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Yeah but you have to imagine that the leather is going to go for more than $55 USD. ***** getting way to expensive since none of these case makers (including apple) are leather experts and are providing mediocre products at best. I will say it again, give me shell cordovan!
Shell cordovan isn't leather though.
 
I really don’t think their cases are ever sold at that price.
Considering they sell $50 1-pack screen protectors (lol), it will be at least $55. I'm expecting $90 like Bullstrap, which is way out of my price range. Even Apple didn't charge this much for their leather cases.
 
I turned to the most knowledgeable person I know when it comes to leather and what I assumed was some kind of finish/top coat might not be that.

The leathers I have felt and used that I feel is a replica of the old apple leather cases actually have minimal finishing. So what is it then?

It is vegetable tanned leather where the leather has been fed certain oils during the very long tanning process which ends up saturating the leather. This creates a natural water resistance as well as a slower patina process, because it absorbs less of the oils from your hand and absorbs it slower. It ain't a thirsty leather that goes SLUUURP as soon as you touch it. Chrome tanned leather cannot be this way, the tanning process is way different and way way faster.

There can of course be vegetable tanned leather that has not been saturated, I have shoes in such leather (usually called crust leather, that is delivered uncoloured/offwhite and dyed later), so it ain't just about the tanning process but more so what goes on during the tanning.
 
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Anyone else get the Ryan London case? I'm finding the lock/Siri button to be pretty stiff and hard to press and wondering if others are experiencing the same thing.
 
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Anyone else get the Ryan London case? I'm finding the lock/Siri button to be pretty stiff and hard to press and wondering if others are experiencing the same thing.
It’s not uncommon for buttons to be stiff on a new leather case. They typically soften pretty quickly. Some people find taking the case off and giving the buttons a few presses before reinstalling helps. Just don’t push too hard if you do this.
 
this is my current everyday carry. Horween leather watch strap as well as Journey Leather case.
 

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Huh? As far as I know, it's horse leather. Beautiful, beautiful material either way. The patina on it is unmatched on all the SLG I have.
Cordovan is a muscle/membrane from the horses ass. Many call it leather, but it’s actually not the skin at all.
 
Anyone else get the Ryan London case? I'm finding the lock/Siri button to be pretty stiff and hard to press and wondering if others are experiencing the same thing.
Wish I could tell you but my package has gotten stuck somewhere, not been any tracking change for 4 days.
 
Cordovan is a muscle/membrane from the horses ass. Many call it leather, but it’s actually not the skin at all.
Hmm I think I disagree. I would still call it leather. I know some others who consider it leather too. But I digress. It would make a great case material either way.
 
Hmm I think I disagree. I would still call it leather. I know some others who consider it leather too. But I digress. It would make a great case material either way.
Yeah it’s fine, most call it leather. It’s more of a fun fact that it’s actually an ass muscle.

In terms of smoothness and durability it would indeed be a great case material, but it would be rather slippery and it would be very expensive. Cordovan is much more expensive than regular full grain leather. Imagine Bullstrap doing Cordovan, we’d be looking at a base price of $120+ easily.
 
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I turned to the most knowledgeable person I know when it comes to leather and what I assumed was some kind of finish/top coat might not be that.

The leathers I have felt and used that I feel is a replica of the old apple leather cases actually have minimal finishing. So what is it then?

It is vegetable tanned leather where the leather has been fed certain oils during the very long tanning process which ends up saturating the leather. This creates a natural water resistance as well as a slower patina process, because it absorbs less of the oils from your hand and absorbs it slower. It ain't a thirsty leather that goes SLUUURP as soon as you touch it. Chrome tanned leather cannot be this way, the tanning process is way different and way way faster.

There can of course be vegetable tanned leather that has not been saturated, I have shoes in such leather (usually called crust leather, that is delivered uncoloured/offwhite and dyed later), so it ain't just about the tanning process but more so what goes on during the tanning.

I don’t think any case manufacturers want to take this kind of time to tan. I think it’s all about mass production, and getting the cases out as fast as possible.
 

Just a little clarification about the prices displayed on the product grids on our website. So there was a small issue where the “compared at” price consists of one case + one screen protector without the bundle pricing.

In essence it was showing the price of one case vs case + screen protector.

We’ve since fixed the issue to avoid any confusion about sale vs actual price.
 
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I don’t think any case manufacturers want to take this kind of time to tan. I think it’s all about mass production, and getting the cases out as fast as possible.
The companies selling the cases are not the tanneries. The companies simply have to choose to buy that kind of leather. Most likely more expensive, but I would absolutely pay the added cost because I’d get exactly what I want.
 
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The companies selling the cases are not the tanneries. The companies simply have to choose to buy that kind of leather. Most likely more expensive, but I would absolutely pay the added cost because I’d get exactly what I want.

Oh yeah me too, but they don’t want to pay. Clearly thought Apple wasn’t having issues getting that leather until they stopped using it after the 11s. Do we think they were selling the cases at a lost? I highly doubt it, but those cases were really good.
 
Oh yeah me too, but they don’t want to pay. Clearly thought Apple wasn’t having issues getting that leather until they stopped using it after the 11s. Do we think they were selling the cases at a lost? I highly doubt it, but those cases were really good.
Apple selling at a loss? Good one.

Nah, more likely to do with supply being too low to be able to fully meet the needs. Wouldn’t be the first time Apple changed a product due to this.
 
Apple selling at a loss? Good one.

Nah, more likely to do with supply being too low to be able to fully meet the needs. Wouldn’t be the first time Apple changed a product due to this.

It was a joke lol.

But how did they keep the case cheaper if they were using that quality of leather?
 
It was a joke lol.

But how did they keep the case cheaper if they were using that quality of leather?
I’m not completely sure they did use that quality of leather, but it is a possibility. I’m sure Apple can negotiate very good prices due to ordering massive amounts. But problem is most tanneries are small so they probably had to order from multiple at the same time, like they did with the iPhone screen when Samsung has issues meeting the required amount. Don’t think Apple likes doing that, they want one partner to fill the entire quota.
 
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Yeah it’s fine, most call it leather. It’s more of a fun fact that it’s actually an ass muscle.

In terms of smoothness and durability it would indeed be a great case material, but it would be rather slippery and it would be very expensive. Cordovan is much more expensive than regular full grain leather. Imagine Bullstrap doing Cordovan, we’d be looking at a base price of $120+ easily.
Haha, I would never buy from BS but that’s another matter.

Yeah it would be pretty slippery at first, but my wallet is actually super grippy now. Not sure if it’s because it’s Japanese Shinki or what, but it’s developing grip better than other Shell products I’ve handled. It has remarkable healing properties too.
 
I’m not completely sure they did use that quality of leather, but it is a possibility. I’m sure Apple can negotiate very good prices due to ordering massive amounts. But problem is most tanneries are small so they probably had to order from multiple at the same time, like they did with the iPhone screen when Samsung has issues meeting the required amount. Don’t think Apple likes doing that, they want one partner to fill the entire quota.

100% agree. They want it uniformed, so if they did go with multiple tanneries, they did something to make them uniform. I think @Bare Cases might have been on to something saying they made them really thin. That would make them all uniform to an extent.

I truly believe they didn’t change the leather, but the coating they put on top. I think they heavily treated it with protection to keep the new look as long as possible. Clearly it’s leather and can’t stay like that forever, so it doesn’t age well at all. But it was all in the name of uniformity.
 
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Anyone else get the Ryan London case? I'm finding the lock/Siri button to be pretty stiff and hard to press and wondering if others are experiencing the same thing.
Mine came a little stiff too. Yet the volume button etc are nice and clicky.
 
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