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Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'
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The mini failed because few people want a small screen and weak battery life.
I'm sure Apple is bringing back the mini now with Pro features, given that 5 people in this thread said they would buy one.
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Not many people pre-order new iPhones esp. those that cost >$1K. Many would wait and just drop by a neary Apple or telecom carrier store to buy one.
The economy is still recovering in the U.S. and many other countries are still in a recession.
People are more worried about their jobs and having money to pay for more important essential things like rent or food.
The US Dollar is currently strong so the Euro and other international currencies are weak so the iPhone would be more expensive outside the US, for now.
The iPhone 14 models have incremental changes over the iPhone 13 so it's not a 'must buy/have' item unless your current smartphone have issues or you have extra money to spend.
Better to buy one of the iPhone 13 models instead from whatever telecom carrier that has any remaining inventory before it's sold out.
The lack of a physical sim card slot will be an issue for many people as not every country has adopted eSim or the carriers' system is properly implemented to use it.
Parts of Europe, Africa and Asia don't use eSims.
In the U.S., Xfinity Mobile is one company that has been using eSim for awhile but the company recently released information that it's Now supported. Went in to a local Xfinity store for iPhone issues and the store manager itself that there were lots of eSim issues, almost all resolved when a physical sim card was used.
There are people who complain about paying for rent/mortgage or food yet have the funds available whenever a new iPhone model is released.
Give it time to see what actually happens after those iPhone 14 models ship and what's reported in the media regarding those iPhone sales instead of guessing on rumours.
Apple could at least simpler the models, to something like:
Mini (Pro)
Standard
Plus/Pro
The Promotion display can be added to all models but Apple wants to charge for that feature and manufacturing constraints would possibly limit that.
The economy is still recovering in the U.S. and many other countries are still in a recession.
People are more worried about their jobs and having money to pay for more important essential things like rent or food.
The US Dollar is currently strong so the Euro and other international currencies are weak so the iPhone would be more expensive outside the US, for now.
The iPhone 14 models have incremental changes over the iPhone 13 so it's not a 'must buy/have' item unless your current smartphone have issues or you have extra money to spend.
Better to buy one of the iPhone 13 models instead from whatever telecom carrier that has any remaining inventory before it's sold out.
The lack of a physical sim card slot will be an issue for many people as not every country has adopted eSim or the carriers' system is properly implemented to use it.
Parts of Europe, Africa and Asia don't use eSims.
In the U.S., Xfinity Mobile is one company that has been using eSim for awhile but the company recently released information that it's Now supported. Went in to a local Xfinity store for iPhone issues and the store manager itself that there were lots of eSim issues, almost all resolved when a physical sim card was used.
There are people who complain about paying for rent/mortgage or food yet have the funds available whenever a new iPhone model is released.
Give it time to see what actually happens after those iPhone 14 models ship and what's reported in the media regarding those iPhone sales instead of guessing on rumours.
Apple could at least simpler the models, to something like:
Mini (Pro)
Standard
Plus/Pro
The Promotion display can be added to all models but Apple wants to charge for that feature and manufacturing constraints would possibly limit that.
Why do TVs with more features get cheaper and cheaper each year but phones just stay the same or go up in price?
What are you talking about? I said nothing of Apple’s pricing or affordability. I asked what their profit margins were and how much in profit they made last quarter? The greed aspect is the low wages, insufficient health insurance and benefits, not whatever arbitrary price they’re setting products at…
There's only so much features that can be crammed into a smartphone, size being a big limitation as well as battery size and life.
Having a proprietary system also helps Apple as it can do whatever it wants with it.
I don't know where you live but here in Canada you cannot buy the 12 Pro, 13 Pro or 12 mini off of Apple's website as of now.
And actually yes if I ran my own company I wouldn’t mind using some of my $200b cash on hand to pay higher wages or supply better health insurance and other things. It is inhumane to deny a simple standard of living to the workers directly responsible for helping to generate that wealth…that’s why I said it’s got to go. Unfettered capitalism is not realistic, companies don’t grow forever, you can’t always please shareholders with higher revenue, profits, customer base or whatever else. Apple would hardly notice better wages on their balance sheet. It would be a blip. The only thing holding large companies back is greed…
Hardware revenue is cyclical right now and is leveling off if not declining as it is. Releasing devices/software "when it's ready" would hopefully smooth out that curve a bit.
Besides, Apple is transitioning towards Services as hardware is declining/leveling, so hardware sales and revenue will be a smaller portion of their balance sheet in the years to come.
The 13 mini battery is better than the regular 6.1” iPhone 12….so not sure what you are going on about.
The 5.8 iPhone X was the sweet spot. It was IDENTICAL IN SIZE to an iPhone 6, 7, 8 And had a larger screen.
You do know there were folding phones 25 years ago right? It’s not a wow factor. No one wants a 2 inch thick brick in their pockets
My comments are specifically referring to U.S. prices and market. I'm not particularly advocating for anything, I'm just pointing out that given the improvements there have been since the 11 Pro/Pro Max models, the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max prices could be considered low and increasing them slightly to provide some separation between those and the 14/14 Plus models would not be unreasonable.
If Apple had raised the U.S. prices of 256GB and 512GB iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max models by $50 they still wouldn't be higher than prices were for 256GB and 512GB 11 Pro/Pro Max models three years ago and that's without factoring in any adjustments for inflation.
No, people don't want a 2 inch thick brick, but many would jump at the chance to buy a 0.3" thick (unfolded) to 0.6" thick (folded) folding iPhone, if the screen was good and reliable that is.
I'm not sure what Biden admin statement you are referring to but how would it be determined if a price increase was due to inflation or due to improvements in the product? Despite what some may be saying here, there have been improvements to the iPhone this year; especially to the Pro and Pro Max models. I think a price increase could've been argued as warranted even without the inflation factor.
Besides, Apple has raised prices in other ways e.g., the cost of a battery replacement on the iPhone 14 is 44% higher than the cost on the iPhone 13. Apple certainly didn't attempt to keep prices the same here.
13 Pro and 13 Pro Max have already been discontinued.wait untill 13 pro prices will go down and get one.
Any leftover stock at Apple Stores will be sold out within days. At carriers, YMMV.
I agree. I regret having given up this phone.
They were closer to the same price. That’s what it’s been like until this launch.