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Kuo: 'M3 Series MacBook Pro' to Be Focus of Apple's October 30 Event
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When devices are back ordered with rumored new chips coming in that 2-3 week window, do you automatically get updated to the new chip?
HobeSoundDarryl
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At what price (would you pay for it)? See Pro Monitor for some of those specs and then add whatever you think Apple would charge to build in a whole Mac and give you a keyboard and mouse. Add what you think they'd want to get that refresh rate up to 120hz. And don't forget the $1,000 monitor stand for that one.
I do think an iMac "bigger" will come soon- maybe not next week but somewhere in the next 500 days. I suspect it will be branded PRO, offering PRO & MAX chips, 30-32" screen and probably priced like the former iMac Pro was priced... which is a LOT more than the 27" iMac many of us fondly recall. If that's a dream, stand by and you'll probably get much of your wish... if you want to cough up the bigger bucks for it.
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Exactly.
For example, if someone wants a laptop that runs Windows and they go shopping on Amazon, they can find a great many options in the $200-$300 range. These devices use low-end Intel or AMD chips. The people shopping for these kind of products are not cross-shopping for MacBook Pro laptops.
And the people shopping for a high-end AMD or Intel Windows laptop and look at the $1300-$1600 range are going to do so exactly because they want a Windows laptop with good performance. They are not looking for a MacOS computer.
The people who are going to be first-time Mac buyers probably come from iPhone owners (or maybe Apple Watch owners or maybe even Apple TV owners) who want to try more in the Apple ecosystem.
So the analyst who said there will be NO more Apple events or new Macs this year, is now stating what the event he claimed would never happen will contain, which is in total contrast to everyone else.. why does anyone believe what Koh says anymore?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
The other one said the same, so if we want to undermine credibility, dig that mine under BOTH sets of feet. There isn't a winning side here. Both have predicted no event, then an event, no Macs for the rest of 2023, now new Macs are incoming.
I give both great credit because they get PAID to do it. And both have histories of getting predictions right or wrong. If we key in on the right calls, they can look like they are practically guru "insiders." And if we key in on the wrong ones, they seem to know no better than anyone else.
I posted the Nvidia story from Reuters yesterday: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...machines.2408482/?post=32657470#post-32657470
With the industry now seeming to buy-in with ARM as the future (at least near future), Intel is going to have to do a lot of work to keep pushing their designs.
So I ordered an MacBook Pro M2 yesterday, which indicated delivery date of Nov 5.
Then I got excited as I heard about the potential M3 announcement.
And... guess what... my MacBook Pro M2 has shipped early, for delivery tomorrow.
You can bet I'll be sitting on that delivery and waiting to see what they announce...
Then I got excited as I heard about the potential M3 announcement.
And... guess what... my MacBook Pro M2 has shipped early, for delivery tomorrow.
You can bet I'll be sitting on that delivery and waiting to see what they announce...
What people use the Macbook Airs for, they do not really require "scary fast" Those could and SHOULD wait until after the Pro and Max are released.
Pro users WANT, REQUIRE and will PAY for "scary fast". Releasing them can be great marketing for the Airs.
Of course, the Airs will most likely outsell the Pros, but the Pro are halo products that would build momentum for when the M3 comes the budget Macs. Aspirational products. The Airs should have ALWAYS been released AFTER the Pros.
The M2 upgrade was a disservice to the Macbook Pro. So hopefully this resets the sequence of Mac releases to how it should have always been from the start. Pros first, budget after.
Pro users WANT, REQUIRE and will PAY for "scary fast". Releasing them can be great marketing for the Airs.
Of course, the Airs will most likely outsell the Pros, but the Pro are halo products that would build momentum for when the M3 comes the budget Macs. Aspirational products. The Airs should have ALWAYS been released AFTER the Pros.
The M2 upgrade was a disservice to the Macbook Pro. So hopefully this resets the sequence of Mac releases to how it should have always been from the start. Pros first, budget after.
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New MacBook Pro Leak Reveals Stunning Apple Decision
Despite the delay to the MacBook Air, Apple is preparing a surprise for MacBook Pro fans...
www.forbes.com
I’m not sure if anyone else has seen this but Forbes is saying that probably they will launch a MacBooK Pro with the M2 Ultra, along with the updated more efficient screen on the whole MacBook Pro line. They say it’s not probable that it will be the M3 Pro/Max chips for now.
I guess we’ll see!
The M1 is a three year old chip. The M2 is an 18 month old chip. Those are both considered old in the tech world where CPUs are typically refreshed annually (as AMD and Intel do). People in the market for a new Mac aren't wrong for wanting the best bang for their buck by waiting for the next CPU refresh cycle, which is overdue. Apple likely wants to be on an annual M-series upgrade cycle, just as it is with the A-series, so it can keep pace with the competition.
Regarding the Vision Pro you're missing the original commenter's point. The M2 has more than enough processing power for the Vision Pro. That device's selling feature is the user experience, the immersion and everything that can be done with it. Raw CPU horsepower isn't needed at this point; no one is going to be using a Vision Pro to run Adobe Photoshop or Final Cut Pro on it or crunch 100,000 line Excel spreadsheets. The commenter was not implying the M3 would focus on efficiency, likely the opposite; the M3 will likely have a similar power draw as an M2 but will be much faster. There are absolutely Mac users with professional workflows who could use the extra horsepower.
The article is by Ewan Spence, and should be ignored (or at least taken with a grain of salt) as a result. His articles are based entirely on conjecture, as is the case here. He's so certain in the rumors that the M3 won't launch until next year that he deduces, by process of elimination, that it must an M2 Ultra in an MBP.New MacBook Pro Leak Reveals Stunning Apple Decision
Despite the delay to the MacBook Air, Apple is preparing a surprise for MacBook Pro fans...
I’m not sure if anybody else has seen this but Forbes is saying that probably they will launch a MacBooK Pro with the M2 Ultra, along with the updated more efficient screen on the whole MacBook Pro line. They say it’s not probable that it will be the M3 Pro/Max chips for now.
I guess we’ll see!
HobeSoundDarryl
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I can buy every bit of that... but I still come back to launch M3 now and the halo is 3-5 months old when the new, wonder product is launched. Just as you have now cast the EXISTING M2 as "old", it will only be cast as even OLDER by Vpro launch.
As is now, M2 is still "latest & greatest", so Vpro is as cutting edge SOC as anything else. But 3-5 months from now, how M2 is viewed will be very different than today... especially if M3 is already 3-5 months old at launch and M3 MAX and/or ULTRA is being touted.
IMO: if M3 launches next week, Vpro launches with M3... whether it "needs" it or not. A wonder tech product can't roll out with "old" brains as if it is just as good as the new brains that have been marketed for months. "Good enough" (M2) won't spin as well as "latest & greatest" (M3) in a product sold at what many see as steep premium, etc.
If this was a plan all along, I see the connection between rolling out developer Mac Mini with a iPhone SOC months before the first Mac could be purchased with M1. Perhaps Vpro during this developer period has M2 but the production models to buy was always intended to have M3.
AFAIC: I'm good with that. I lean pretty positive on Vpro and would rather it launch with "latest" instead of "old"... if nothing else so that the gamble of first generation at $3500 is not getting vintaged any faster because it was the last of the "old" instead of among the middle products launched of the "latest."
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Hmm I understand your point, but I think it’s still a valid option, which would explain the “Scary Fast” title and at the same time would still give Apple space to launch the new M3 Pro/Max next year, as all rumours originally pointed out to.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d be thrilled if they released the M3 Pro/Max now (I would swap my newly bought 16 MBP which 14-day return window closes on 2-Nov) but honestly it does seem strange to have two new chips launched with just 8 months apart.
Exciting Halloween is coming 🎃
I doubt that thermal envelope of 16" would allow to have ultra in.
New MacBook Pro Leak Reveals Stunning Apple Decision
Despite the delay to the MacBook Air, Apple is preparing a surprise for MacBook Pro fans...
I’m not sure if anyone else has seen this but Forbes is saying that probably they will launch a MacBooK Pro with the M2 Ultra, along with the updated more efficient screen on the whole MacBook Pro line. They say it’s not probable that it will be the M3 Pro/Max chips for now.
I guess we’ll see!
This is Gruber's take;
daringfireball.net
- "Regular 24-inch iMacs get upgraded to the M2.
- These new iMacs might also be the source for those purported color-matched braided USB-C cables that were assumed to be for the iPhones 15. All iPhone 15 models ship with plain white braided cables, but the existing M1 iMacs shipped with fun color-matched Lightning cables.
- New “pro” iMacs are launched, with the M2 Pro and M2 Max chips, like the ones in the current 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pros (which only debuted early this year). Maybe these hypothetical iMac Pros will have bigger displays too? 27 inches would match both the Studio Display and the old Intel-based “big” iMacs."
Apple to Broadcast ‘Scary Fast’ Event Next Monday Night
So I’m just guessing here, but I’m thinking this event might be about iMacs only, and just an upgrade to the M2, and maybe some design changes, like, say, fresh colors. It’d be a lot more fun if it’s the debut of the M3, but my spidey sense says that’s not happening yet.
daringfireball.net
People get so triggered over that 13“ model to the point that they act as if it’s some sort of personal affront. I find that a little weird.
Scarily fast…. Mwahahha
Scarily fast updates… by the time you buy your M3 Macbook Pro, the M4 version will be out 😂
That will be scarily fast!
Scarily fast updates… by the time you buy your M3 Macbook Pro, the M4 version will be out 😂
That will be scarily fast!