Make 3 models with the same specs/performance and just differentiate in size. This is bullsh*t. So glad I just sold my 13 mini and bought a new 13 Pro for 920€. I would have kept it if it had the zoom lens, though.
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Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'
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It is not about that
it’s because Biden administration said that companies that won’t rise price due to inflation will get a discount in tax. It’s all about money. If Apple does not rise prices in the US, it will save more money in tax payments than what would earn on a usd100 rise.
No. Not true at all.
I own a 12 mini, 13 mini, and 13 Pro; so I can speak to exactly where they missed the mark. The problem with the mini is that it's missing the Pro features.
We don't want a compromised and gimped version of the current iPhone missing the good camera or the better display. We want the same ProMotion display, the telephoto lens, and the Pro features in a reasonable size -- just like we used to get with the iPhone prior to the Pro models when all iPhone sizes were essentially the same product with a different chassis and screen size.
Anybody who wants a cheaper iPhone can buy the SE. The portion of the market that Apple keeps missing is that there are people who want the flagship phone, but don't want to carry around a 200+ gram lead brick that doesn't even fit in pockets and can't be used one-handed the way every iPhone prior to the move to 6.1" was able to be.
If your current 12mini is still in a good shape, the better is to wait until the next summer. Then, you will have a clearer picture of the 15 line, and can still go the 13 mini route if you want to keep the phone small or go 14 pro if you need the feature and can’t wait.
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You guys represent the smaller enthusiast userbase that wants the best of the best, most people who buy or wanted the mini was because of the size/weight/ergonomics. The fact that the normal 13 sold more than the 13 pro and 13 pro max combined says everything.
But as of yet, sales of the Fold lineup aren't at levels that Apple would view as acceptable. The basic Flip 4 starts at $999, and at Samsung's lower margins. Plus there isn't much "wow" factor to the Flip. The Fold is more useful, but starts at $1899.
Apple would argue it functions better. Incremental improvements over time.
If you say so. You're very entitled to your opinion of course. But, that is what it is.
Very likely never to happen. And as you have read many of these forums. Someone will inevitably say "what no support for the smaller Pro iPhone??!?!? Greedy Apple upselling!!!".
I'd use it as a mini tablet. It's not big enough for me to supplant it as a laptop (even folded). But that's just me. Apple will get there when they are ready for it.
Also doesn't seem so good value when an M2 macbook Air with 512 GB of storage is £1549, and an iPhone 14 Pro with 512GB of storage is £1429 and it doesn't even come with a PSU.
If you mostly wanna do a few phone calls, texts and a bit of web browsing my iPhone 6S is still perfectly capable for most general stuff! Camera clearly isn't as good, by a long way, and lower battery life/less snappy, but for it's general use purpose: a phone with some half-decent internet browsing on the move, social media apps, an iPod and some youtube/video playback stuff, etc, it's still pretty hard to justify *well* over a grand for something that doesn't need to do any real performance computing in my case.
So yeah, I'll likely get a new phone this coming year as mine is old, but the 14 isn't much cheaper than the Pro for the added features if I'm gonna keep it a long time. The 13 isn't much cheaper than the 14, and they're all pretty expensive. So I'm stuck thinking I may as well buy an older 2nd hand one if I want to really save some money, else I have to justify a LOT of money to get the seemingly best value new one. All to replace something that still actually fits 95%+ of my needs.
If you mostly wanna do a few phone calls, texts and a bit of web browsing my iPhone 6S is still perfectly capable for most general stuff! Camera clearly isn't as good, by a long way, and lower battery life/less snappy, but for it's general use purpose: a phone with some half-decent internet browsing on the move, social media apps, an iPod and some youtube/video playback stuff, etc, it's still pretty hard to justify *well* over a grand for something that doesn't need to do any real performance computing in my case.
So yeah, I'll likely get a new phone this coming year as mine is old, but the 14 isn't much cheaper than the Pro for the added features if I'm gonna keep it a long time. The 13 isn't much cheaper than the 14, and they're all pretty expensive. So I'm stuck thinking I may as well buy an older 2nd hand one if I want to really save some money, else I have to justify a LOT of money to get the seemingly best value new one. All to replace something that still actually fits 95%+ of my needs.
Man, I would have dropped like $1200 on an iPhone 14 Pro Mini.
That’s where I’m leaning. I usually resell my phones thru Craigslist (which seems to be dying from facebook marketplace) so I’m going to see what sort of prices the 12 mini is going for. If I can get $300+, there‘s a good chance I’ll upgrade.
All that said, my heart dreams that the mini will be the new SE. Maybe in April 2023?
Meanwhile, T-Mobile is slammed with upgrades and new orders from existing and new accounts.
How do I know? I was there moving from Verizon to T-Mobile on Friday and their networks were slammed due to processing new accounts for the 14 series.
How do I know? I was there moving from Verizon to T-Mobile on Friday and their networks were slammed due to processing new accounts for the 14 series.
I don't think the "preorder crowd" is who the Plus is meant for. The Plus is for the person who wants a big phone for cheap. That said, I still don't think it's cheap enough to have that appeal and will still fail. I'm just saying preorders are not a good way to judge its success.
It hasn't sold as well because the Pro isn't that much more relative to the total cost and is infinitely better. I bet the Pro has had huge sales numbers.
Good. This definitely needed to happen and I was hoping it would back fire on them. This was the most lackluster release across the board EVER! Phone, watch and AirPods.
Yes! Phone size preference does not equal budget or desire for premium features. A Mini Pro would sell well. I imagine it’s likely that they couldn’t fit the pro features in a mini sized phone.
Good. The price of an iPhone has gone up by insane margins the last 6-8 years. The market kept accepting those increases, which only encouraged Apple to keep pushing. Finally the market is pushing back.
I love my iPhone but having a phone rival the price of a premium laptop is absolutely bonkers.
I love my iPhone but having a phone rival the price of a premium laptop is absolutely bonkers.
If anyone from Apple is reading this, add me to the list of people who want a Mini sized, Pro feature phone.
Truthfully, there should only be 3 phones starting at $699, $799,$899. a Mini with pro features, Pro, and Pro Max. The true names should be iPhone Mini, iPhone, iPhone Plus.
Last year's iPhone sold with this year's pricing, with a nominal amount of new features and differences, and ALONGSIDE last year's iPhone, and pre-orders reflect low demand? Color me shocked. 