Right now I'm thinking there won't be an update to the Mac Pro or the Studio until at least the end of 2024, and maybe even the first calendar quarter of 2025.
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Kuo: No New Macs or iPads Expected to Launch for Remainder of 2023
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Maybe, just maybe they can’t make a business case for moving forward with any of the devices given this economy, level of geopolitical chaos and falling sales industry wide.
I was in this boat, too. I went with refurbished mini and ASD and could not be happier. But I loved 2017 iMac to pieces.
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I didn't say they SHOULD. I pointed out that that is what "we all" were slinging as part of rationalizing the change from Intel to Silicon. The great gripe was that Intel meant only annual upgrades. Silicon being within Apple's control could offer faster upgrades... or so "we" were hypothesizing to make better sense of the change. Instead, the pace seems- as you speculate in only 2 iterations- to be slower than the Intel Mac upgrade pace. Your guess at every 18 months may- in fact- prove out.
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Worst year for Apple. I’ve been waiting since end of 2021 for new iMac. As I didn’t like the specs of the iMac as I had a mini. I didn’t think it was worth it. Either a m2 pro or m3 would have been a worthy upgrade. But over 2 years is taking the p*ss for Apple to release a new iMac. Wish they did that for the pathetic macbook 13” with that lousy battery draining touch bar. Which makes no sense in the lineup.
Apple is unlikely to release any new Macs or iPads for the remainder of 2023, according to a series of predictions shared in recent weeks by analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.
Macs
Last month, Kuo said Apple was unlikely to release any new MacBooks with the M3 chip this year. All existing MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models are equipped with M2 series chips, so any new models would presumably be equipped with M3 chips, which effectively means that Kuo does not expect any new MacBooks at all for the rest of 2023.
Earlier this week, Kuo added that the 24-inch iMac would be updated next in 2024, ruling out an update to the all-in-one desktop computer this year. All other desktop Macs, including the Mac mini, Mac Studio, and Mac Pro, were already updated in 2023 and are highly unlikely to be updated again until 2024 or later.
Macs by Date Last Updated
- 15-inch MacBook Air: June 2023
- Mac Studio: June 2023
- Mac Pro: June 2023
- 14-inch MacBook Pro: January 2023
- 16-inch MacBook Pro: January 2023
- Mac mini: January 2023
- 13-inch MacBook Air: June 2022
- 13-inch MacBook Pro: June 2022
- iMac: April 2021
iPads
Last month, Kuo said Apple was unlikely to release any new iPad models before the end of 2023.
Apple has yet to release any new iPad Pro, iPad Air, iPad mini, or entry-level iPad models this year. If that trend continues for the remainder of 2023 as expected, it would be the first calendar year with no new iPads released in the device's 13-year history.
iPads by Date Last Updated
- iPad Pro: October 2022
- iPad: October 2022
- iPad Air: March 2022
- iPad mini: September 2021
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Built in vpn for Apple’s privacy push..? Apple TV, HomePods etc acting as access points to extend the mesh? That would be very special.
Zero chance. The iPhone upgrade cycle is basically its own global economy, worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
I think they’re purposely holding back on other updates so the Vision Pro has as strong of a launch as possible. Being a new product category that’s going to require tons of dev buy-in, they need to move as many as they possibly can.
They want there to be a ton of pent-up demand for a new Apple something, from early adopters especially. No excuses of “ehh I just got the new MBP/iPad Pro two months ago…”
They’ll let the VP hold onto the spotlight until it’s out. Makes me think it will be very early in 2024
They want there to be a ton of pent-up demand for a new Apple something, from early adopters especially. No excuses of “ehh I just got the new MBP/iPad Pro two months ago…”
They’ll let the VP hold onto the spotlight until it’s out. Makes me think it will be very early in 2024
Vision Pro won't even be available outside the U.S. in 2024. Apple wouldn't hold up global sales of Mac and iPad just for VP. Besides, nobody would say "I got a new iPad Pro now. Vision Pro offers nothing new, so I won't buy one."
Waiting and waiting…but decided to pull the trigger on m2 13” MacBook Air (Starlight) 8GB with 512GB SSD for $999.
For that price for the m2 (512GB SSD) with video engine accelerators, even if the m3 came out, I still have a decent laptop for general usage with on occasion some video editing while on the road. 8GB RAM was the only bummer…but for the price and usage, it is enough (have 16” macbook Pro M1 for the heavier video editing loads).
Constantly waiting for the latest and greatest now a-days is not like before. Apple silicon is good, so get something when you need it (or have the money) and be happy.
That's why Apple still uses an SoC dated back in 2020 for its latest consumer all-in-one desktop as people can tolerate it so much.
List of devices that I would have wanted to see a refresh before 2024:
- 2020 HomePod mini S5
- 2020 AirPods Max H1*
- 2021 iPad mini A15 Bionic
- 2021 Airpods H1*
- 2022 iPad Air M1
- 2022 iPhone SE A15 Bionic*
- 2022 Apple Watch SE S8
- 2022 iPad A14 Bionic
- 2022 Apple TV 4K A15 Bionic
*All refreshed devices using Lightning ports will transition to USB-C ports in compliance to EU law.
The newer Apple chips are the M2, H2, S9, A16 Bionic & A17 Pro.
To exceed USB-C 480Mbps data speeds will require a A17 Pro chip.
The 1st 5nm Apple chip is the A14 Bionic while the 1st 3nm Apple chip is the A17 Pro.
- 2020 HomePod mini S5
- 2020 AirPods Max H1*
- 2021 iPad mini A15 Bionic
- 2021 Airpods H1*
- 2022 iPad Air M1
- 2022 iPhone SE A15 Bionic*
- 2022 Apple Watch SE S8
- 2022 iPad A14 Bionic
- 2022 Apple TV 4K A15 Bionic
*All refreshed devices using Lightning ports will transition to USB-C ports in compliance to EU law.
The newer Apple chips are the M2, H2, S9, A16 Bionic & A17 Pro.
To exceed USB-C 480Mbps data speeds will require a A17 Pro chip.
The 1st 5nm Apple chip is the A14 Bionic while the 1st 3nm Apple chip is the A17 Pro.
Got a M2 15" Air and I am very happy with it. Was expecting to see a new iMac this year. Looks like new Macs may start arriving from April 2024 onwards with M3.
They are probably putting all their resources on producing that affordable 30" 5K m3 iMac that's especially for me!!
The 2017 iMacs run Sonoma flawlessly using the OpenCore-Patcher. I followed the Mr Macintosh guide on YouTube for my parents 2017 iMac. I did a clean install, but he has two parts to his 40+ minute video detailing an in-place upgrade in the second part.
The above obviously won't be an option much longer for older iMacs as Apple quite rightly will be killing off Intel support in macOS entirely.
Wow. So Apple is going into the Holiday season with only new iPhones & an Apple Pencil? No new iPads? No new iMacs or MacBooks? Strange.
Well yes, but...
The new iPhones are the best they've ever made and Apple are struggling to meet incredible customer demand.
The new USB-C Apple Pencil is a really compelling product for a lot of savvy iPad consumers.
All the devices which would've been upgraded to an M3 are not (yet) coming.😒
Here, here! I too bought a 15 inch Macbook Air and my feeling back then was that there would be no M3 chip release this year. Which basically meant no more new Macs for 2023.
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Except that Apple only releases chips with actual upgrades, usually they're also made on an ever so slightly smaller process node, further increasing performance per watt. As new iPhone chips already support AV1 and RTX engines, we can be sure that M3 will also offer some new capabilities, while being faster and more efficient. In the Windows world OEMs would release a brand-new laptop every quarter, but equipped with a 3-year-old i5 design despite newer chip variants being widely available. And when they put in the newest generation Intel chips (which is made by TSMC N5/N6) they ask premium prices even above those of Apple. Meanwhile the only reason you don't have an M3 Mac yet is because nobody has one. Apple doesn't rename the M2 to M3 only to create the illusion of innovation. They actually do have the courage to offer the M1 iMac unchanged for 2½ years.
I bought one instead of an mba and now I think I must regret it because the iPad is useless for real document composition.