Yes! Never made sense to me the leather but then use plastics that will never breakdown. It’s a topic for another another place, but it’s the same as electric cars.
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Yeah the environment thing makes no sense. It’s more likely that they were able to cut production costs significantly by going to finewoven instead of leather and they used the environmental stuff as an excuse. I just know they won’t double back and bring out real leather cases again but they have to come up with something better than finewoven, especially at the $60 price point.
They will have to come up with some alternative to fine woven / leather. If they don't and just scrap them what will they make the wallet out of? No one on earth is going to buy a silicone magsafe wallet. Vegan leather is not a viable solution either as its a bit of an environmental disaster itself. Apart from "saving animals" the chemicals and plastics in vegan leather are actually pretty bad for the environment.
Leather is the logical solution.
Agree with both of you. What’s wild is the 12-14 series Apple leather cases weren’t great leather, here we are still talking about how they need them back.
I think leather like you said @DR3MCLAREN is the only logical solution, but I don’t think Apple will admit they were wrong. I bet they try something like the cloth cases the pixels did several years ago.
Crazy thing to all of this. Clearly the profits are to be had in leather. The demand for them are wild. Just ask Bullstrap, Andar, and Ryan London. But the real winner is Luckycoin. It’s so clear the margins are there too. If LC is selling at $30 for what they offer and the same quality is to be had as Bullstrap and RL, Apple selling quality leather at $60 is a massive margin exactly where Apple wants to be. Maybe what they lost in FW will open their eyes. Apple making a leather case again immediately gets them hundreds of thousands if not more of sales. There is simply nothing like the fit and thinness.
They absolutely were... but they were still better than Fine woven and still sold really well. There are a lot of people out there who won't use anything but the apple leather case. If Luckycoin can make a great quality leather case and sell it for $30 then Apple can certainly make a high quality case within acceptable profit margins. Somewhere in the Apple campus there has to be someone who has the data showing leather was profitable and not any worse for the environment than the fine woven. That person just needs the balls to stand up to the board and show them. If there is enough money to make Apple will find the "reasons to justify" why leather is more environmental than fine woven.
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That’s not exactly accurate. They weren’t great quality leather, but they weren’t rubbish. And also what does premium mean? BS cases are $90 these days, $60 seems like a bargain.
Yes! The numbers have to be there. They stopped production of FW that has to be a huge hit on profits. Also the environment bs, how much of the environment hit did they have for the waste they had removing all the leather from stores? If the reports from employees were true they were just throwing all the stock in the dumpster, that’s tons of waste. They have done more harm to the environment in 1 year than they did probably in the entire life span of the leather cases.
There is no way that Apple will back track on leather after what they said about it a year ago. They will have to move on to something new. Like others said, the leather was garbage the last couple of years. I think the LC case is a superior product at half the price. I can’t believe how well this thing is aging.
I don’t think the leather was total garbage because people on Reddit that put forced patina on them actually looked quite good. It was the coating on the leather that was terrible. The funny thing is a see forced patina on some BS, LC, and RL on Reddit.
Enjoy the process on the LC, looking forward to seeing it. I am looking forward to where my BS goes.
You are not wrong about how nice these age. 2.5 weeks in and it gets more beautiful each day. Still believe this is the best 15 series option.
I don’t think they will either. But maybe they’ll venture into cactus leather? 🤔
So are most of you guys rocking the Pro models and not the pro max? I have a pro for personal use and a pro max for work of the 14 series. The leather cases from all the major players (Andar, BS) work just fine on the pro. They are thicker and a bit heavier than the Apple cases, but because the phone is smaller it works. I got a BS contemporary for my work phone several weeks ago, and I find it much more difficult to use. It makes the 14PM too heavy and the thickness of it just is too much for me. Maybe the 15s weighing less helps? Not sure, just the max isn’t comfortable to hold with the the thicker leather cases.
Yeah I think if I upgrade to the 16 it will just be the pro. The max with a case is just too big. Well a quality leather case that is.
My Bullstrap Terra is still looking and feeling great…
I've replaced 2 cases through them using their warranty form. One time I scuffed up my case pretty badly in a bicycle accident and the other time it was because the buttons were crooked and the cutouts were misaligned.
I tried to replace one last year through their warranty form. They made me jump through so many hoops. To the point I had to send photos and video of the damage along with a written explanation of how the damaged happened and why I felt they should replace it. I never received a replacement. A warranty they you brag about as part of the sales process should require an essay to make a claim. Their service and their warranty is BS. At least for me it was. It was my first and last BS case.
You just reminded me of when I received a Bullstrap case with a scratch on it and they told me to message them back in a week and see if it was still there lol. I don't mind if my case gets worn/scratched over time but I really didn't want, or expect, a $90 case to come with a scratch right out of the box.
When you're charging that much for a case I expect you to replace it, especially when you tout "two free replacements a year."
I don’t understand the hassle they give people for a warranty they claim is so amazing. I think it’s more of a way they try and justify their price, but then no intention of really following through unless they absolutely have to. Their CEO comes across as very fake too, so I don’t totally trust their warranty.
The only reason I have a BS is because it was on sale.
Just did a cosmetic replacement for my BS case in Slate that I recently dropped. No issues whatsoever; sent a few pics via the form, $8 for shipping, and the new one showed up at my door. Amazing how the old one has worn vs. the new one in the last ~10 months or so.
Since they launched the Terra option... so 3 months?