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Lenovo X1 Extreme

For those in the know, is the 4K screen fonts smaller over the 1080P screen? I was thinking about getting a 4K notebook computer this time around but if the fonts are smaller that would be difficult for my aging eyes. I was kind of concerned about 1080 screens not being that sharp.

Thank you in advance
 
BionicMan said:
My MBP i9 is dead silent till I max out the cpu on it for rendering. Now my XPS 15 spins up for no reason and gets loud at times on it's own.
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Where I work. We sometimes max our cpu when building our android or ios apps in our machines and I can tell u that everyone's macbook sounds like a jet engine.
 
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jrichards1408 said:
Where I work. We sometimes max our cpu when building our android or ios apps in our machines and I can tell u that everyone's macbook sounds like a jet engine.
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Okay. and most laptops will sound like a jet engine when you peg the cpu on doing intensive tasks. The MBP is not alone in this.
 
Never mind said:
For those in the know, is the 4K screen fonts smaller over the 1080P screen? I was thinking about getting a 4K notebook computer this time around but if the fonts are smaller that would be difficult for my aging eyes. I was kind of concerned about 1080 screens not being that sharp.

Thank you in advance
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Screen scaling is used to address the size of things when changing the DPI (resolution per area).

On 4K you might use 200% scaling to make all the elements the right size for viewing, while still being in 4K resolution. Some older apps might not scale well but pretty much anything modern or updated will.

Though in my experience, 1080p is sufficient resolution on a laptop and gives better battery life. However, going to 4K usually gets you a better display over (better color accuracy, etc).
 
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Altis said:
Screen scaling is used to address the size of things when changing the DPI (resolution per area).

On 4K you might use 200% scaling to make all the elements the right size for viewing, while still being in 4K resolution. Some older apps might not scale well but pretty much anything modern or updated will.

Though in my experience, 1080p is sufficient resolution on a laptop and gives better battery life. However, going to 4K usually gets you a better display over (better color accuracy, etc).
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Thank you for the response. I may just go with the 1080P but want to make sure it’s bright enough. Most of these notebooks are going with about 300 nits.
 
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For reference, I tested my X1 Yoga under direct sun light. I could see everything clearly. I did see some kind of rainbow coating on the screen. I think X1E also has such coating if I recall correctly.

X1 Yoga: 14" HDR WQHD (2560 x 1440) IPS anti-reflective anti-smudge multi-touch with Dolby Vision, 500 nits
 
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Looked seriously at the surface book 2, 13 and 15 inch model and now leaning heavily with the Lenovo X1 extreme. Surface book 2 has only DDR-3 instead of DDR-4 ram on the Lenovo, plus the battery issue (draining fast even when plugged in) and gaming with the surface book. Cost more and I will get more with the Lenovo over the surface book 2 with better up to date ports and specs.

Now waiting for a better deal. Missed out on Black Friday which would have been much lower in cost... you snooze you lose ;)

X1 Extreme 15.6 $ 2,572.00 with tax

CPU i7-8750H

DDR-4 16 Gb

256 Gb SSD

4K

4 yr warranty

1050 card

Intel Wifi


Package deal $ 2,657.00

CPU i7-8850H

DDR-4 16 Gb

512 Gb SSD

4K

4 yr warranty

1050 card

400 nits

Intel WiFi

Surface book 2. 15 inch will cost me roughly $3154 w/tax
 
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Never mind said:
Looked seriously at the surface book 2, 13 and 15 inch model and now leaning heavily with the Lenovo X1 extreme. Surface book 2 has only DDR-3 instead of DDR-4 ram on the Lenovo, plus the battery issue (draining fast even when plugged in) and gaming with the surface book. Cost about the same and I will get more with the Lenovo over the surface book 2 with better up to date ports and specs.

X1 Extreme 15.6 $ 2,572.00

CPU i7-8750H

DDR-4 16 Gb

256 Gb SSD

4K

4 yr warranty

1050 card

Intel Wifi


Package deal $ 2,657.00

CPU i7-8850H

DDR-4 16 Gb

512 Gb SSD

4K

4 yr warranty

1050 card

400 nits

Intel WiFi
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Get the best cpu and screen you can afford and the rest you can upgrade manually by yourself
 
I am a bit confused. Some of you mentioned that MBP 15" is also loud. However, I have used two rMBP 15" 2012-2014 before and they were dead silent even I was doing CAD. When people mention that the MBP 15" is noisy or have fan noise, do they mean those thin ones with butterfly keyboard produced after 2015?
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jrichards1408 said:
Get the best cpu and screen you can afford and the rest you can upgrade manually by yourself
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Is it possible to change the LCD hinges to turn it into a X1 Extreme Yoga?
 
hajime said:
I am a bit confused. Some of you mentioned that MBP 15" is also loud. However, I have used two rMBP 15" 2012-2014 before and they were dead silent even I was doing CAD. When people mention that the MBP 15" is noisy or have fan noise, do they mean those thin ones with butterfly keyboard produced after 2015?
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Is it possible to change the LCD hinges to turn it into a X1 Extreme Yoga?
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Doubt it. The ram and hdd can be changed.
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Also my macbook 13 inch is noisy when under load but mostly quiet
 
The 2016 MBP I had would get pretty noisy when pushed, the 2018’s the same way. Once the fans get up above 4K RPM the noise starts to ramp up with use.

It can sound like the hand dryer in a restroom when it gets going hahaha

Edit: 13” are all dual core though vs 6-core? That could make a difference in heat/noise between the two sizes.
 
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Anybody here tried the new BIOS?

I ordered a X1E on Boxing Day but again it got delayed in shipment even it is in stock. Still waiting for it to come maybe on this Sunday or next Monday. But then there should be announcement/release of new Lenovo laptops (probably with RTX 20x0 GPU) at CES. Maybe they will be released in Feb/March. Given that I am building a desktop that I can use temporary, shall I just return the X1E without opening the box and hope Lenovo will release a new laptop with 15" 4K screen?

Sorry I posted my dilemma in the wrong forum:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ers-the-only-way-to-go.2162459/#post-26945669
 
hajime said:
Anybody here tried the new BIOS?

I ordered a X1E on Boxing Day but again it got delayed in shipment even it is in stock. Still waiting for it to come maybe on this Sunday or next Monday. But then there should be announcement/release of new Lenovo laptops (probably with RTX 20x0 GPU) at CES. Maybe they will be released in Feb/March. Given that I am building a desktop that I can use temporary, shall I just return the X1E without opening the box and hope Lenovo will release a new laptop with 15" 4K screen?

Sorry I posted my dilemma in the wrong forum:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ers-the-only-way-to-go.2162459/#post-26945669
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New Bios has been downloaded and it works. You should go over to the Lenovo X1 forum.

Edited: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/bd-p/tp02_en
 
Is it true that after the new BIOS 1.17 update to fix the bricking issue, now there is another video related issue?
 
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I had to cancel my purchase of the Lenovo X1 extreme because they just moved it back another couple weeks after doing that previously a few days ago, so I will be looking for what CES has to offer. I would like to have the X1 again but with a 1080p windows hello camera. Maybe even with a 3:2 screen.
 
Lenovo jumped the gun couple of days ago and included gtx 1160 (rtx 2060 without tensor/rx cores) as option on Legion Y530. This thing houses up to 1050Ti at the moment so it is a pretty safe bet the X1 extreme will get it also.
 
Thysanoptera said:
Lenovo jumped the gun couple of days ago and included gtx 1160 (rtx 2060 without tensor/rx cores) as option on Legion Y530. This thing houses up to 1050Ti at the moment so it is a pretty safe bet the X1 extreme will get it also.
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Yes, or the 20x0 cards. My question how is the thermal of these new cards compared with the 1050Ti Max-Q? If they generate more heat, then we expect noisy machine again.

Unless one wants to buy at a discount, is it better to wait for about a week to see how it goes? Is it true that things will get more expensive from Jan 1 due to the traiffs?
 
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Thysanoptera said:
Lenovo jumped the gun couple of days ago and included gtx 1160 (rtx 2060 without tensor/rx cores) as option on Legion Y530. This thing houses up to 1050Ti at the moment so it is a pretty safe bet the X1 extreme will get it also.
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Is that gpu good for playing video games?
 
It’s only a week to announcement and two weeks to release, we’ll see. What Nvidia published indicates that desktop 2060 is about 15-20% more power efficient than Pascals, but that’s still more than the high end ones, it should be even better when downscaled to mobile SKUs.

But I’m betting on higher TDP than the current ones, AMD closed the gap with Vega 20 to 1050ti, so something like 75W GPU with double the performance of the current 50W ones. I still have 75W 960m in XPS 15 and it is workable.
 
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