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Nope.
Cellphone antennas do not emit ionizing radiation, i.e. the kind that can cause cancers. You have to be in the UV range or higher for that. It’s basic physics. A standard light bulb emits higher frequency radiation. So does a candle.

The point is, we all are surrounded bei electromagnetic fields in different frequencies everyday and there are no scientific, peer reviewed, double blinded studies that support the claim that EM fields in a range of only a few watts are any harmfull at all.

There are two effects caused by EM radiation.
The first one is a thermal effect. For that effect being harmful, you'll need much more power than any smartphone antenna is able to deliver. And you'll have to meet the resonant frequency (or side frequency) of a specific molecule, to heat this up. Microwaves do this with water molecules.
Because mobile phone frequency bands are near the resonant frequency of water molecules, there are some claims, that your mobile phone can heat up your head a little bit. And there were some strong evidences for this claim to be true. But this effect doesn't go very deep an if you stay in the sun for a few minutes, it has a way stronger thermal effect than using your phone for a whole day.

The second effect is ionizing radiation. Only very short lengthened / high frequency radiation (like gamma ray, or x-ray) is ionizing. It's caused by nuclear decay or very very high thermal reactions (a million degrees or more). We don't talk about that in this case.
So why is the FCC safety limit set so low?
 
Whether it is harmful is beside the point. That’s a problem with the fcc, not this study. If what the study found is accurate the companies are going to be in trouble whether it’s physically harmful or not. There is a set limit. If its exceeded then there should be repercussions.
 
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Cripes, couldn't they at least let the ambulance turn on the flashers before setting up litigation?

Of course the preceding post represents my opinion only and does not represent or reflect, in whole or in part, the views of MacRumors, the WorldWideWeb, or any other humans on this plane of existence...
 
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"we know cell phone radiation is dangerous" - we do? Based on what scientific findings? Would love to see the study that is peer reviewed and accepted by the scientific community as sound.

Really? There have been several done showing they effect male fertility. You have the world of scientific studies at your fingertips - just Google any of the well-controlled studies available.

Here is one from way back in 2014 (just one of many, also studied in females):

The authors concluded that the use of cell phones by men is associated with a decrease in their semen quality. According to the researchers' data the decrease in sperm count, motility, viability, and normal morphology was related to the duration of exposure to cell phones.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4074720/#S0004title

A new study published in the journal Scientific Reports found a strong link between higher levels of exposure to a type of radiation called magnetic field non-ionizing radiation and higher risk of miscarriage in a group of nearly 1,000 women living in the Bay Area of California.

Specifically, the researchers, from Kaiser Permanente in Northern California, found that a woman’s miscarriage risk rose from 10 percent to 24 percent as she was exposed to higher levels of magnetic field non-ionizing radiation.


 
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The high sugar, high fat, and no exercise lifestyle probably contributes more than a cell phone.
Idk, I mean, radiating your balls all day is probably not great. DNA is very sensitive.
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Really? There have been several done showing they effect male fertility. You have the world of scientific studies at your fingertips - just Google any of the well-controlled studies available.

Here is one from way back in 2014 (just one of many, also studied in females):

The authors concluded that the use of cell phones by men is associated with a decrease in their semen quality. According to the researchers' data the decrease in sperm count, motility, viability, and normal morphology was related to the duration of exposure to cell phones.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4074720/#S0004title

A new study published in the journal Scientific Reports found a strong link between higher levels of exposure to a type of radiation called magnetic field non-ionizing radiation and higher risk of miscarriage in a group of nearly 1,000 women living in the Bay Area of California.

Specifically, the researchers, from Kaiser Permanente in Northern California, found that a woman’s miscarriage risk rose from 10 percent to 24 percent as she was exposed to higher levels of magnetic field non-ionizing radiation.

Thanks for backing me up!
 
"we know cell phone radiation is dangerous" - we do? Based on what scientific findings? Would love to see the study that is peer reviewed and accepted by the scientific community as sound.
Well, the SAR ratings are there for a reason. Ask the FCC and they'll tell you anything above 1.6 is dangerous. So why people here will defend Apple on this beats me. They effed up, now they'd better own it.
 
Very true. I've also participated in EMC testing in both open air test sites and anechoic chambers and witnessed first hand the changes orientation and operation can cause. Ideally, the lab is supposed to look for the worst case. Practically, captive labs can make passing in a "defensible" way a priority.

I've never participated in testing intentional emitters though. There are bound to be significant differences.

Side note: some of these anechoic chambers are very cool. The one located on IBM's old campus in Austin is huge!

yes this is true, nothing we were building had any intentional antennas, so we had a lot of wiggle room. but we'd be in there with the copper tape and trying to seal stuff up, though in the end we had to test as shipped.

i wonder if when testing a handset, you're allowed to put it in some kind of a "hand" which might absorb radiation. also there's the whole question of max transmitter power vs typical. i've never seen the FCC rules for a handset; given the original article's units (watts/kg) it seems like this is more than just measuring the received power spectrum at some distance, but there is also some kind of absorption component to this.

it's a little scary when they close the door to the chamber on you... the ultimate padded cell :)
 
lol'd at the chernobyl comment. i can only imagine what she'd say if someone turned her attention to the 5g conspiracy theory.
 
Side note: some of these anechoic chambers are very cool. The one located on IBM's old campus in Austin is huge!

My dad manages an anechoic chamber for the UK division of Leonardo. I think I'd need military clearance to get in there based on some of his work, but the photos he showed me were rad.
 
“This could be the Chernobyl of the cell phone industry”

So some lawyer just watched the Chernobyl HBO series and wants to now equate a disaster that impacted millions, displaced an entire city, and directly/indirectly killed thousands? Seems a bit insensitive.

Sounds like a group of scummy lawyers.
 
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Though I think the tests were done wrong, it’s worth noting that regulatory thresholds aren’t the cutoff between safe and deadly.
This BS needs to stop. If they use the children argument, then they need to present studies showing brain development hinderance due to this. Also, children do not have cellphones at 5mm or even 2mm from their brains, even when playing.
But think of all the finger tumors!!
 
"Apple told The Chicago Tribune that testing had not been conducted properly and was not "in accordance with procedures necessary to properly assess the iPhone models."

Apple's lawyers should come down on the Tribune like a ton of bricks if this is true.

I'm surprised apple is waiting to be in court to explain what specifically was done incorrectly in the. testing
 
So many things wrong with this, but I'll focus on the microwave doors. How exactly is a dirty door going to leak microwaves? This makes NO sense.
Have you ever heard of a Microwave leak detector? A dirty door will not seal properly and let radiation out. Years ago, this was alarming, people would panic all over. But now this is old news, nobody cares anymore.

Regarding the 400W Amp in the car, people are concerned about 2 Watts of radiation affecting their health, when they blast their stereos in their cars with their windows closed, thinking that's not going to cause them any harm.
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1.6mW averaged over any gram of tissue. The concern is localized heating, not that it’s going to slow roast a whole person...
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See Post #98
 
"Cell phones emit low levels of radio frequency energy (RF). Over the past 15 years, scientists have conducted hundreds of studies looking at the biological effects of the radio frequency energy emitted by cell phones. While some researchers have reported biological changes associated with RF energy, these studies have failed to be replicated. The majority of studies published have failed to show an association between exposure to radio frequency from a cell phone and health problems."

FDA, 12/4/2017

(Granted, political activities of the last 2.5 years have cast suspicion on some agency communications and publications, but the prior work supporting this conclusion was known before such events)
 
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In my 62 years of life so far I have yet to need an attorney. Nor do I imagine ever needing one.
You know I used to be the same way until some idiot decided to rear-end me on I-5 up in Washington state. Then I was grateful for being able to get a lawyer.
 
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