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Kuo: iPhone 15 to Switch From Lightning to USB-C in 2023
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Ah, the "I'm one person and can’t make an impact" argument. It would be better if the "rounding error" was rounding down, not up!
One has to wonder what happened in Apple that it's EU that pushes them not to rely on on USB 2 speed standard from year 2000! in their flagship product..
One can understand some reluctance about the port connector for whatever legacy thinking, especially if they work on wireless version and going from USB 2 speed might look more like an upgrade later, but c'mon, the speed is just ridiculous, especially when Apple is "all about the performance"
One can understand some reluctance about the port connector for whatever legacy thinking, especially if they work on wireless version and going from USB 2 speed might look more like an upgrade later, but c'mon, the speed is just ridiculous, especially when Apple is "all about the performance"
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Lightning fans: don't worry, I'm sure there will be a USBc-to-Lightning dongle so you can keep using what you love.
USBc fans: worry, because this only applies to phones and Lightning (licensing) is more profitable to Apple than USB. So any idea of getting down to carrying a single cable for everything is probably deferred to well beyond "next year."
Wireless charging fans: this is a win only if the world adopts having compatible pads everywhere so one can confidently leave wires behind. Else, instead of carrying 1 or 2 cables, you are carrying a much bigger pad and a cable through which to power it... and probably 1-3 cables/dongles because the rest of the stuff you carry will still split between USB, USBc and Lightning.
Isn't "One cable to rule them all" fun?
USBc fans: worry, because this only applies to phones and Lightning (licensing) is more profitable to Apple than USB. So any idea of getting down to carrying a single cable for everything is probably deferred to well beyond "next year."
Wireless charging fans: this is a win only if the world adopts having compatible pads everywhere so one can confidently leave wires behind. Else, instead of carrying 1 or 2 cables, you are carrying a much bigger pad and a cable through which to power it... and probably 1-3 cables/dongles because the rest of the stuff you carry will still split between USB, USBc and Lightning.
Isn't "One cable to rule them all" fun?
I hope the iPhone never goes portless
I don’t jailbreak anymore so I don’t really care about losing DFU (although I’d be very pissed if I have to take my iPhone to the apple store to unbotch the software) but wireless anything is SO unreliable
Try wireless debugging something in Xcode and you’ll go back to USB in like 10 minutes - so many instances of just having to reboot so that it works properly (or at all).
I’ll take those juicy USB 3.1 transfer speeds over the “convenience” of wireless any time of day.
I don’t jailbreak anymore so I don’t really care about losing DFU (although I’d be very pissed if I have to take my iPhone to the apple store to unbotch the software) but wireless anything is SO unreliable
Try wireless debugging something in Xcode and you’ll go back to USB in like 10 minutes - so many instances of just having to reboot so that it works properly (or at all).
I’ll take those juicy USB 3.1 transfer speeds over the “convenience” of wireless any time of day.
I don't think they will make it EU only, but you know if they did someone would spin up web store offering grey market Euro spec phones in the US.
Nope. Less efficient. Generates more heat at the battery. Wireless as an option not the standard.
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Wow! Finally. It’s about time. I swear it should not have taken this long to Apple.
The only agreeable part is cheaper. The rest is, imo, false.
USB-C is not better. The port takes up more space, and more fragile due to the stupid male connector inside the port. This also made the port harder to clean or dry out.
USB-C is not faster. Pretty much all mid-range Android or lower with USB-C are also USB2.0 speed. Even Xiaomi's flagship is USB2.0. USB-C is just the connector. Plenty of cheap USB-C cables are basically just USB2.0 cables with USB-C connector. And iPad Pros did have Lightning at USB3 speed.
In a way it's somewhat disappointing to me because that means I probably won't be getting a new iPhone this year ('probably' in life there are no guarantees). I'm sure this news will have some affect at least on MacRumors readers sales. I read some posts people saying basically wireless charging sucks well to them this may be true, but I think we should all remember Magsafe. Magsafe really turned out to be more than just a wireless charger with a magnet. So, USB-C I'm thinking it's just the middleman to maybe try and make us happy (and the EU) like they did on the Macbook Pro M1 where they added HDMI, SDCard reader, and Magsafe charging. Seems like from an engineering/manufacturing standpoint it won't be too difficult to transition to. The new cable and accessory sales will more than make up the cost of manufacturing retooling.
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Try holding it in your hands or laying in bed and using it while on a wireless charger. It obviously has trade-offs as mentioned by others.
Lightning is more fragile due to its direct exposure without protection.
Lightning was great when it was released, nothing else really existed and it was a great replacement for that 30 pin connector but now we have alternatives. I will be very glad when the iPhone changes to USB-C. In fact, I will probably keep my iPhone 12 until the iPhone has USB-C.
I’ve never had a a lightning cable fail at the connector. I can’t speak for USB-C because I haven’t used it enough but it’s definitely not an issue. I will say it’s a lot tougher than micro USB which I have quite a bit of experience with and that completely sucks.
It’s just going to encourage me to use wireless instead of cables. Yes it’s a little bit less efficient and environmentally friendly but it’s a PITA to carry around two separate chargers.
Well I personally don't like the type see they can get easily damaged with them having all the prongs in there I think every phone should personally runt the lightning charger from iPhone and it don't charger faster with type c if anything it's just now catching up because it usually take 3 hours for my friends to charger their androids and my phone when dead literally hr and half tops
Exactly what benefits will you get from USB-C? The only thing I could think of is faster transfer speed but that would only apply if you’re using it a lot for video. I don’t so perhaps that’s why I don’t really see this as an issue
I thought it wasn't as convenient as well until I bought a duo charger for traveling and a magsafe charger for the car, it's pretty effortless locking into place to charge and then grabbing and going. I am looking at the battery pack for those in between moments where I can't sit around. I only plug my phone in now when I absolutely need CarPlay maps.