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Negative, at least on the Touch ID part of things. It's biometric security as a variant. Even Apple uses it on products where they cannot use FaceID, which is totally appropriate, since they have no standard orientation on iPads to really make it work as reliably as they should.

The moment Apple puts FaceID on every single product they own, they would have massive outcry about how people orient their devices. Even their brand spankin new Macs come with TouchID. There are great reasons why FaceID is not perfect, and it's still biometrics as a variant to include TouchID. It's not going away anytime soon.
There’ll be no outcry. People will enjoy the convenience and added security Face ID brings them.

The iPad Air is crying out for Face ID now given how inconvenient the Touch ID sensor is. And the iPad mini is well on its way to getting it now it has the correct physical design for face ID. Once the iPhone SE in its current design has run its course that’ll be the end of Touch ID on the iPhone.
 
Negative, at least on the Touch ID part of things. It's biometric security as a variant. Even Apple uses it on products where they cannot use FaceID, which is totally appropriate, since they have no standard orientation on iPads to really make it work as reliably as they should.

The moment Apple puts FaceID on every single product they own, they would have massive outcry about how people orient their devices. Even their brand spankin new Macs come with TouchID. There are great reasons why FaceID is not perfect, and it's still biometrics as a variant to include TouchID. It's not going away anytime soon.
FaceID on the iPad works well with either portrait or landscape orientation. It's quite seamless. They could do that with the phone if they thought it made sense.
 
Kuo, Kuo, Kuo...

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Given the issues Samsung has to deal with with on-screen fingerprint recognition, no wonder Apple is not going to attempt to revive Touch ID with an on-screen solution. Especially now with the changes to Face ID on iPhone 12 and newer to fix the face recognition problem wearing a mask.
 
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I honestly don't understand the insistence on FaceID. There are so many instances where I DON'T want to unlock my phone simply because I looked at it. And there are just as many instances where I NEED to unlock my phone WITHOUT looking at it. Additionally, I'm quite comfortable with the level of "security" TouchID provides.

FaceID is just cumbersome all around IMO.
 
I honestly don't understand the insistence on FaceID. There are so many instances where I DON'T want to unlock my phone simply because I looked at it. And there are just as many instances where I NEED to unlock my phone WITHOUT looking at it. Additionally, I'm quite comfortable with the level of "security" TouchID provides.

FaceID is just cumbersome all around IMO.
Better start adapting! Adapt or die/be left behind ?
 
Apple is unlikely to release any iPhone models with under-screen Touch ID within the next two years, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a tweet today.
Makes no difference to me. Mainly because the machine has yet to be invented that can reliably read my very faint fingerprints.
 
But why... face id is super fast and convenient, why would I ever want this old tech?
 
unfortunate if true (who knows though, these "rumors" seem like they're all just guessing anyway, haha!)...

many people prefer touchID over faceID for various legitimate reasons (strange that some people can't seem to comprehend that). if Apple can't/won't implement it via the screen, then it would be nice if they'd at least include touchID in the power button! ?
 
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But why... face id is super fast and convenient, why would I ever want this old tech?
One could make the counter argument that touch ID is also ‘super fast and convenient’. The difference is, it’s just not Apples primary choice of biometric authentication anymore. But that doesn’t make touch ID any less relevant, because as you can see, Apple just updated the iPhone SE 3 with touch ID. So I wouldn’t really consider it old tech, it’s just not as favorable as it once was.

What doesn’t align with your views, might for somebody else. That’s why we all have choices, as Apple offers both biometric security options.
 
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It was always stupid. It's going to be on the power button, or behind, or nowhere.

Walking back a prediction is one thing. Walking back yet another stupid one… how many times? He's just a sullbhit master that got it right once. Blind squirrel, broken clock.
 
There’ll be no outcry. People will enjoy the convenience and added security Face ID brings them.

The iPad Air is crying out for Face ID now given how inconvenient the Touch ID sensor is. And the iPad mini is well on its way to getting it now it has the correct physical design for face ID. Once the iPhone SE in its current design has run its course that’ll be the end of Touch ID on the iPhone.
Well you got me there. Apple fans do what their dear leader says. Because they know best, right?

I mean, after all, MY HAND wouldn't cover the FaceID when I'm holding an iPad to watch a movie in landscape mode? Oh, I'm holding it wrong? I've never, ever, ever heard that before.

Sarcasm aside, lets be clear - FaceID is a good technology. What I'm saying is that in and of itself it's not perfect everywhere because it requires your face to be in a near-perfect position in a relationship to the camera. And it's not everywhere either -- New Macs are being lauched with TouchID, yet still have front-facing cameras. Cost savings? For a company that says they put your security and privacy as #1, I don't really see that across all the actual technology.

The outcry will be that Apple decided that people use their iPads as notepads instead of as computers / video consumers, so they have all their cameras in portrait mode and are COVERED BY YOUR HANDS when you hold it in landscape. Not convenient. It isn't really a debate whether the TouchID button is less convenient than face, it's that FaceID cameras are exactly where most people will have their hands.
 
If they didn’t bring it back for the pandemic then I don’t see them bringing it back now they’ve got FaceID working with masks.
 
No need for an under display touch ID. Just put the iPad Air's touch ID button where the power button currently is on an iPhone. It would fit perfectly - if you don't believe me, hold an iPad Air up to an iPhone and you'll see. It's the nicest feeling and clicking power button in Apple's entire lineup anyway.
 
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I honestly don't understand the insistence on FaceID. There are so many instances where I DON'T want to unlock my phone simply because I looked at it. And there are just as many instances where I NEED to unlock my phone WITHOUT looking at it. Additionally, I'm quite comfortable with the level of "security" TouchID provides.

FaceID is just cumbersome all around IMO.
This.

It's actually a security issue, which is why "eyes open" is a "feature" of FaceID. As FaceID gets better, it will never gain a better field of view, because the moment FaceID can scan a room to look for your face to unlock it, it's actually less secure. I can steal your iPad at a convention or gathering or something, then hold it up to unlock it because it could see you in a room, in theory.

Nope, it'll always require a specific field of view which is right in front of the device.

Or, you know, TouchID as stated. FaceID is technologically nice, but it isn't an endgame, it's a technology choice, which is precisely why you still see so-called "state of the art" or "modern" macs coming equipped with TouchID. Revolutionary!
 
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Better start adapting! Adapt or die/be left behind ?
. . . or switch ecosystems. Convenience means that much. ;)

Decisions like these without (what I'd consider valid) functional/technical/security justification make my eyes twitch and push me closer and closer. o_O
 
It can't be that expensive, although Apple's unique display sizes may contribute to the cost.

I've been using such technology with the OnePlus 8T and it works well.
 
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