Why do you guys still have old chargers lying around? Don't you sell them with the phone?
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Leaker: Future iPhone Models to Come in 'Exquisite' Thinner Box
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You're right, there really isn't a way to actually tell. We can just hope that Apple isn't going to screw us (even more than they already do) by selling us Ear Pods and the charger extra. Especially for people who buy their very first iPhone it's a very bad experience if no headphones and especially no charger is included.
Sooner or later only the iPhone itself will be in the packaging, and you can optionally purchase a wireless charger if you don't have one already
Everyone saying they already have so many chargers lying around at home, how many of these are 18-20W fast chargers? I doubt very few, comparing the millions of 5W chargers you have to the big boys makes no sense.
There should be at least another generation of Pro devices with fast chargers.
There should be at least another generation of Pro devices with fast chargers.
For me personally, USB-C is the ONLY reason to upgrade, due to the convenience. Keeping lightning around is also bad for the environment, ESPECIALLY when all Apple's devices now support USB-C.
yeah, maybe most people have those old chargers that take an iPhone Max forever to charge. If anything the PRO should still include the charger, and a bigger charger at that.
Apple has become kind of inconsistent. iPad X needs Apple Pen X but iPad Y needs Apple Pen Y yet the newer iPad also needs Pen Y not the Apple Pen X. MacBook and iPad have USB-C yet iPhone doesnt, so you cannot even plug in your iPhone into your macbook to restore it by default
I think it would be simple enough for Apple to ask whether you need a charger at checkout (either online or in-store), and then just include one for free if you do. That way they can claim they’re helping the environment and customers still get a charger if they need one.
In MY dream, the “exquisite” box is actually a wireless charger.
In MY dream, the “exquisite” box is actually a wireless charger.
Then buy a charger from Apple, or hell a third party. Apple isn't the only option for fast chargers, and IMO are certainly not the best (IE Anker.) You save money too, and help the environment by buying cables that won't break in 5 minutes of use!
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That's subjective. I think it's bad etiquette to fill the world with superfluous chargers.
What's objective fact is that currently you have no choice - all new iPhones come with a charger; this new approach adds choice.
Apple only just started including the 18 watt charger with the 11 less than a year ago. If most people don’t have it, does that really make it superfluous?
If Apple keeps charging for the iPhone at the prices they do now, it’s not much of a choice. It’s Apple saving money on packaging and shipping, then being even more greedy on top of that.
iPods also don’t come with a charger... they never did.
Would be fun if only the pro model would have a charger...
Would be fun if only the pro model would have a charger...
Yep, I mean you got to splash a WHOLE £29 to get a new 18w charger! Gewee...!!!
If Apple gave you the option to buy an iPhone 12 but add £29 option to get a charger, myself and millions of others who already have it, would just skip the £29 extra and get the device. There are always better options on eBay/Amazon etc for half the price.
So yes.... Stupid (like every controversial move Apple makes) and it makes "NO" sense. Until of course, it does make sense and it becomes the norm. I do not assume that everyone has a spare charger, countless cables, and wireless charging pads for every room and at work, as I do (they are dirt cheap on Amazon) but I am sure millions do. If Apple wants to stay competitive on prices and the rumored iPhone 12 prices are to be believed, this makes just perfect sense, but I invite you all to disagree with me. If not including these things in the box (stuff which I do not need) makes the device a bit cheaper, I am all up for it. And let's not forget the e-Waste. Over 2 billion iPhones have been sold. With EarPhones and chargers.
itsmilo is quoting my post, and here is the source with the full law
There will be earphone in the box, at least in France
This is a transcription of an EU law as described by Consomac
I wonder if they could get away with not including them in the box but "selling" them as a free (knowing apple that would be "included in the price" by a rather steep price difference between the EU and US versions) addon accessory.
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I sell my phone every year to pay towards the new one. Obviously I sell the old charger with the old phone. I have tons of the 5w chargers laying around, but unfortunately my current 18 watt charger is the only one of that caliber...bummer. Guess I’ll be buying the 20w block.
Keep in mind that when I posted this quote originally, it's a google translate of a French text so I would not rely too much on the words
In any case, here is another source that basically says the same.Exactly. The 5w chargers are useless for the pro devices. Takes hours. No thanks.
do you realize how many space they gonna save when shipping the phones through containers? 1 cargo container could fit 3-4 times more iphones If they make the box thinner without charger and earpods, and they even save a lot of paper. That’s where the money at. We’re talking apple here. $1 cost saved means $60-80M gets into apple’s pocket.
Of course they won't.
It will be "Our design team has created a magical new form factor for this product, and we think you'll love it."
