Latest Report Claims All New iPhone Models Facing Production Delays

[Krizoitz]

Does not surprise me.

There is still a 2 week wait for the iPad 12.9 a product they ALREADY made for years beforehand!

Actually no, it hasn't been made for years beforehand. The currently shipping iPad 12.9 has only been available for a month. It is a new product, with new internals. If you think its "the same" I suggest taking some electrical engineering classes and learning a few things about how electronics actually work.

 

[carpleror]

7S? Solder the A11 down instead and increase the camera resolution. Use Gorilla Glass V.12 or whatever. Offer it in orange to make the Dutch happy. Ship it.

"Apple today has announced they have just hired Kemal as the new Chief iPhone Upgrades Officer."

 

[Krizoitz]

With all these issues with the new iPhones, I wouldn't touch one of these things until sometime next year. I have the new 10.5" iPad Pro and that thing locks up couple of times a week. Just plain buggy. Apple doesn't have a clue. Imagine how buggy the new iPhones might be.

If Apple products are so awful, why don't you return yours and not worry about it anymore?

 

[carpleror]

What we need is more part leaks.

Apple has doubled down on security! Either that or none of the phones exist.

MacRumors tomorrow... "Ming-Chi Kuo reports Apple will not be releasing a new iPhone this year"

 

[B4U]

Does it matter if it launches in September or December as long as it launches? No one needs it in September.

My 6s battery issue is still plaguing it, so I need a new replacement as soon as they can make one.

 

[Krizoitz]

I agree, but my point is, no one is taking $1200 or $700 out of their pocket at one time to buy an iPhone. They finance it thru their carrier, which will only amount to roughly a $15 or $20 increase per month. Not a whole lot of extra money to get the latest and greatest tech. Therefore, I still think no one is going to buy the 7S because the barrier to entry of the 8 isn't that much greater. This, combined with the fact that it's expected to be least upgraded S model ever and the 8 is expected to be completely revamped, results in the 7S failing/being a was of time and resources.

Carrier financing is not used everywhere, and its being less frequently used even in the U.S. And people who are not tech enthusiasts like most of the people here absolutely due care about a few dollars here or there each month on their phone costs. I've helped plenty of friends and relatives get new phones and many of them, far less tech savy opt for the lower priced versions. Assuming your experience is universal is going to lead to bad logic and false conclusions.

 

[Thunderhawks]

Hello Tim Cook bashers and complaining about a rumor with no exact info:

My (same) mantra:

You have so far lived all your lives without this device, regardless of when it is available.

Think for once and don't fall for the same stupid rumors which happen around every iPhone intro.

If you want you can also complain now that there aren't enough phones to buy and Apple does it on purpose and that it's not released in your country blah, blah..............

Lastly, anybody who knows about production and its issues understands that one cannot open a drawer and pull out 50 million plus iPhones.

 

[Andres Cantu]

I heard, from reliable sources, that there is...going to be a screen. I think I heard that right...

Great, I was getting worried!

 

[44267547]

This is fine. I am fine. There is no hurry.

That being said, I'd be really surprised if things slip beyond October. I'll also be really irritated if that means my yearly iPhone Upgrade Program gets shifted to later in the year for whatever 2018 brings. I don't mind waiting for a new model, but I do mind waiting months after a new model comes out to upgrade.

Regardless of when the iPhone launches or how fast it sells out, you're likely going to have difficulty getting the iPhone as is, perhaps much later in the year pending your order. Especially the OLED model. For a large portion of customers, waiting months will be the norm with this iPhone.

Look at the iPhone 7 Plus for example, aside from the popularity of Jet Black, customers were not even receiving their model/color until Christmas or later. Factor the hype behind this launch and add into the equation of a revamped iPhone, you will see supply constraint, as is most iPhone launches.

 

[carpleror]

Carrier financing is not used everywhere, and its being less frequently used even in the U.S. And people who are not tech enthusiasts like most of the people here absolutely due care about a few dollars here or there each month on their phone costs. I've helped plenty of friends and relatives get new phones and many of them, far less tech savy opt for the lower priced versions. Assuming your experience is universal is going to lead to bad logic and false conclusions.

You're absolutely right, there are people who just want the cheapest phone and don't care about the tech. But what's stopping those people from getting the 7 this time next year once the price drops, or even the SE which is the cheapest iPhone on the market right now.

My point wasn't that everyone is going to want the iPhone 8, but that no one is going to want the 7S, there's no market for it. If you're buying a new phone for new tech, you're getting the 8. If you're buying a new phone because you need a phone and want a cheaper option, you're getting the oldest model (right now 6S, next year 7) or the SE. The 7S, as rumored, offers no value to the current product line, it offers marginally upgraded tech and is (currently) rumored to be the same price as a new iPhone right now. There are better options on both ends of the spectrum.

 

[ChrisCW11]

Wow, I think iPhone 8 will be dissapointing on many accounts. This was supposed to be a significant update to celebrate it's 10th anniversary, at least that was the excuse Tim Cook gave last year when the iPhone 7 was offered as a trivial update to the iPhone 6s.

However aside from the supposed reduction in bezel size, which to be honest is a moot minor improvement, there is really nothing NEW about the iPhone 8 that says "Hey, i'm 10 years old, buy me!".

I am more interested in iOS 11 new features then what a iPhone is supposed to possibly offer, but to be honest I think Apple has jumped the shark on iPhone and can't do anything more then tweak bezels and hype up features like camera or water-proofing, or a faster CPU nobody will utilize fully, largely because they already reached peak-phone years ago.

But for Tim Cook to be defensive about last years lack-luster iPhone 7 release asking us to wait because Apple has big plans for iPhone 8 and then this is what we will get, a delayed product without much bang for the buck and what will most likely be the most expensive at $1000+, very dissapointing.

Again, I ask, what does Apple do with 1/4 trillion in profits sitting in Ireland if this is the best phone they can offer after the last significant revamp 3 years ago?

More ****ing emojis? It certainly is not being invested in iPhone R&D these days.

BTW, EVERY render of the iPhone 8 to date, the phone just feels outdated in style on all accounts, even with the near full surface screen. This design been around since the iPod Touch 5th generation released 2012 and continue to prove that Tim Cook has never broken away from something Steve Jobs' had originally blessed. The 10 year old iPhone looks 5 years out of date.

 

[ConfusedChris]

I think it is more likely they will release with unfinished software:
“iPhone Edition with 3D laser sharks (beta), and FaceID (coming soon).”

 

[Mark Booth]

Any delays don't bother me. I'm still on an iPhone 6. In fact, I ordered a replacement battery for it this weekend. For all I know, it may be the last iPhone I ever own. The days of me craving every new Apple hardware release are long gone. It's just not the same company anymore. The Apple of today cares about money more than it cares about its customers.

Mark

 

[MadeMyDay]

The more I hear about this, the more I believe the best buy this year will be the iPhone 7.

 

[dampfnudel]

What happened to Tim Cook being the 'supply chain God'?

No more pressure from someone "above him" so now he's just killing time until retirement. He actually looks better than he did 7 years ago, more relaxed, calmer, enjoying himself more, etc.
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The more I hear about this, the more I believe the best buy this year will be the iPhone 7.

Well, I'm sure your wallet/bank account would appreciate it.
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Any delays don't bother me. I'm still on an iPhone 6. In fact, I ordered a replacement battery for it this weekend. For all I know, it may be the last iPhone I ever own. The days of me craving every new Apple hardware release are long gone. It's just not the same company anymore. The Apple of today cares about money more than it cares about its customers.

Mark

Ten years ago, Apple felt and was a different company compared to pretty much every other tech company out there, five years ago about the same. Today, Apple feels a lot like many other companies, the magic is gone more or less. Actually, some companies are trying and showing more innovation than Apple these days producing products that I have no doubt are finding their way into Apple's labs so their engineers can find out how feasible it is to copy them.

 

[joneill55]

How is it possible that this company has fallen soooooooo far behind in design and more importantly, the execution of the business plan.

SJ would not be happy!

 

[Lucifer666]

Samsung is orchestrating these rumors.

Wanna bet?

 

[DoctorTech]

Absolutely true. But Apple didn't NEED to announce that it would be available in September. They should drop their insistence on clockwork release cycles. Just release the new hardware when it's ready. They used to do that.

Scheduled product releases are a double edge sword. If the everyone knows there will be a new phone every September, Apple (and Verizon and Best Buy, etc.) can better predict the sales volumes in July & August as the market awaits the release of the new model. This minimizes excess inventory or shortages of the old model.

On the flip side, tradeoffs have to be made when releasing to highly publicized / well known release schedule. New technology that isn't quite mature enough or well enough tested to be included in a September release might be appropriate for a 1Q release the following year but someone has to decide to gamble on including it this September or waiting a whole year until next September.

 

[RtWrecklezX]

By the time its fully operational everyone is already waiting for the next one. This cycle of buy a half baked product and wait 6 months for software(ie 10.5 iPad & iOS 11) is getting really annoying.

 

[kdarling]

Scheduled product releases are a double edge sword. If the everyone knows there will be a new phone every September, Apple (and Verizon and Best Buy, etc.) can better predict the sales volumes in July & August as the market awaits the release of the new model. This minimizes excess inventory or shortages of the old model.

A yearly release cycle also always results in Apple's typical roller coaster iPhone sales chart of a large blip at first, then it's downhill until the next year.

Perhaps Cook would be better off splitting the models into two feature ranges, and updating them six months apart. OTOH, has that already happened to some extent? Is the SE updated separately?

 

[skinned66]

I'm used to supply constraints shortly after release, so meh.

 

[truthertech]

I can see the internet in my minds eye come October: "sure the iPhone Pro is sold out, they are only making 1000 per month. It's typical Apple to limit supply to create headlines of sold out for months."

Yes, that sounds like it would be a great business strategy. Create phony marketing hype by underproducing and underselling your top product for months at the cost of losing tens of billions of dollars in revenue. More companies should try it.

 

[Icaras]

Just remember Macrumors people: Believe every rumor you read.

 

[truthertech]

I'm not exactly in a rush to buy a new one. When it releases, it releases. I'll preorder and hope to get in a window that's not months out to be delivered. That said, it's all on Apple. They knew years ago what they were doing...generally and had time to plan for it. It's Cook's baby.

I'm not sure you know how this works if you are suggesting that Apple or any other company can guarantee years out that new technology will be developed and in production by a certain date. Only because they have thousands of talented engineers, programmers and designers is it possible to produce a new phone every year but it always involves difficult management decisions on what to delay or implement at critical junctions along the year.

 

[MikeSmoke]

I don't get it. How can something unannounced be delayed. Just because Apple has pretty much established a pattern for iPhone releases does not mean that the pattern is permanent. If and when a new product is ready, then it is ready. That is how reality works.