Leaked EU Document Could Spell Major Changes for App Store, Messages, FaceTime, Browsers, and Siri

You’d have to be touched in the head to support this kind of crass overreach. At the risk of sounding repetitive, go use Trashdroid if open is what you want.

How about the EU develops its own OS tailored to its own authoritarian dictates and whims rather than sticking its nose much too far into an American company’s business?
 
sorgo said:
You’d have to be touched in the head to support this kind of crass overreach. At the risk of sounding repetitive, go use Trashdroid if open is what you want.

How about the EU develops its own OS tailored to its own authoritarian dictates and whims rather than sticking its nose much too far into an American company’s business?
Click to expand...
So why don’t you go ask this American company to stop sticking its nose into European territory?
 
vipergts2207 said:
Apple will follow the law and do whatever it takes to remain in that market. They might kick and scream in the courts for a bit, but at the end of the day Apple shareholders aren't going to accept Tim Cook forgoing Apple's $89 billion take in the EU marketplace. That's a quarter of Apple's worldwide revenue. Shareholders also won't accept Apple artificially hobbling their EU products out of spite, because consumers won't accept that either and that would have a nearly equally dire effect on Apple's aforementioned $89 billion in that market.
Click to expand...
Exactly. Apple has little to lose here. The free market is the only loser.
 
Wildkraut said:
My mother-in-law just got a Xiaomi this week... i helped her to get her stuff out of her iPhone 8. So far she likes it a lot.

Looking forward to more competition!
Click to expand...

Yes... there are other brands of phones that use an entirely different and open platform. Android exists!

Sounds like there is competition already!

;)
 
sorgo said:
Whatever you say, Jakey. Go back to reading your Wizarding World books or whatever (written by a conservative queen btw! we love basic biology, something that leftist children seem to have a lot of trouble grasping, hmm)
Click to expand...
You know, admitting that "conservative" and "transphobic" basically mean the same thing is something that you conservative types usually only reserve for your inner voice. But you do you, I guess.
 
sorgo said:
Someone opposed to (excessive) government intervention
Click to expand...
My last two votes in popular consultations that have enacted change in the constitution of my country have been liberal leaning, therefore we may align on the "individual-rights front". And it is as an extension of this affinity for the protection of individual rights that I lean in favour of the examination monopolistic situations, given their new and extraordinary nature.

Do I think that the framework put forth will be productive ? Hell NO.

Am I miffed as an $APPL holder, YES.

Do I welcome some scrutiny on the activities of platform capitalism, right as we near the cusp of the next industrial revolution, Absolutely.

We need to bring back some of the nuance in the discourse, for the love of what is holy.
 
jonblatho said:
I'm sure the lawmakers never thought of that and will now update the text accordingly. You probably just ruined Apple's plan. For shame.
Click to expand...

Whatever law they pass, Apple legal will find a way around it. The EU's might can't extend beyond the EU, so they can't write their way out of it without undermining the general way that importers are treated.

It's just short sighted to go after the good guys, and by good guys I mean a company that consumers are overwhelmingly happy with, when they should be going after the loosely regulated Chinese importers... a problem that is going to get much worse over time with belt and road.
 
jakey rolling said:
The world already decided that the world has enough smartphone makers. Just like the world decided two decades ago that we have enough desktop operating system makers, browser makers, Office software makers...

Natural monopolies are very real things. Pity that the EU is the only government entity willing to acknowledge this.
Click to expand...
It's clear as day to see why that's the case with OS's too. Companies creating apps, whether standalone software or apps that work with other products, are going to expend as few resources as possible to reach as much of the market as possible. The more OS's you have to develop for, the more resources needed to do that work. What ends up happening is companies develop for the biggest and/or most profitable platforms. From there the smallest and/or least profitable platforms cease to have new apps developed or existing apps updated, consumers stop buying those platforms, and then those platforms die off. In the early days of post-iPhone smartphones there was actually a reasonable amount of competition in mobile OSs and app distribution. Because of how revolutionary the iPhone was, Apple was a clear front-runner and an obvious development choice. In 2009, the first full year the iOS App Store was open, Apple's store was responsible for 99.4% of all mobile apps sold that year.

arstechnica.com

Apple responsible for 99.4% of mobile app sales in 2009 (Updated)

Apple still owns the mobile app market, which it redefined with the iPhone App …
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com

It became quite clear early on that everyone else (RIM, Palm, Microsoft, Google, etc.) would be fighting it out to see who would be the fortunate one or two left competing with Apple. In the end it ended up being only Android, but regardless of how it turned out, it doesn't take a genius to figure why operating systems in a segment tend to winnow down to just a handful. For all the comparisons to infotainment software, I'd bet a lot of folks don't realize that all those various automotive OEM's systems run on just a handful of platforms not even created by the automakers. Largely Blackberry's QNX, Android Automotive (not the same thing as a smartphone's Android Auto), Linux, and Windows Automotive. Markets tend not to support a lot of different platforms because the required resource allocations make that untenable and unattractive.
 
aidler said:
Never thought the EU could finally enact something useful. This would be a good step for consumers and for Apple.
Click to expand...

If I took a poll of 10 of my closest relatives who have iphones, I'd be the only one who knew what sideloading is and how to do it if enacted, and I'm against it.

This idea is even less popular than the iphone mini.
 
djcerla said:
If I want Android, then I buy Android.

Leave the iPhone alone.
Click to expand...
Exactly.
I think people who buy the iPhone is because of the way iPhone works.
If you're a tinkerer, buy android (no negative comments on it), be my guest.
Android 12 is pretty decent.
That said, I like my macOS, iOS and ipadOS locked the way they are.
 
I agree with the suggestions to just not comply with EU requirements and if iPhone users don't like it they can either raise hell with their government or switch to android.

Leave those of us who like the security of Apple ecosystem, alone....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Back
Top