And 3 months after apple does it so will samsung and everyone else, and the european union will make it a law that you can’t include the charger, and then who will be looking silly?
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Kuo: iPhone 12 Models Won't Include Charger in Box, 20W Power Adapter Will Be Sold Separately
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Except nothing was free in the Apple world! People probably paid $20 upwards for a $1 unmarketed accessory (Apple saved huge on NOT spending separately for the various marketing, distribution channel overheads) in the price break up(NOT the cost break up)
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Actual cost probably $1 or $3 for making this ! But if you have to buy separately you will end up paying upwards $25! And Apple doesn’t market Power Adapters hence they save 100% on various other overhead.
Given a financial motive for the exclusion of the EarPods and charger - the rumored $50 price cut to the base iPhone 12 - bring the price down to $650, are they still necessary?
Apple tries to convince the customer that they know what the customer needs. Customers not yet affected by Apples Reality Distortion Field can decided for themselves if the product is right for them.
Oh no.... Apple dictated we needed the OG first gen iPhone. Woe on to us! We'd otherwise be living in an idyllic utopia of postage stamp screens with a scroll wheel button and physical key keyboard mobile phones that have Adobe Flash and Java installed for the FULL web experience!
What a cursed world we now live in due to Apple's authoritarian rule.
Samsung, Google, LG, and OnePlus will have no option to resist.
In an exceedingly rare opportunity of choice Apple has dicated that you get a $50 price cut to the base iPhone 12 - bringing the price down to $650. But, the penalty for your choice is no EarPods and no charger. Are they still necessary?
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No, they aren’t necessary, but that doesn’t change my original statement that not including a charger is a decision based solely upon greed.
So they're not required when paired with a $50 discount, but that's Apple still being greedy?
If, and that is a big if, Apple reduces the price of the iPhone due to not including a charger, and sell a charger at a price equal to or lower than the discount, they will prove me wrong. If the price is the same, and it lacks a charger, their decision is pure greed.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Your overly simplistic “greed test” completely ignores the cost of making the phone itself, the cost of global shipping, and in general, the cost of doing business. None of those costs is static over time, and I’m surprised I’m having to remind anyone of that in the middle of a pandemic that had entire industries paused earlier in the year.
And you are ignoring the very high margins that Apple makes with every product they sell. Entire industries have paused, yes, and millions of people have been left without an income. If the price of the iPhone doesn't come down after not including a charger, or to reflect today's current situation where people have less to spend, then Apple is basing their decision on greed.
Nope. Not ignoring margins. Apple is, in fact, a business. In any case, I was referring to the pauses and shutdowns in the context of fluctuating manufacturing costs (And hence, fluctuating margins... Ahem.)
But if you prefer to talk about personal income - No one is forced to buy the latest iPhone in "today's current situation,” or any situation, really. There are plenty more economical phones that might make more sense for someone with reduced income, even phones from Apple. Let the charities be charities and the corporations be corporations.
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Then everyone will just opt for one, regardless of whether they need one or not because, why not?
I think there is some merit in the possibility that Apple might do this only for the iPhone 12 (ie: the updated iPhone 11), which currently still ships with the 5w charger. Apple is probably aware that most customers probably have something way better than the default 5w charger, and that it is largely sitting untouched in the box. Yet I don't see Apple bundling a more costly 20w charger and usb-c to lightning cable inside the entry-level iPhone (which is already priced low to appeal to more budget-conscious customers) for free.
So it's possible that Apple removes the 5w charger, and I am assuming that the cost savings from including one less accessory, plus the cheaper freight and storage costs (because removing the charger means the packaging can be slimmer, which in turn means that Apple can pack more of them into a container) goes towards offsetting what may be a more expensive phone to manufacture.
At the same time, Apple offers the option to purchase the 20w charger at a discount, or consumers can shop for an alternative from Anker or some other brand.
Likewise, lightning EarPods have always struck me as an oddity. I understand why they exist, but it's just weird to have a pair of earphones that really only work with your iPhones and little else.
Sounds like a more elegant solution overall. Granted, it's a problem largely of Apple's own making, but it seems they are trying to steer customers towards wireless charging and AirPods, possibly in preparation for the eventual removal of the charging port altogether.
It might be greed if they do it to increase their margins, but in this case they're simply doing it to maintain the same margins as they've had before. IF this rumor is true, that is.
More expensive components push the manufacturing cost of the phone up so they compensate for that by not including some accessories so that they can keep it at the same price point while not sacrificing their margins.
How is that greed?
Even if this rumor is true it's likely they're still sacrificing some of their margins since I doubt the savings from excluding those accessories can fully compensate for the much more expensive 5G components.
Even if it is based on greed, Apple is under no obligation to alter any of it's prices. Let the market speak with it's collective wallets. I don't see car manufacturers lowering the price of their cars either. (incentives yes, price cuts, not).
My (unsolicited) advice is that one should buy what's best for them. Android seems like a good bargain as they include freebies and give aways to see their phones at a time when Apple is rumored to be providing even less. Speak with your wallet and don't look back.
I personally don't care. If the price to value ratio meets my criteria, I buy something, rather than examine the underlying corporate reason for the price.
Correct, no one is forced to buy anything in today's situation. As for fluctuating manufacturing costs, if Apple increases the iPhone price or choose to not include something that they have always included with their product, then Apple cares more about their profit than they do of providing more value for their customers money. In essence, their greed outweighs their desire to please their customers.
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Never said they were.
Yep, all businesses should absorb any and all increases in their own costs so that customers are never, ever affected by the world economy. Got it. I look forward to someday hearing about your $1.5T multinational tech company which only looks at pleasing customers' slightest whims, and not making a profit.
I think, in 800+ posts, the emphasized bit above cuts to the chase, though. It isn't that people don't already have a way to charge their phones (most of them absolutely do), and it isn't that the iPhone is too expensive (they are still being sold by the millions)... People are just butthurt that they aren't getting as much "free" stuff.
And yet, come this fall, as many seasons before - many of the same whiners will buy the new phone, take it home and put it on their Qi charger or plug it into their computer using one of the half-dozen Lightning cables they have socked away in a drawer, and we'll collectively find something else to bash "Greedy Apple" about. Probably, someone will mockingly use the word "courage" and threaten to vote with their wallet. Rinse, repeat. Can't wait. /s
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Apple has to provide a product that the masses will buy. In fact, based on their revenue for the last couple of quarters, they have been doing just that. Apple is not a not-for-profit institution and they have a right to their profit, as you have a right to not buy what you deem to be over-priced products.
The price of the iphone 12 may just go up, even without charger and earpods. If that lands as greed, we should be happy there are alternatives. For me I wouldn't buy from a company I thought was greedy.
Well, rumor is the base iPhone 12 will be $650. Go, right now, price out Ear Pods and a 5W iPhone charger on Apple.com - tell me what the price is.
Apple already dropped the price of the iPhone 10r $50 to $700.
How about a #NSFW warning
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Name a business that doesn’t
Listen... There’s no way I’m canceling Apple if they decide to not put a charger in the box of the new iPhones Lol. Is it gonna be weird not having it in the box? Yes.
Complaining / boycotting really won’t do anything in this case. They’ll still survive.
Complaining / boycotting really won’t do anything in this case. They’ll still survive.