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Lots own iPads but all their MacBooks exclusively run Windows XP/7 :p there is a massive segment of the population that earn 2000-4000 rmb a month but will save up all their money to buy a smartphone. Sure they could buy a xiaomi or a huawei for 2000 rmb but they're a POS (and you're right they seem to care very little about how the phone performs or the ecosystem) but the brand allure of the apple logo alone will push them to pay ~4000 rmb for one. Either that or a galaxy note type monstrosity - but that's another topic entirely!

It's interesting to get your take on it considering you live there. Do you think Chinese consumers will consider the iPhone 5C a "low end" product? Will they place a much higher value on it than the iPhone 4 or 4S? Do you think they'll believe the iPhone 5C was made just for China? And lastly will they feel dishonored by being targeted with a lower end device from Apple?
 
What context is the "hmm..." in?

"Hmm I dont like how it looks"?

"Hmm I don't think it's real"?

If its the 2nd case it's still plausible. The white 3GS had a black front.

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I really don't like it. Indeed with the 5c it will not have the same bezel looking like aluminium so it will look like ugly for me. I hope it will have a full white phone
 
Fake. Second shelf far back. What a lovely Ice Cream Sandwich device (wallpaper and you can see a little bit of the dock).

So? Wouldn't you use a reference of some kind when you are testing something? Maybe that device is running separate diagnostic software.

Just think of the effort it would take to make this picture as a fake and what kind of benefit it would create for the maker. Do you really think it makes sense buying or building an installation with 50 loaders, producing fake iPhone 5c's cycling through diagnostics and putting them in some kind of shelve structure, just to confuse some people on Mac discussion boards?

Just because you don't understand what is going on doesn't make it fake.
 
I'm worried that this is how Chinese consumers will perceive the iPhone 5C. I'm disappointed that the 5C isn't more attractive; the black screen is bothersome and the body is uninteresting. Even the sheen on the plastic looks low end. I don't think Chinese consumers care about the Apple ecosystem... i doubt they own an ipad, or mac book, and i'd be surprised if they pay for apps or music. I don't think they care much about ios simplicity, software updates, or Androids fragmentation. Fortunately i think it's likely that the iPhone 5S will garner enough admiration as a fashion statement with Chinese buyers that they'll buy a 5C.

Maybe Apple should partner with weibo or wechat or some insanely popular app in china to roll out new features on their app that only work on ios.

You should come here in China and you'll be surprised!
 
China is arguably a world-leading market for smartphones, far more advanced than US. Without rigid contracts, consumers may choose any phone they like and sign for any contract they like, which may or may not include subsidies (usually they not) and there is plenty to choose from. With a huge number of domestic phones, most of which never reach world markets, and leading foreign brands, competition is fierce, prices are relatively low and consumers are very smart. Winning a large share in a such huge market in no way a small achievement.

The fact that Apple is enjoying a large slice of market is quite a testament. While likes of Samsung are now leading, Apple's ecosystem, appliances, fashion are quite popular here and bought by higher income people. Having said that, Apple's leading phones have not changed much recently, but the new form 5C and biometric 5S may be prove to be quite popular, because higher income Chinese are quite health-concious and would welcome new health oriented iPads, iPhones and iWatches. 5C, a rugged, design and fashion oriented, will be a big hit among youth, who also can buy mid and high price smartphones such as Galaxy.

Reaction on Japanese market will be even more positive and 5C will be good hit in India too. These markets do show increasing trend for buying Apple products, so Apple is poised to end the year well.
 
I wonder why Apple didn't make the whole phone white, I mean if the back is white, why keep the front black? It still looks good to me, but that would make it perfect.

Also, the name of the employee is known, doesn't that get her into a lot of trouble? Why wouldn't she just stay anonymous?
 
Why are Chinese people doing all the leaking these days?!?

Remember when NOTHING got leaked and if it did it was from somebody pretty high up in Cupertino... now it's just random dudes in Chinese factories getting paid peanuts who leak everything they see. Wankaz!!
 
It's interesting to get your take on it considering you live there. Do you think Chinese consumers will consider the iPhone 5C a "low end" product? Will they place a much higher value on it than the iPhone 4 or 4S? Do you think they'll believe the iPhone 5C was made just for China? And lastly will they feel dishonored by being targeted with a lower end device from Apple?

Obviously my opinion is subjective and simply based on what I see around me (and Shanghai is a 1st tier city) but I don't think that the average Chinese consumer will consider the 5C as targeted toward them specifically, or that they're being belittled by being sold what some here will consider and 'inferior' product. It's just competing with the lower end of the market that they're already used to.

For every iPhone I see in people's hands, I see plenty of oversized samsungs on the metro and then a ton of cheapo android phones from local manufacturers. The ironic tendency is that the smallest girls normally carry the biggest phones. Everyone sits on the metro in a trance either watching video or playing random games. So phablets are also popular as a convergence device.

I still see tons of 4/4S's but that may just be historic, it may also be that it's a low priced inroad into the apple brand. I think the 5C will succeed simply because it's new, has a bigger screen than the 4/4S and comes in candy colours. I see a load of people that cover their phones in stickers on the back and home button so customisation is also quite popular. Like I mentioned, these are the kind of consumer who lives at home (most young Chinese seem to live with their parents up until they get married - so few expenses) and many have a low salary so saving 2000rmb on a 5S is a big deal.

I've also noticed that as many have mentioned - you often pay upfront for the phone - say 5000rmb goes into your phone account when you start the contact, then it gets nibbled away with every month of service (plus an additional top up for service) so the upfront fee for the device is quite important. There are of course different setups but this is how a friend of mine does it on China Unicom. 'Credit' for the average consumer seems hard to swing because (rightly or wrongly) corporations don't trust that a consumer won't try to screw them over by vanishing with a phone they haven't paid for.

On the flip side, consumers with disposable income will tend to buy the "best" model they can, simply because it has more prestige. These kind of people like many see the apple brand as more affluent than something made around the pacific rim. For them the gold one will surely sell incredibly well. - also the kind of people who buy macbook pros to run windows on -_-

That was kind of long and rambling - but I hope my humble POV is interesting.
 
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What if Apple are gonna do customisability like what Motorola are doing with the Moto X?

Where you can choose the colour of the front and back?

iPhone 5 Custom
 
The supposed leaking seems more prolific than usual on this product. Something tells me all may not be as it seems, however I will wait and see.

One thing is for certain, even if the 5C is not just for emerging markets and a replacement for using previous gen phones as a cheaper 2nd tier option, they will be seriously and deliberately nobbled.

This will probably be in the form of a restricted GB allocation, processor and the inability to use 'new killer' features of the latest comparable [ie 5S] phone, as they have always done.

Otherwise, many would rather pay less [or the same with more GB] for a plastic phone than the finer crafted version. I for one, did not have an issue with the 3GS.

We will have to see, but I urge that you temper your excitement with a little reality of Apple's product destination.

If you are the person that must upgrade every year on launch day to next best iPhone, 5C is not going to be for you.
 
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Just doesn't look right to me....A bunch of phones randomly placed on what looks like a steel grid all plugged into a home made block?

I call foul...:)

I work in a high-tech R&D facility (medical devices - blood glucose monitoring). We have numerous set-ups like this (for near-production prototypes). It doesn't make sense financially and from an operations point of view to produce expensive setups for tests that need to be done only a few times or can be built with off-the-shelf material.

In-production setups are much different, as these need to be able to handle a large amount of products and in a standardized manner. This is obviously a test-setup, but not every produced phone passes through this particular step.
 
China is arguably a world-leading market for smartphones, far more advanced than US. Without rigid contracts, consumers may choose any phone they like and sign for any contract they like, which may or may not include subsidies (usually they not) and there is plenty to choose from. With a huge number of domestic phones, most of which never reach world markets, and leading foreign brands, competition is fierce, prices are relatively low and consumers are very smart. Winning a large share in a such huge market in no way a small achievement.

The fact that Apple is enjoying a large slice of market is quite a testament. While likes of Samsung are now leading, Apple's ecosystem, appliances, fashion are quite popular here and bought by higher income people. Having said that, Apple's leading phones have not changed much recently, but the new form 5C and biometric 5S may be prove to be quite popular, because higher income Chinese are quite health-concious and would welcome new health oriented iPads, iPhones and iWatches. 5C, a rugged, design and fashion oriented, will be a big hit among youth, who also can buy mid and high price smartphones such as Galaxy.

Reaction on Japanese market will be even more positive and 5C will be good hit in India too. These markets do show increasing trend for buying Apple products, so Apple is poised to end the year well.

At the price point where the 5c will be coming in; it will be too little too late - these countries have too many options already available with better specs. The 5c will most like replace existing iPhones but will not grab a majority share in terms of new purchases
 
What if Apple are gonna do customisability like what Motorola are doing with the Moto X?

Where you can choose the colour of the front and back?

iPhone 5 Custom

Too costly from a production point of view. They already offer different color combinations, but adding additional personal customisability adds large amounts or operational cost. Think about the following:
  • set up a separate process for ordering
  • adapt the production process to allow for customisation and to follow the product through the process (they need to be able to allocate the product to you at the end).
  • separate packing and tracing to you
  • etc etc.
Not feasible with the market share that Apple has.

What you are referring to is not true customisability but offering more colour combinations. Although that would also be possible it would also increase operational cost and would likely lead to unpopular combinations.
 
I'm gonna say this pic is a fake. Phone testing procedures should not look like that.
 
At the price point where the 5c will be coming in; it will be too little too late - these countries have too many options already available with better specs. The 5c will most like replace existing iPhones but will not grab a majority share in terms of new purchases

I don't know what you mean by replacing existing iPhones, because the existing one were already bought, still work and will just create a new second hand iPhone sell or a new user. Just replacing existing stock of iPhones (5 generations!) would be a gigantic hit.
 
iOS7 colors

Cooooool! But with so much colors I think it would be nice if the os itself changes to the corresponding color of the shell. I mean like WP8 has accent color. It would be awesome if the os recognizes the color of the iPhone and changes the main scheme color of the os, just like it does on the boot up screen. :)
 
Thats great pr for the xiaomi phone 2!
Now everyone will know about that phone.
 
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