Kuo: Vision Pro Likely to Launch in Late January or Early February

[Lounge vibes 05]

Pure fantasy. This system will never be the size of glasses. Never.

While I don’t necessarily know if this is true or not, important to remember that the first demonstrations of multi-touch were given to Steve Jobs and the rest of Apple on an absolutely massive tech-packed table and its own room with a massive projector on the ceiling showing it’s contents.
And this was the early 2000s.
just within that decade, they were able to shrink all that down into a phone, and later a watch sized iPod nano.

So I’d suggest saying something will “never” happen, especially when it comes to getting technology smaller and more power efficient, is stupid.

No one knows what the 2030s and the 2040s and even the second half of the 2020s will bring.

 

[chinesedemo]

Considering I don’t know a single person that is considering purchasing this or investing effort in developing software for this platform speaks volumes to me. Unfortunately this product will fail in its present state.

 

[Fandroid killer]

Mass shipments of the Vision Pro to Apple will begin in the first week of January, according to supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

In a Christmas Eve note, Kuo said the Vision Pro will most likely hit shelves in late January or early February based on this schedule.

Kuo estimates that Vision Pro shipments in 2024 will reach approximately 500,000 units.

Apple first announced the Vision Pro at WWDC in June, and said it would launch in the U.S. in early 2024, followed by more countries later in the year.

Happy Holidays!

Article Link: Kuo: Vision Pro Mass Shipments Begin Next Week, Launch

Because of apple s greed, all of vr will see massive price increases

 

[delsoul]

I love how a global trillion dollar company’s products always hinge on the word of one guy who makes his living on speculation and hype.

 

[Fandroid killer]

if this won’t give me motion sickness, I am in.

But I haven’t seen a single VR device that didn’t give me motion sickness.

That won't change until the lens is revolutionized. Google meta lens. Once that comes into Mass production we won't only see motion sickness free vr, but also revolutionized camera tech

 

[citysnaps]

500,000 times $3,499 is just $1.7495 billion. Not a big thing by Apple standards. Far away from being the "next iPhone".

True... But it was never Apple's intention or goal that the first iteration of AVP was to be the next iPhone on launch day. That's just silly.

Instead... it was to get AVP out there, talked about by Apple's customers (with a relatively small number purchasing), in the hands of Apple developers to create interesting AR-focused apps, followed by even more public discussion to help those who currently have constrained/stunted imaginations understand what AR is about and its potential in both consumer and commercial spaces. And ultimately be followed up over time with much smaller next gen AVPs that will be embraced by much more of the consumer and business public.

It's astonishing so many people believe Apple doesn't have a well-developed and very thoughtful plan bringing this relatively new (AR in the consumer space) tech forward after investing many millions of $, collaborating with Stanford University's AR/VR Laboratory, and others.

And instead believe (per usual) Apple isn't very smart and introduced AVP on a TC whim with a "let's see what will happen" basis going forward. Of course that narrative would dovetail nicely with all the reflexive Apple hate found here every day of the week.

 

[deckard666]

Well its 800 pounds for an entry level iPhone so once they are down around that price point I can see some volume arriving.....

 

[Born Again]

It’s not about being an apologist, it’s about being realistic.
It’s also about the fact that there really is no room for this product to be a flop or a hit, because they’re literally going to sell about as many as they can make.
We probably won’t have anywhere close to a picture of if this product is successful or not for several years, and by then the supply will have gone up in the costs will have come down.

The original iPod, which was at least twice the price of most competition, Mac only, firewire only and without the iTunes Store, today would be considered a “flop” by people here.
But once they switched it to USB and introduced iTunes to Windows and introduce the iTunes music Store and created cheaper and more expensive versions… It took off.

Merry Christmas Tim. You can share sales numbers as you previously did before Apple iPhone sales started dropping

 

[iZac]

Woohoo! Lets go! Cant wait to get AVP!

…Actually Alien Isolation on the Apple Vision Pro would be crap-your-pants scary!

 

[Greenmeenie]

As cool as this tech may be, this is the first new Apple product that I won’t be rushing to buy anytime soon. Mainly because of the cost, but also because it’s a new technology, and needs time to reach it’s full potential & work out all the bugs. I’m just not sold on the need yet. Altho the tech seems fun…it just seems so niche. Strictly for home use & not very practical IMHO. Perhaps when they can shrink down the tech & Apple glasses come out. Much like the Apple watch that you can walk around in. But we are years if not a decade away from that kind of tech. Still, i love tech & will watch all the reviews on youtube with mild interest.

 

[topmounter]

"Cities will be redesigned around this device..." 🤡

 

[tomtad]

Considering I don’t know a single person that is considering purchasing this or investing effort in developing software for this platform speaks volumes to me. Unfortunately this product will fail in its present state.

Exactly this. This will launch and no one will even notice

 

[TruthAboveAllElse]

Wait a minute, I thought no one was allowed to give real opinions yet. How did he both get to use one and be honest about it? I thought all the demos were limited to the in-person appointments that the people who attended them are literally not even allowed to characterize whether it was good or bad.

What are you talking about? There's been plenty of opinions expressed from people who have tried it.

 

[till]

The real test of Vision Pro isn't the first few months or even years of sales, it's whether Apple and third party developers can make the kind of software it needs to be really useful. Previous VR products have focused on games (a small success), or "the metaverse" (a confusing failure), but Apple is betting on "spatial computing".

The comparison to the first iPhone is a good one, because remember there was no App Store for a while. Incredible to think about now. Vision Pro needs a whole new concept of working in a 3D environment, and the app ecosystem to support that. It's going to take a while.

 

[CarAnalogy]

What are you talking about? There's been plenty of opinions expressed from people who have tried it.

Yeah but all of those are hand picked by Apple. The regular developers are under NDA. I said honest opinions.

 

[Macaholic868]

I can’t think of an actual use case for it to help justify the cost. Right now if I buy one it’ll be on faith that this technology will be a game changer down the line. The iPod was a no-brainer as was the iPhone. I took a little convincing to hop on the iPad train and so I passed on the OG iPad but got the iPad 2 and right up until the iPhone X it definitely had its own easy to see use case. Since the larger screen / smaller bezel in the iPhone X and above I could go without one now and not miss much but I simply don’t see the use case outside of the wow factor for the Vision Pro. Not from a personal perspective and not in my line of work.

Now if it really does change the underlying dynamic of computing as we know it and spatial computing becomes something more than a buzzword for a VR headset with a larger App Library to draw from than the Meta Quest line of VR headsets then perhaps it’ll be worth the money, if not now then down the line when I can get one for $1,500 or $1,000 but I just can’t see dropping $3,000+ for another VR headset when I barely use the Meta Quest 2 as is.

3D video and games? The Meta Quest can do that. 3D apps? I don’t see how most apps would benefit from it outside of apps that simulate, train and/or allow for collaboration of 3D components. Apps involving assembling / disassembling / repairing / operating real world machinery or equipment, simulating physical environments in 3D space, designing things in 3D, etc. I can see great things for very specific kinds of apps but how is viewing code in 3D going to help make me a better developer of standard line of business apps or help me improve my IT skills. I don’t physically repair equipment so 3D manuals that could be easily referenced for repairing equipment and replacing components wouldn’t have much of a positive effect on my line of work.

My wife’s a nurse. I can see all kinds of use cases for her professionally from working with doctors to help them consult with patients they can’t be there to physically evaluate to practicing procedures and learning to use new medical devices. Healthcare, construction, product design, manufacturing p, etc. all have every exciting use cases but for somebody like me I just don’t see it other than maybe speeding up UI design or looking at 3D layouts of buildings and the location of networking equipment, WiFi heatmaps, etc.

 

[Techwatcher]

Everyone needs to watch this

Takeaways
Great build quality
Great screens
Intuitive ui
Spatial video works well when close to the subject
Spatial is a gimmick

I stand by my earlier position. This will not sell well.

Not the hill to die on

 

[MayaUser]

Everyone needs to watch this

Takeaways
Great build quality
Great screens
Intuitive ui
Spatial video works well when close to the subject
Spatial is a gimmick

I stand by my earlier position. This will not sell well.

so an 3500 device will not sell well?? wow...even macs that are over 3000 are not selling well
This is not your position, its a world wide fact that a lot of people cannot afford a device like this, especialy something that is not a must have, for now

 

[cdsapplefan]

In this recession economy, not many people will buy this. This product is just simply not a necessity.

 

[delsoul]

Honestly, I think people are just getting ‘teched’ to death. Tech was cool when it was a smaller field that people
Had a genuine interest in and cool stuff was emerging. But, now, it’s just everywhere and overwhelming. I think more and more people are starting to care less about these “breakthrough” products, like the Vision Pro, etc. aside from special uses, I don’t see it selling all that well.

 

[aParkerMusic]

This definitely will be a huge step forward for those with sight and the use of a pair of fingers who are otherwise immobilized or disabled, whether permanently or temporarily. For some, a phone did this, but I’m sure this will be a new and only option for many.

This could be MONUMENTAL for accessibility. It gives me chills to think about. Human ingenuity overcoming the cruelty of nature and misfortune.

Edit: apparently some people laugh at, and downvote, the idea of disabled and permanently-injured people being able to enjoy life more and be productive because of the advanced technology in Vision Pro. Nice.

 

[BB1970]

Considering I don’t know a single person that is considering purchasing this or investing effort in developing software for this platform speaks volumes to me. Unfortunately this product will fail in its present state.

That you Balmer? ;-)

 

[StudioMacs]

uuummm then that marketing blitz better be starting soon lol.

Apple will obviously sell as many as they can make. It will be supply constrained, not demand constrained.

 

[Born Again]

Because the story is the same with every new product, iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch ... It is fun to go back and read all the this will fail stories before the product launches.

AirPod max? Mac Pro? Mac cube? Newton? Lisa?

There have been failures before.

In what world do you live in that you believe $3500 vr headset will be a hit?

 

[smulji]

Far away from being the "next iPhone".

Maybe it's meant to be the "next Mac"