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I don't know what it is going to be…

But what was going to happen in 2 days again? I don't remember :p
 
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Oh ok sry I don't feel like reading an hour of comments. I'm not saying that they have to on the iPad but I'm just saying IT COULD be a mini USB port. It is about the same size as the opening
 
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Could be a mini USB port. Apple is now required to put it into the next gen iPhone that is released in Europe. Could be just for charging
There is a difference between Mini USB and Micro USB.

The connector that will need to be adopted in the EU is the Micro USB connector. USB mini is deprecated. [ source ]

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left to right: male micro USB, male mini USB B-type, male B-type, female A-type, male A-type) shown with a 5 cm scale.
 
I would say it's a micro USB port, as it's a EU requirement that -as of 2011- every phone gets a micro USB port and interchangable chargers (it's environmental friendly to be able to reuse old chargers, and -of course- much handier). Apple has let the EU know to comply and put a micro USB port in their product line as well. I know the iPad is not a phone, but if the iPhone is going to get a micro USB port for charging, it makes sense the iPad is getting it as well...

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"Handset manufacturers that have signed the agreement in June 2009 are Nokia, Apple, Samsung, Research In Motion (RIM), Motorola Mobility, LGE, Sony Ericsson, Qualcomm, Huawei Technologies, Emblaze Mobile, NEC, TCT Mobile (Alcatel), Texas Instruments and Atmel (IP/09/1049)."

While people have noted Apple is allowed to ship a micro-usb adapter I'm not sure they will. That's fine if you want to connect something every now and then, but letting the whole of Europe mess with some adapter for something as important as charing does not make sense. But I'm sure a micro USB port will annoy Johnathan Ive ;)


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As much as I hate the European Union, I like the idea of every mobile device (be it music player, phone, portable game player, etc) using the same, open connector...it makes perfect sense...why should we have to pay out for custom cables that provide the exact same functionality, if not less!
What's there to hate? :confused: If you have a grudge against north korea I would understand it, but the EU, what have they done against you? Your country benefits from it, just like every other nation in it. :)

I would say it's a micro USB port, as it's a requirement of the EU that every phone gets a micro USB port and interchangable chargers. Apple has let the EU know to comply and put a micro USB port in their product line as well. I know the iPad is not a phone, but if the iPhone is going to get a micro USB port it makes sense the iPad is getting it as well, for charging...
Yeez... Really?


on-topic;
Usb and mini-displayport are not likely. It's really an odd position for any connection since main holes are on the bottum, my guess: fake.
 
Mini display port? Why not just run HDMI through the 30 pin connector.

HDMI requires 19 pins, so how many pins do you think are not currently assigned on the 30 pin connector. Yes, it may be possible to re-use some pins but this causes a compatibility issue with older docking stations and devices.

The other option would be to somehow double the density on the dock connector to 60 pins, but in a way that older docks will only use the current 30. That is quite a challenge.

Phil
 
I would say it's a micro USB port, as it's a EU requirement that -as of 2011- every phone gets a micro USB port and interchangable chargers (it's environmental friendly to be able to reuse old chargers, and -of course- much handier). Apple has let the EU know to comply and put a micro USB port in their product line as well. I know the iPad is not a phone, but if the iPhone is going to get a micro USB port for charging, it makes sense the iPad is getting it as well...

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"Handset manufacturers that have signed the agreement in June 2009 are Nokia, Apple, Samsung, Research In Motion (RIM), Motorola Mobility, LGE, Sony Ericsson, Qualcomm, Huawei Technologies, Emblaze Mobile, NEC, TCT Mobile (Alcatel), Texas Instruments and Atmel (IP/09/1049)."

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That's not quite true. All they have to do is provide an adapter and they'll be fine.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/01/06/eu-adapter
 
Could they not have used the leaked design document to create the case? Seems like they have had enough time to study the document and design and build the case.

Exactly what I was thinking, it only takes a couple of weeks to re-tool. The cases themselves only cost pennies / cents to make but it costs a lot to re-tool so not sure why they would do this.

It is also probably a bit early for the iPad 2 design to be completely final. As many expect the announcement to be End Feb / Early March for an April launch then manufacturing would probably not commence until a week or two before the announcement.

Or, maybe, just maybe, Apple is predicting even higher sales of iPad 2 than the current model, so have commenced manufacturing early to build up a good stock pile. In this case, the very leaky walls in China would allow the final design to be well known in the case industry.

Phil
 
I still think LightPeak (or, rather, 'CopperPeak' as some are calling it) would be the connector of choice for Apple going forward.

Intel say they have surprisingly good yields of saleable chips, and we already know Apple have the software/drivers already since the demo last year!

It may be in addition to the dock connector for a while, purely because of all the accessories already available that use a dock connector, but since a large number of manufacturers have already said they will phase out DVI and VGA standards (amongst others) over the next four years I can see Apple jumping the gun if they can and starting adoption (snowball effect, like they did with USB 1) with a 'universal transport' connection.

IIRC (I'm sure I saw an article somewhere), I think it can also be a combo USB/LightPeak connector, so that is always a possibility too.

I guess we will find out soon!

Nig.
 
That's not quite true. All they have to do is provide an adapter and they'll be fine.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/01/06/eu-adapter

Quite likely that the current charging / connecting cable will just be modified to have a white USB to micro-USB cable (not standard covers of course), that mate nicely with a 'head' that wraps around and over the micro-USB connector to make the overall appearance very similar to the current cable. The opening will be big enough to allow for any standard charger to fit, even if it does look a bit odd.

The pureists will then make sure they have the white Apple charger with white Apple cable and the white Apple connector, so it will not harm the sale of Apple chargers.

Phil
 
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I think the new iPad should be called Mega iPad with all the rumoured new features. :D

Even if only half of them are true, this is still 1 unhappy first gen iPad owner. We really did get screwed...

How is that even possible with everybody pointing out that iPad is a very rev one device. Further iPhone 4 came out with more RAM than iPad sometime ago. I just can't understand this mentality, that is the feeling of being victimized even when it has been brought up repeatedly that iPad has yet to grow into it's adult shoes.

The current iPad is not a bad device at all but it is a lot like the original iPhone. That is a proof of concept that really needs better hardware and features to be worthwhile. To not recognize this is sad, but your failure here is not a reason to get mad. Rather it is an opportunity to learn, than is to learn not to buy rev one Apple hardware or to buy it to enjoy and not worry about the obvious second generation.
 
It's going to be a full USB port. It's time iOS became a fully-fledged OS, and this means it's going to need to support at least a subset of USB devices that use standard drivers (e.g. USB mass storage).

It's going to tie in to the proper filesystem support that we'll get with iOS 5.

At least, that's what I think. Filesystem support is a must-have for the iPad, and if they're building that in, allowing it to access USB filesystems is a natural extension of that. We already know that iOS has support for these devices, it's just not exposed to developers yet.

EDIT: It won't be lightpeak. Nothing supports LP yet, and it's not really necessary for a mobile device. They could easily replace it with LP once it gets higher adoption, and run the USB protocol on top of it. Doing it the other way would require a LP-USB dongle for it to be useful at all.
 
it could easily be the standby/hold button. where else do you see an opening for it?

Um, you can clearly see a slot for that in the same exact place that it is on the current iPad, the top right corner. In top picture in the article, you can clearly see the hole you are talking about at the top right.

No this is definitely something new to the design, but the one theory I haven't seen anyone mention is the possibility of an omni-directional microphone (like the one I linked but much smaller). Considering there is no hole for the current iPad microphone (which sits next to the headphone jack) this would be a clear indication that this is what they are doing.

The fact that FaceTime and video recording would be a big part of it, having an omni-directional stereo microphone would make a huge difference when shooting/streaming video. Imagine you are in a room with many people crowded around the iPad, talking to another group of people on the other end (they also have an iPad). Families do this all the time to video chat with other sides of the family. It's very difficult to do this with the iPhone because the screen is so tiny and the speaker isn't loud enough.

With an improved speaker and a much nicer microphone, the iPad could be a great video conferencing tool for all sorts of things, even in offices where you need to hold a quick impromptu conference between groups of people. The only issue is the screen size limits it to about 4-5 people but it still would be better than the 1-2 people that the iPhone could support.

Only scenario where this wouldn't make sense is if they were going to place the microphone right next to the camera hole on the front of the iPad. But I still say it might make sense to have a nice omni-directional microphone. You could even use the microphone to record meetings, which would be a huge feature for people to use.

So I ask: Where did they move the microphone to on the new iPad? (if these cases are accurate) There is no slot for it anywhere along the edges like it was before.
 
I highly doubt it's another port. If it were to be a Micro USB, it would be amusing to see the whole of Europe (myself included) charging iPads the wrong way round. On that one - Apple will most likely just bundle a USB adapter as they're allowed to, at least for now. Whilst it being the only good law to come out of the EU, it'll take a while for everyone to implement. Plus they'd have to allow support for a wide range of USB devices and then loose the sales of selling overly expensive cable adapters (which must generate Apple a fair bit).

Microphone guess seems sensible.
 
The best thing about this case is that it is again different from the ones 'leaked' before. It shows all the cases (maybe except one) are based on smart guesses and nothing else. This is good news - keeps the rumors interesting without leaking the real thing.

Even if only half of them are true, this is still 1 unhappy first gen iPad owner. We really did get screwed...

How did you get screwed???? Didn't it work according to the spec? You knew all features from the spec and bought it. You had a full year to enjoy it. And everybody knows (or at least assumes) that Apple releases updates on a one year schedule.

Did you really expect that the new iPad wouldn't have any new features? Get real - technology keeps improving, new stuff gets getting added and things improve over time.

BTW: don't buy the n th generation iPad, you will get screwed since the (n+1) th generation iPad will have more improvements !

I don't feel screwed - I had (have) a wonderful device for almost a year. I will hand it down to the kids and order the new one once it is availible.

Pretty stupid to assume mini display port. We already know that Apple have to (by law) add a MicroUSB port to the iPhone in Europe. Apple being Apple will use it across all iDevices to keep that consistent look. They are hardly going to ship a little converter for it....its too messy.

No, only smart phones are required to have the usb port! No 'dumb' phones, no tablet, not nothing else ....
That said: Yes it would still make sense for apple to put it on all their devices since they usually keep things in line (limited fragmentation).
 
If it's real (which is a very big IF), then I'm sure it's an IR port. Just think about it -- one device to rule everything in your AV cabinet. The Google TV had to use an IR Blaster, now consider that the iPad is the IR Blaster (effectively). It makes perfect sense, it could control the Apple TV and every other AV device (TV, AV receiver, cable box, DVD, DVR, etc.) and with device macros and the big iPad display you could push one or two buttons to reconfigure your entire system. This alone could increase the value of the iPad by at least $100 (no more universal remotes which can be quite expensive -- for a good unit with a big touch-sensitive, backlit display).
 
That sure looks like a great place for an omni-directional microphone, as seen on the iMac and the new :apple:displays.

Sorry to burst your bubbles :)

This makes the most sense of any post: the two cameras means it needs a microphone that can get sound out either side. Perhaps there are two mics? If not, this is the microphone position, and it makes perfect sense for placement.

A micro-USB up top?
A mini-display connector up top?

Doubt it.
 
This makes the most sense of any post: the two cameras means it needs a microphone that can get sound out either side. Perhaps there are two mics? If not, this is the microphone position, and it makes perfect sense for placement.

A micro-USB up top?
A mini-display connector up top?

Doubt it.
Not a chance, it's way too big for a microphone. Besides, the single microphone on the iPod touch works just fine for both front and back pickup and the port is about the size of a pin-head.
 
Not a chance, it's way too big for a microphone. Besides, the single microphone on the iPod touch works just fine for both front and back pickup and the port is about the size of a pin-head.

But where is the microphone hole then? If these cases are accurate there is no place for them to be. I see a spot for the headphone jack, speaker, dock connector, volume, mute/orientation switch, and standby/sleep button. The only remaining holes are the one for the supposed SD slot, and this mysterious hole that we are talking about.

Like I said, the only other possible spot (besides this mysterious hole at the top) for the microphone would be on the front bezel, next to the camera, but that would pretty poor for picking up sound recorded from the rear camera right?

And you say it's way too big for a microphone, but you don't realize that microphones come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. It is about the application that they are used for. In general the larger the microphone, the better it is at picking up sound. If this device is meant to be used as a group conferencing device and not just a personal (handheld) conference device, it would need a bigger microphone. Added benefit of being good at recording audio at meetings and such as well. It could be a really great office device, something that Apple clearly wants to nail down (also part of the reason an SD slot makes sense).

There is no need for a mini-display port or an HDMI port, because the dock connector port could be used for that just fine (as has traditionally been the case).
 
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Not a chance, it's way too big for a microphone. Besides, the single microphone on the iPod touch works just fine for both front and back pickup and the port is about the size of a pin-head.

Yes a chance.

This thing has the chance of becoming a super-video system for recording all your "big moments" through life, replacing a lot of video cameras and video editing computers for the average Joe.

A better mic might be in the plan.

We'll see, but you would have to admit a USB or display connector up top center is just... ridiculous. Why not put it low on the side where the cord or connector won't look like a freaky tophat and loop of nutty floating around the minimalist form of the pad in the dock? Esthetically the placement of connectors dead center top make no sense. Maybe Apple finally broke away from that limiting factor of good taste.
 
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