and settings and not this general thing they're doing, forcing you to do it while the thing is being played, such as separate volume control for keyboard volume, music volume, ring volume, system volume.
4. add suggestions from the address book when you're dialing a phone number. Common now Apple.
5. make it possible to customize the texting app in every conceivable way. Font size, bubble size shape color.
6. make it possible to schedule a message to be sent at a certain time/date.
7. make it possible to move the icons anywhere you want to.
8. Use an OS-wide clipboard and make it not expire. You should be able to copy text now and paste it tomorrow if you want to.
9. Give us an option to NOT go to the next email but back to inbox after deleting an email.
 
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Rogifan said:
Hmm...OK, well I have the latest iPad Pro and I honestly can’t tell the difference between it and the previous model that didn’t have ProMotion. But maybe that’s just me. I’ve never had an issue with UI smoothness on iOS.

This reminds me of all the 1080p/4K discussions when most people aren’t looking at their iPhone thinking god the display is awful.
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Well then I guess we can just agree to disagree. It is night and day difference to me.
 
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dmx said:
Ya know, they could just make it slightly thicker, like people have been asking for, and then put the killer 120hz display in it with a big battery.
The problem is Apple has this perverted obsession with making their products thinner, even at the expense of features and quality of the product.
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iPhone 11 lineup says otherwise
 
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Why does Apple have so many excuses and problems fitting in technology that none of the other phone manufacturers seem to have.

OLED display came late, edgeless design came late, wireless charging came late. Samsung didn’t have an issue putting 120Hz OLED display in the S20, why does Apple need to wait another year? It’s all BS

It used to be they waited and then implemented those new features the best way possible, but that’s no longer the case.

As for the iPad Air with Touch ID, that actually interests me. I would have preferred under the screen but have to see how it feels in practice. The only thing now is to see if it includes 4 speakers like the Pro, that’s a deal breaker for me.

The price of the iPad Pro with the Magic Keyboard is basically the Macboor Air. I would rather go for the laptop at those prices. My iPad these days is purely for content consumption like couch browsing and the odd movie.
 
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GtrDude said:
I don't care. On my Samsung phones - which have had 120Hz for years by the way - I used to turn it off anyway.

The notch is unforgivable. It's crazy that we would still have this ugly thing right there.
Unfortunately Apple is at a point now where the see the notch as an identification mark on the front side.
Lame.

Apple needs to:
1. redesign the notification center. It's ridiculous.
2. add haptic feedback to the keyboard, and make it possible to customize different intensities to your heart's content. It's crazy that you have no feedback whatsoever if you're typing and have the phone on mute.Those who are concerned with battery can just turn it off.
3. make it possible to adjust volume for independent apps and settings and not this general thing they're doing, forcing you to do it while the thing is being played, such as separate volume control for keyboard volume, music volume, ring volume, system volume.
4. add suggestions from the address book when you're dialing a phone number. Common now Apple.
5. make it possible to customize the texting app in every conceivable way. Font size, bubble size shape color.
6. make it possible to schedule a message to be sent at a certain time/date.
7. make it possible to move the icons anywhere you want to.
8. Use an OS-wide clipboard and make it not expire. You should be able to copy text now and paste it tomorrow if you want to.
9. Give us an option to NOT go to the next email but back to inbox after deleting an email.
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10. FINALLY fix personal hotspot for good
11. Not have incoming calls hijack your entire screen
12. Create a proper cross-device screen use stat and notification sync
13. Never, EVER, have text wrap around or be interrupted by the notch, like e.g. Safari reader mode
 
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anshuvorty said:
So, basically the iPhone 12 is really the iPhone 11S all along. I guess the 120Hz + narrow notch will be the highlight of the redesign for the iPhone 13/“true iPhone 12” phones next year.

In other words, the only reason, it seems, that Apple is going to be calling this year’s phones the iPhone 12 is because of the 5G radios and 5G capability. I think that if 5G wasn’t the headlining feature, Apple would’ve touted these phones as the iPhone 11S, don’t you think so too?
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I think the re-design of the case is what gives it a new number 12. I don't think they've ever changed the design and gave it an 'S'.
 
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The Game 161 said:
And it will be here for another 2-3 years....

apple won’t remove it until under display camera is ready. If samsung are thinking of adding it in 2021 apple will take at least a few years after
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And what makes you so sure? I trust the technology being ready way more than Tim sticking to schedule and offering updates via drip tube.
 
Since most of the potential buyers are seriously affected by COVID-19 and possibly lay-offs, Apple sure will make the cheapest model their main model for sale this year, which explains why the 5.4 inches one is getting a narrower notch!
 
otternonsense said:
And what makes you so sure? I trust the technology being ready way more than Tim sticking to schedule and offering updates via drip tube.
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What makes me so sure? The fact apple are always late at adding features compared to the comp more often than not.

if they add it sooner it will be in 2022. no chance it comes in 2021.
 
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To be honest, I couldn't care less. I'm not an iPhone gamer beyond the time killer solitaire, bejeweled and the like, and I am perfectly fine with a 60hz display and have been for ages on my desktops as well.

I honestly can't tell the difference in the experience between the 2017 iPad Pro with ProMotion. But like I said, i've never been a "refresh rate snob" as someone called themselves in this thread. 60hz phone, tv, computer monitor, just fine by me, especially if it keeps price lower (HA!) and not hurt battery life.

But I'll likely be keeping my XS Max as I really have no real need for an upgrade.
 
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Theyayarealivin said:
Please kindly submit your request here. So, Apple can actually do something about it.

www.apple.com

Feedback - iPhone

Apple wants to hear from you. Send us your comments and feedback about iPhone.
www.apple.com
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I've submitted bug reports about HomeKit cameras not working while on-network with Apple Watch for three major versions of watchOS, sent in reports about HomePod dropping calls when used as a speakerphone since it started in version 12.4. Let me tell you, it gets old.

Pretty sure somewhere at Apple that Feedback site just links to this on somebody's Mac:
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The only time that I use 120hz is a 32in computer monitor. I am not going to play a game on that small of a screen. Maybe on a iPad with a fairly large screen it might be worth it.
 
UK-MacAddict said:
Why does Apple have so many excuses and problems fitting in technology that none of the other phone manufacturers seem to have.

OLED display came late, edgeless design came late, wireless charging came late. Samsung didn’t have an issue putting 120Hz OLED display in the S20, why does Apple need to wait another year? It’s all BS

It used to be they waited and then implemented those new features the best way possible, but that’s no longer the case.
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Apple are never the first to do anything. They usually take a while to do something but when they do it becomes popular and is often done correctly. They probably wasn’t happy with the battery life during testing.

let’s be honest here, it’s not going to have an impact on sales. The iPhone 12 will still sell well just like the 11 did last year.
 
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Billyk711 said:
Half these people that claim they NEED it, wouldn’t be able to tell the difference, just spec freaks, figured they would of learned by now,
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I don‘t think anyone is claiming that they NEED it. But the thought that people cannot tell the difference is absolutely bonkers to me. It is a night and day difference to me, not even close. Maybe the advantages will not be appreciated as much on a smaller screen, but with other companies starting to do it I would think it does have an advantage. Regardless though, I’m happy with this news. It saves me money this year as it was the only real feature I was hoping for. Although a 5.4” model is enticing..
 
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