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The tool marks you see on the photo of the inside of the iPhone back tells me that the die hasn't been polished yet and the back being photographed is a test piece and not necessarily related to the other two photos.

It's not a fake, only the claims it is something it is not, is fake.
 
Maths 101...

Originally Posted by ptlnfc View Post
It seems longer then the current version of the iPhone. Will it be incorporate with a 16:9 screen instead of a 3:2 screen like the existing one?

The current aspect ratio isn't quite 4:3, it's 1.5:1.

1.5:1 is the same as 3:2 :)
 
Can somebody point out the difference to me, a beginner, between ceramic and carbon fibre, i.e. the pros and cons if they were to be used as backing for a new iPhone?

Other than that, I still hope for flash and zoom/autofocus for the camera, plus 32GB (to store by whole music collection - I don't like picking and choosing, only to find I've missed out a song I wanted to listen to) and a front-facing camera. And a few other things too.
 
I really like this forum because it reflects that apple fanatics blindness to a 100 percent.

There's an image of a piece of plastic/metal/whatever with an apple logo on it, and people are yelling "oh my god, that's amazing!!!"


Is it really blindness?

I can understand a statement like yours if we're talking about a Samsung Phone or even a Blackberry.



But we're talking about Apple.

A company that prides itself on innovation, just as much as aesthetics.
Every millimeter of product is design with the utmost care.

So it would be reasonable to think that Apple fans would care about any changes in an Apple product.
 
Can somebody point out the difference to me, a beginner, between ceramic and carbon fibre, i.e. the pros and cons if they were to be used as backing for a new iPhone?

I'm not a materials engineer by any means but as I understand it (and copying wholesale from Wikipedia):

Ceramics
Ceramics are hard non-metallic materials made by using heat. So porcelain dinner sets, commercial bathroom floor tiles and some of the things dentists use to fix your teeth are ceramics.

The good things about ceramics are that they are often very heat/acid/stain/wear resistant. Great for serving tomato based dishes, lining the walls and floors of public lavatories, and reshaping broken teeth that will be chewing on things for the next 50 years.

At the sexy end of the field, the turbine blades in the hot section of large jet engines are believed to contain ceramic/metal mixes, the node cones of ballistic missiles are often ceramic and so are some medical implants.

The down-side of ceramics is that they tend to be more brittle than metals - they suffer impact damage more easily. Drop a china plate and see what happens!

Having said that, a lot of dollars have been put into ceramics research the last 20 years by a lot of companies and governments, including ceramic-metal mixes, glass-ceramics and who knows what else. Generally the search is for better impact resistance, higher temperature tolerance or electrical conductivity. (A friend of mine was doing research a few years ago for the world's largest aluminium company, trying to find a ceramic replacement for the huge cathodes they use in aluminum refining.)

You tend to make ceramics like you would pottery. Make up a mix, shape it, fire it. Although I'm sure there are more exotic ways of doing it out there.

Carbon Fibre
Carbon fibre is a form of carbon that is little crystals of carbon atoms that align in a similar direction, forming a tiny little thread. You wind several thousand of them together to form a bigger thread that we can see, and voila, carbon fibre yarn.

Then you weave those yarns into a mat or a tape - there are dozens of different ways of weaving them, depending on where you want the strength in the mat to lie at the finish.

Then you sandwich the mat between two sheets of a type of plastic resin an then you cut and curve the mats/sheets around a mould to whatever shape you want. Finally, heat the whole shebang up to a pretty high temp - enough to melt the plastic.

The molten plastic seeps through the carbon mat and when it cools, the resin forms the shape and the carbon mat inside gives incredible strength.

Good examples are racing yacht masts or Formula 1 car bodies - or most of the new Boeing 787.

iPhone Pros and Cons
Carbon Fibre would be fine for the case of the iPhone. It's pretty transmissive to radio waves and very, very strong. However, the down sides are that it doesn't look real pretty - you can generally see the carbon weave inside. Some people like that, by all means, but it's not the clean look Apple often go for. Also, when it fractures, it gives off small particles that are not good to take into your lungs - something to consider when you're a rich company circled by hungry fee-for-win lawyers. (That's also worrying the airport fire depts around the world, for when the first B787 crashes and spews a fine cloud of asbestos-like particles all around the crash site.)

Ceramics I really can't say. There has been a lot of development in this field the last 20 years, but a lot of it is secret and patented, so who knows. It's entirely possible that a modern ceramic or ceramic/metal mix could be used, or there might be nothing suitable. The problem would almost certainly be brittleness - iPhones take a lot of impacts! But having said that, Wikipedia points out that there are high-end watches with ceramic cases now, so that problem might be overcome.

We know from past job ads that Apple has people on staff who know about them, so I'm sure ceramics are something they keep an eye on.
 
im a big fan of the matte metal if they go that route, im really not a big fan of the plastic iphone g3 backs. hopefully the engineers at apple can hack it out. man do i hate planned upgrades!
 
An iPhone or iPod Touch with 64GB storage and 5GHz wifi.
That would be something...
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Is it really blindness?

I can understand a statement like yours if we're talking about a Samsung Phone or even a Blackberry.



But we're talking about Apple.

A company that prides itself on innovation, just as much as aesthetics.
Every millimeter of product is design with the utmost care.

So it would be reasonable to think that Apple fans would care about any changes in an Apple product.

Uh, not really. I agree with most of your post, but the quality control of Apple has been kinda funneh.

And the dude you were quoting does kinda have a point.
 
Most def

Uhh, that's definitely the real deal. In my opinion, it looks too authentic.
I'm sort of excited to hear about the matte back-No more fingerprintey madness!
1st in line on launch day, anyone? ;)
 
Can somebody point out the difference to me, a beginner, between ceramic and carbon fibre, i.e. the pros and cons if they were to be used as backing for a new iPhone?

there isn't going to ever be a iphone with a ceramic or carbon fibre back. ever. i'll bet my house on that
 
We can't wait. I'm so excited. My woman is gonna break that phone off like some salmonella in a peanut factory. :eek:
 

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