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I've just received my Macbook with M1 and 16gb last week. Should I return it?
I suppose there will be a price jump right?
 
Apple just seems about "testing the waters" with Mac/Pro line, but when they do, they expect everyone to swim in the deep-end after being thrown in. Only THEN they relax which is wrong one to make.. If your intention to test what works, and what doesn't for customers (like the Touchbar) you don't assume everyone will want it, (except MBA) and then decide based on a full on scale alert, it failed.

I do like how Apple plans things out.. which once again only strengths the "Think different" slogan more and more. They wern't just kidding with that.
 
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Perhaps someone noticed the non-relenting demand for used 2015 MBPs

After buying an M1 Air I looked at quotes for my 2015 MBP. Music Magpie, a big UK player, offered me £400 for it. That's 36.4% of the £1099 purchase cost back after almost six years, quite phenomenal for a tech toy, the Apple Tax in reverse. I decided to keep the MBP, it's far too good a computer to part with.
 
This does not make any sense:

The new MacBook Pro machines will feature a flat-edged design, which Kuo describes as "similar to the iPhone 12" with no curves like current models.

The iPhone 12 uses a flat edge curved design. Unless he means they are going back to the 2006 MacBook Pro straight edge design, just with the current thinness of course.

I would find it strange for them to go back to adding more ports like USB A. I assume SD card reader maybe? But since upgrading to the 2020 M1 from my 2015 MacBook Pro, I haven't missed a single port. In fact, SD Card, HDMI port, older Thunderbolts were rarely, if ever used.

As for the Touch bar, I actually like it and it does not bother me one bit. Its usage I will admit is sparse, but so were the existing function keys on older generations, outside of volume up and down.

Considering I just bought my M1, I won't be an early adopter and will likely wait this one out for a few years. I am more likely to upgrade again next year Christmas, but go for an iMac instead. Hope they introduce a 32 inch screen.

One note I forgot to add, I will welcome the return of Magsafe. Although with 20 hour battery life on the M1, I rarely plugged in, but the charger for my 2015 is close to me and wound up in my feet the other day when I was stepping away from my desk and I pulled effortlessly. I don't think that would be same effect if it was the M1 with USB C.
I doubt they bring back an SD card reader it’s relatively niche at this point. HDMI is the one I feel like most people want.
 
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I doubt they bring back an SD card reader it’s relatively niche at this point. HDMI is the one I feel like most people want.
Its niche for most consumers, but for professional photographers and videographers, its still a essential storage medium. Sure, Tina who mostly uses an iPhone when she post her pics to Facebook and IG does not care; a long with occasional AirDrop to her MacBook Air. But, that photographer who is out in some remote location in Alaska capturing wild life photography and wants to easily offload those images into Lightroom, will see this a welcome benefit. I personally won't have any need for it, because its one port that has been gathering dust on my Early 2015 for years. The one and only digital camera I have that's working, I only used it once to test out Image Capture on Mac OS 10.0.
 
I've just received my Macbook with M1 and 16gb last week. Should I return it?
I suppose there will be a price jump right?
Keep it for a couple years or three, this is a Rev A product that's coming out this year. We all know what happed in 2016, 2012, 2008 and 2006. These first generation revisions all had some defects. I also have an M1, and I was actually hoping that Apple would have introduced a 16 inch model. I couldn't wait any longer and decided to jump in early. My response here is contradictory somewhat, since the M1 is a first gen product in and of itself, but its really a drop in replacement of its Intel cousin. There is no external hardware changes or technical functions like a Bridge OS or retina display lamination issues to think about. Its going a more than a month now and outside of some reported Bluetooth issues and minor app compatibility, I've haven't heard any outcries about avoiding this.

The 14 and 16 inch SKUs this year might have new display tech, significant changes to the chassis that might introduce some teething issues that takes a few revisions and store returns to get right. Even Apple with its resources can't avoid that.

What I might take a leap on regardless is the the next iMac. I want a larger screen Mac because I am working from home full time and I want something I can do work on during the day and a screen I can Netflix and HBO Max binge on in the evenings.
 
Magsafe on the back somewhere, 4 usb-c with 2 separate controllers, 16", 4 TB HD, m1x 16 core and 64 ram, quiet would be my perfect music creating machine. Mind you id consider a vader style with the above internals. the ventilation might be ok. id like to be able to open it to clear out dust
 
After buying an M1 Air I looked at quotes for my 2015 MBP. Music Magpie, a big UK player, offered me £400 for it. That's 36.4% of the £1099 purchase cost back after almost six years, quite phenomenal for a tech toy, the Apple Tax in reverse. I decided to keep the MBP, it's far too good a computer to part with.

OWC has been refurbing and reselling the 2015s as fast as they can find them. The pinnacle of form and function, going on year six.
 
Its niche for most consumers, but for professional photographers and videographers, its still a essential storage medium. Sure, Tina who mostly uses an iPhone when she post her pics to Facebook and IG does not care; a long with occasional AirDrop to her MacBook Air. But, that photographer who is out in some remote location in Alaska capturing wild life photography and wants to easily offload those images into Lightroom, will see this a welcome benefit. I personally won't have any need for it, because its one port that has been gathering dust on my Early 2015 for years. The one and only digital camera I have that's working, I only used it once to test out Image Capture on Mac OS 10.0.
Right so a very small subset of one profession is the target audience. That’s the definition of niche
 
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Everybody talking about MagSafe but no word on the important questions like is my Apple logo gonna glow again?
I kinda miss it, it's an iconic part of the Macbook but if it ever comes back it would be nice to have the option to disable it for those who prefer a less glowing computer
 
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OWC has been refurbing and reselling the 2015s as fast as they can find them. The pinnacle of form and function, going on year six.

No doubt. There's a lot of companies on eBay that are doing just that for the 2015 MBPs (both 13 and 15") and they are extremely popular. Got one of them myself that way, it's definitely the best bang for the buck MacBook Pro out there.
 
Right so a very small subset of one profession is the target audience. That’s the definition of niche
MacBook ‘Pro’, photographers are creative ‘professionals’. That’s not a niche. Apple does not market the MacBook Pro for people sharing pics with their grandma. Look at the markets page and sample apps used in the screenshots. Sure, if you have the money and don’t edit 4K content, Apple doesn’t mind taking your money. Every image you see in a magazine, on a billboard somewhere or even product packaging was captured by professional photographer. That’s not a niche industry, have some grasp of the word please.

Also, over 75 million DSLR cameras have been sold in the last 5 years. I’m not sure how niche of a market that is. Oh, btw, hundreds of thousands of wedding ceremonies are performed each year, corporate photos on company website, college graduation photos. All weren’t captured on iPhones, please remember that.
 
MacBook ‘Pro’, photographers are creative ‘professionals’. That’s not a niche. Apple does not market the MacBook Pro for people sharing pics with their grandma. Look at the markets page and sample apps used in the screenshots. Sure, if you have the money and don’t edit 4K content, Apple doesn’t mind taking your money. Every image you see in a magazine, on a billboard somewhere or even product packaging was captured by professional photographer. That’s not a niche industry, have some grasp of the word please.

Also, over 75 million DSLR cameras have been sold in the last 5 years. I’m not sure how niche of a market that is. Oh, btw, hundreds of thousands of wedding ceremonies are performed each year, corporate photos on company website, college graduation photos. All weren’t captured on iPhones, please remember that.
they absolutely do and those are the vast majority of people purchasing them. People continuously get hung up on the word "pro" its just a marketing term for the higher end model
 
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Apple is working on two new MacBook Pro models that will feature significant design changes, well-respected Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said today in a note to investors that was obtained by MacRumors.

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According to Kuo, Apple is developing two models in 14 and 16-inch size options. The new MacBook Pro machines will feature a flat-edged design, which Kuo describes as "similar to the iPhone 12" with no curves like current models. It will be the most significant design update to the MacBook Pro in the last five years.

There will be no OLED Touch Bar included, with Apple instead returning to physical function keys. Kuo says the MagSafe charging connector design will be restored, though it's not quite clear what that means as Apple has transitioned to USB-C. The refreshed MacBook Pro models will have additional ports, and Kuo says that Most people may not need to purchase dongles to supplement the available ports on the new machines. Since 2016, Apple's MacBook Pro models have been limited to USB-C ports with no other ports available.

All of the new MacBook Pro models will feature Apple silicon chips, and there will be no Intel chip options included. The MacBook Pro models will use the same heat pipe design used by the current 16-inch MacBook Pro model, which Kuo says is much better than the current 13-inch MacBook Pro and MacBook Air because it will allow for increased computing power.

Kuo says that we can expect to see the new MacBook Pro models released in the third quarter of 2021. Due to the revamped design and strong replacement demand, Kuo expects total MacBook shipments to grow significantly by 25 to 30 percent year over year to 20 million units.

Kuo also said that high-end iPhone models coming in 2022 are likely to adopt a vapor chamber thermal system, which Apple is "aggressively testing." The VC thermal system will be required for the high-end iPhones due to their stronger computing power and faster 5G connection speeds. There are already smartphones from companies like Samsung, Razer, and LG that use vapor chamber cooling technology, which is used to keep a device cooler when it is under heavy stress.

It is unclear if the vapor chamber thermal system will meet Apple's high requirements, according to Kuo, but he is optimistic about the reliability improvement schedule and expects at least high-end models to adopt it in the near future.



Article Link: Kuo: New MacBook Pro Models to Feature Flat-Edged Design, MagSafe, No Touch Bar and More Ports
Apple Device Marketing: "It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas ..."
i.e., We get whipped up about these releases and start celebrating earlier and earlier before the actual date, we're taught to stay engrossed with their imminent releases earlier in the cycle, and when the day finally comes we find a gift card under the tree - availability has been pushed out and you can't actually get the device for weeks and weeks. Third quarter 2021 will become end of 2021, and then the actual machines won't be physically available for a long time after that. Although the pictures will look good on the website. You can pre-order, though! Sorry to be so damn pessimistic, but ...
 
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they absolutely do and those are the vast majority of people purchasing them. People continuously get hung up on the word "pro" its just a marketing term for the higher end model

“Pro” hasn’t mean anything in over a decade aside from marketing. Why any “Pro”s think Apple cares about them is pretty funny.
 
“Pro” hasn’t mean anything in over a decade aside from marketing. Why any “Pro”s think Apple cares about them is pretty funny.
two things can be true. That Apple hopes to take a good chunk of the professional market and that a model having the name “pro” in it is still marketed at a broader market and not made exclusively for the needs of preferences of niche ultra power users.
 
If no Touch Bar that is a recognition that it was a failure and I always felt it was.

We already have the previous keyboard design back as the recent one was unreliable.
MagSafe is coming back, ports are coming back, Touch Bar is on the way out - all quiet admissions to the product roadmap being not what the market wanted.
Glad to see those things coming back.
 
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