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Whether it is harmful is beside the point. That’s a problem with the fcc, not this study. If what the study found is accurate the companies are going to be in trouble whether it’s physically harmful or not. There is a set limit. If its exceeded then there should be repercussions.

Couldn't agree more. That's the real issue at hand. Regulations are just that: regulations. If a company does not meet them, why shouldn't they be held accountable? - Is it because Apple is special?

Car manufacturers have to deal with this daily. They have bucket lists of strict compliance to adhere to, especially when it comes to emissions.
 
Well, the SAR ratings are there for a reason. Ask the FCC and they'll tell you anything above 1.6 is dangerous. So why people here will defend Apple on this beats me. They effed up, now they'd better own it.
1. The FCC limit is not the cutoff between dangerous/not dangerous. If 1.6 mW were dangerous, they wouldn’t allow 1.59 mW either.

ETA: In fact, the FCC limit is 2% of the levels that would cause concern, i.e. there is a 50x safety factor built in.

2. Why do you assume Apple is wrong? You could just as easily assume the newspaper screwed up and should “own it”. Why you would defend the newspaper on this beats me.
 
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Is this guy just focusing on Apple, or is he going after the other phone manufacturers mentioned...?
 
I hate to see what The Chicago Tribune finds when the big cellular carriers turn the ever so close to the ground 5G antennas.
 
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A report yesterday from The Chicago Tribune suggested Apple's iPhones were emitting radiofrequency radiation beyond federal safety limits following independent lab testing, and now, a law firm is capitalizing on that report and has announced the launch of an investigation into the claims.

Fegan Scott, a Chicago-based law firm, has not yet levied a lawsuit against Apple, and it's not clear what "investigation" will be conducted. Beth Fegan, a managing partner, said that "this could be the Chernobyl of the cell phone industry, cover-up and all."

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Fegan went on to claim that research suggests that cell phone manufacturers "knew or should have known" that radiation levels were well above claims, despite no evidence.The Chicago Tribune's investigation contracted an accredited lab to test several smartphones according to federal guidelines. The testing facility found that some of Apple's iPhones emitted radiofrequency radiation beyond the legal safety limits, and in some cases, double what Apple reported to federal regulators.

The iPhone 7 was the worst performer, measuring well over the federal radiofrequency radiation limits across multiple tests, but higher than expected levels were also detected from the iPhone X and the iPhone 8. Smartphones from other companies like Motorola and Samsung were also tested with similar over-limit results.

Apple told The Chicago Tribune that testing had not been conducted properly and was not "in accordance with procedures necessary to properly assess the iPhone models." Apple also said that it re-tested the smartphones and confirmed its devices meet all exposure guidelines.In response to the report, the United States Federal Communications Commission said that it will be doing its own retesting of smartphones in the coming months.

Fegan Scott provides no other details on the upcoming investigation or what testing will be done to verify the claims made by both The Chicago Tribune and Apple and other cell phone manufacturers. Those interested in learning more, says the law firm, can send an email with contact information.

Article Link: Law Firm Capitalizes on Reports Apple's iPhones Exceeded Radiofrequency Radiation Safety Levels in Some Tests



A report yesterday from The Chicago Tribune suggested Apple's iPhones were emitting radiofrequency radiation beyond federal safety limits following independent lab testing, and now, a law firm is capitalizing on that report and has announced the launch of an investigation into the claims.

Fegan Scott, a Chicago-based law firm, has not yet levied a lawsuit against Apple, and it's not clear what "investigation" will be conducted. Beth Fegan, a managing partner, said that "this could be the Chernobyl of the cell phone industry, cover-up and all."

rftestiphone7-800x707.jpg
Fegan went on to claim that research suggests that cell phone manufacturers "knew or should have known" that radiation levels were well above claims, despite no evidence.The Chicago Tribune's investigation contracted an accredited lab to test several smartphones according to federal guidelines. The testing facility found that some of Apple's iPhones emitted radiofrequency radiation beyond the legal safety limits, and in some cases, double what Apple reported to federal regulators.

The iPhone 7 was the worst performer, measuring well over the federal radiofrequency radiation limits across multiple tests, but higher than expected levels were also detected from the iPhone X and the iPhone 8. Smartphones from other companies like Motorola and Samsung were also tested with similar over-limit results.

Apple told The Chicago Tribune that testing had not been conducted properly and was not "in accordance with procedures necessary to properly assess the iPhone models." Apple also said that it re-tested the smartphones and confirmed its devices meet all exposure guidelines.In response to the report, the United States Federal Communications Commission said that it will be doing its own retesting of smartphones in the coming months.

Fegan Scott provides no other details on the upcoming investigation or what testing will be done to verify the claims made by both The Chicago Tribune and Apple and other cell phone manufacturers. Those interested in learning more, says the law firm, can send an email with contact information.

Article Link: Law Firm Capitalizes on Reports Apple's iPhones Exceeded Radiofrequency Radiation Safety Levels in Some Tests
The ambulance chasers have begun....

"We need more of Apple's money!"
 
This thread is hilarious.

The Amazon is burning. The glaciers are melting. The climate is changing. Groups of people are being shot on a monthly basis. Animals are going extinct weekly. You’re sitting in traffic inhaling fumes, guzzling down HFC in everything you eat, overweight, and you’re worried about the remote possibility that cellular radio waves might do something to you while you’re constantly surrounded by radio waves?

Please. You’ll die of heart disease before anything else. If you’re lucky, you’ll reach maximum life expectancy. If you’re fortunate, you’ll surpass that but don’t count on it.
 
Wow we really have entered an era of people constantly bashing MacRumors. The forums are so different these days. People were never this opinionated and sassy in the late 00s. It's not that serious people. This is the internet and you're stressing about some organization's social media post content.
 
It isn’t like the old days - no one keeps a phone by their head all the time anymore.

Most use, especially the children, is at arms distance.
 
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1. The FCC limit is not the cutoff between dangerous/not dangerous. If 1.6 mW were dangerous, they wouldn’t allow 1.59 mW either.

2. Why do you assume Apple is wrong? You could just as easily assume the newspaper screwed up and should “own it”. Why you would defend the newspaper on this beats me.
Because it's not the first time someone tried this. The first Motorola-made Google phone did the same thing. They had software running on it that would turn down the em emitter when it detected a test situation. It was easy to spot there because on Android you can see the background processes running. Google promptly "fixed" that.

The same idea was also used by VW to cheat on the Diesel emission tests.

I suppose we will see. But if Apple actually was or is cheating on this, things will get very unpleasant, both for Apple and its customers. Any potential fix for this will mean lower transmit power output. The result will be dropped calls and overall bad reception.
 
Oh look - more negative word of mouth and bad brand image to be spread around to potential customers. Another public relations nightmare that Apple will have to control and hope doesn’t gain any traction.

Aren’t we tired of this yet? When will the shareholders come together and demand CEO change? What else needs to happen?

That won't change a thing. Lawyers from Flywheel, Shyster and Flywheel will still be filing suit for products that were made 5 years ago in 2026 or even 2040. That is what these lowlifes do. Apart from getting rid of all of them which ain't gonna happen Apple just has to bit their collective lips and carry on. Putting a new CEO in won't stop these leeches from doing what they see as their god given right which is to 'Sue Apple'. A high number of suits filed against Apple is probably a pre-requitise for some lawfirms to employ a new lawyer or worse, stand for elected office.
"Trust me. I filed 1000 lawsuits against Apple last year"

Bah Humbug
 
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“This could be the Chernobyl of the cell phone industry”

Good Lord. Chill with the FUD and Hyperbole - it’s borderline nauseating.

(Or maybe that’s just the radiation I got from typing this post :eek:)


Oh, I’m sure that these lawyers are wet to the knees at the thought of a class action suit against Apple.
 
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